[OOC] From Stardust, To Stardust

[darkwolf687]

So, we have the Draconians going to war, S'Luk unleashing their ambitions upon New Condria and Chaos corrupting Faust. Why do I feel like this is the begining of the end for the EU...

[Apollo26]

Rome is Burning!

[WilsonTurner]

darkwolf687 said
So, we have the Draconians going to war, S'Luk unleashing their ambitions upon New Condria and Chaos corrupting Faust. Why do I feel like this is the begining of the end for the EU...

I'm targeting the Terrans for interfering rn.

EU comes later.

[WilsonTurner]

And an asteroid moving at 70% the speed of light is insanely releastic- the energy and equipment needed to MOVE it would be so costly it'd take months, years, of setting up and getting it ready, integrating FTL with the asteroid and all, setting up power systems to man it.

No, 20% would be more than you need, I think. It's a massive object- truly massive, bigger than we can really comprehend. Moving it that fast would probably destroy a planet, not incinerate it, but it'd totally destroy the surface of the world. That'd kill everything- no food. 20% or less is easily more realistic, and the sheer mass and size of it would make it next to impossible to just stop it. However, now that you've used it, people WILL make countermeasures. It better not be instant countermeasures, stuff that you've gotten set up in a matter of days to survive the next asteroid launch, but asteroids aren't easy to move- and moons are far bigger. So really, this moon is a one-hit kind of thing. Consider the tactic out-the-window because of the resources and time it'd need to get set up, and the careful planning. Then, Duck will be able to make countermeasures. If you just make another appear, he wouldn't be able to counter it, AT ALL

And I am SERIOUS DUCK
If you withstand an ASTEROID, not a moon, with that planetary shield, I don't give a crap how good it is, it's too powerful. The weight, the mass of it, combined with the effects of gravity as it enters high orbit, combined with the speed, will practically make it a missile too large to block, too heavy to stop. You shield WILL break- and if you let it pass through, you'll commit genocide against all who live on the surface. If you DO go op, and the planetary shield stops it, then the resulting debris being sucked in by gravity, sitting on that shield, will collapse it anyways- too much force, too much weight, spread out across it, for too long, and it'll break.

You're screwed. But that's really over-the-top with the speed, Darkwolf.

And I say this now to prevent further lengthy arguments.

[Keyguyperson]

70% of light speed would tear apart the system in a chain reaction caused by the planet itself turning into plasma.

[ASTA]

In this universe, an asteroid traveling at 70 percent of c can be defeated by placing a swarm of objects in its immediate trajectory; at those velocities, any object swarm will do--such as old iron ball bearings or worn out sneakers. FTL drives and FTL sensors would ensure that the defender would have a sizable amount of time to react in kind.

If Darkwolf just teleported a random [moon-sized] space rock out of nowhere and 'somehow' increased its velocity to 70 percent of c within one post, I'm calling utter bullshit on that.

[TwistedSun]

Why do I feel dis izn't a good moment for entering the galactic scenery :/ ? Iz it the sprawling anarchy, or are the flying asteroids at fault?

[ASTA]

TwistedSun said
Why do I feel dis izn't a good moment for entering the galactic scenery :/ ? Iz it the sprawling anarchy, or are the flying asteroids at fault?

It's mostly the dick-waving, the OOC arguments, Wilson's grude against Duck, Duck's powerplaying, and the 1-UPing that makes the RP so unattractive to new players.

The Rageconians and Darkwolf's Death Moon are the icing on the cake.

[WilsonTurner]

TwistedSun said
Why do I feel dis izn't a good moment for entering the galactic scenery :/ ? Iz it the sprawling anarchy, or are the flying asteroids at fault?

Valkian, Nouvellian, and Septonian space is currently peaceful.

I'm about to finish half my next post, which is going to be a skirmish between the Valkians and the Draconians. It will prove both that the Draconians can be beaten, and that the Valkians are not invincible.

[WilsonTurner]

ASTA said
It's mostly the dick-waving, the OOC arguments, Wilson's grude against Duck, Duck's powerplaying, and the 1-UPing that makes the RP so unattractive to new players.The Rageconians and Darkwolf's Death Moon are the icing on the cake.

[null123]

Even 20% of the Speed of Light is unrealistic for a almost Earth-Sized Moon.

At this point Darkwolf's just godmodding to capture New Condia... a irrelevant planet with only a few million colonists and some farms.

[Apollo26]

On a lighter note.....are the Terrans ready to party like its......3195!!

[Keyguyperson]

Apollo26 said
On a lighter note.....are the Terrans ready to party like its......3195!!

The Council will have to take a vote on that, then we'll need a referendum, then of course it'll have to go through the President and Council twice before everyone in the military has to unanimously agree for or against the bill. Then we'll hold a triumvirate with the leaders of the three military branches, before having a party to celebrate the decision in which a consensus must be reached on what food to serve.

[Apollo26]

Or....you could just eat our food, drink our wine and not tell anybody...

[WilsonTurner]

duck55223 said
Even 20% of the Speed of Light is unrealistic for a almost Earth-Sized Moon.At this point Darkwolf's just godmodding to capture New Condia... a irrelevant planet with only a few million colonists and some farms.

Says the one bring in two of their own fleets, three allied fleets, and a single massive-ass neutral fleet for backup.

[WilsonTurner]

Keyguyperson said
The Council will have to take a vote on that, then we'll need a referendum, then of course it'll have to go through the President and Council twice before everyone in the military has to unanimously agree for or against the bill. Then we'll hold a triumvirate with the leaders of the three military branches, before having a party to celebrate the decision in which a consensus must be reached on what food to serve.

You left out the turtle races...

You know, one side brings in a turtle for agreeing with having Vegan-only food, and the other side brings in a turtle for agreeing with no Vegan food...

[Abefroeman]

I am going off of my experience with playing planetary annihilation, but, moving celestial objects is just a matter of setting up the massive engines required to move it. I think FTL for these is sheer crazyness, if not impossible. But, attaching ship engines onto an asteroid and just programming it to fly on a set course doesn't seem out of the picture. It would look to be mainly a single system weapon, on able to attack targets within the same gravity well of the local sun. But, yes, defenses could be set up, but, even if you did manage to break up the comet/asteroid it would still rain down smaller fragments. Just a thought.

[ASTA]

Abefroeman said
I am going off of my experience with playing planetary annihilation, but, moving celestial objects is just a matter of setting up the massive engines required to move it. I think FTL for these is sheer crazyness, if not impossible. But, attaching ship engines onto an asteroid and just programming it to fly on a set course doesn't seem out of the picture. It would look to be mainly a single system weapon, on able to attack targets within the same gravity well of the local sun. But, yes, defenses could be set up, but, even if you did manage to break up the comet/asteroid it would still rain down smaller fragments. Just a thought.

But accelerating an object to 70 percent of c doesn't happen instantly. However long it takes to get your rock up to ramming speed is time the defender can use to prep and intercept said rock.

[null123]

Plus the object he is moving is just a tinsy bit smaller then Earth's moon. I don't need to say how ridiculous it is to get the energy needed to move a object like that at 70% light speed. Not even magic can do that.

And the system in which New Condia is in has 5 planets, only one has a moon and thats half the size of Earth's moon.

[WilsonTurner]

Abefroeman said
I am going off of my experience with playing planetary annihilation, but, moving celestial objects is just a matter of setting up the massive engines required to move it. I think FTL for these is sheer crazyness, if not impossible. But, attaching ship engines onto an asteroid and just programming it to fly on a set course doesn't seem out of the picture. It would look to be mainly a single system weapon, on able to attack targets within the same gravity well of the local sun. But, yes, defenses could be set up, but, even if you did manage to break up the comet/asteroid it would still rain down smaller fragments. Just a thought.

My idea of accelerating a giant object is gravity. If you can manipulate gravity, you could just make the asteroid 'fall' towards wherever you want it.

The use of engines on an asteroid, even FTL or sublight drives, would require insane amounts of fuel to power up, keep powered up, and continue to keep powered up, including constant maintenance due to the stress of moving such a large, solid object.