Death of a great man

[VATROU]

In truth there's nothing wrong with any ruling system. It's often those pulling the strings that make it wrong. As the saying goes. Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[Vortex]

Holy shit dude, calm down!

The question is what system spreads the power the most?

And perhaps more importantly what the leaders policies are

[VATROU]

Having problem posting at the moment. It seems really bad.

[Revans Exile]

Vortex said What the hell is Kool Aid?

Google, Wikipedia, etc. Look it up.

Vortex said Now, whats so bad about Communism?

If you have to ask you are beyond help.

[Vortex]

Ah, I see

It is a genuine question. Many people have different political ideologies that can be on all side of the spectrum (which is quite literally the case for the "Third Postionists"). So would you like to explain this to me or would you like to dodge the question again?

[Revans Exile]

Vortex said
Ah, I seeIt is a genuine question. Many people have different political ideologies that can be on all side of the spectrum (which is quite literally the case for the "Third Postionists"). So would you like to explain this to me or would you like to dodge the question again?

They are wishy washy bastards who are trying to please everyone and to stupid/naive to know they can't or so arrogant that they believe they can do the impossible. They are twice as useless and three times as dumb.

If you can't pick one side or the other then you are a nobody in a nothing party.

[Vortex]

Sounds like your describing populists or Third Positionists (as I said they have policies from all over the place) not Communists who dont give a flying fuck about the bourgoese or the capitalists and their system and care solely for the working class and the common man.

Unless of course, you would like to dispute this with some evidence?

[Revans Exile]

Lost interest. Don't care. Goodbye.

[Vortex]

Checkmate

[Vortex]

Today was Whitlams Funeral.

I recommend if you happen to actually care about this matter you look at the details below
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/gough-whitlam-memorial-thousands-honour-australias-21st-prime-minister/story-fni0cx12-1227113045622?nk=28b22492af9dd1dd00e2f3abf204bbfc

[Balena_Rex]

Just a few things.
- Removed the death penalty: Bad, its better then life in prison
- One of, if not the first, western leaders to recognise Communist China: How is this good, communism is horrible.
- Denounced America for dropping bombs onto Civilian areas: It was a war, everyone did it, including the UK.
- The first left leaning leader after a total of 23 years of right wing rule, most likely thanks to his reforming of the Labour Party's structure and elective system: Horrible, he seems like a commy.

[Vortex]

Balena_Rex said
Just a few things.- Removed the death penalty: Bad, its better then life in prison- One of, if not the first, western leaders to recognise Communist China: How is this good, communism is horrible.- Denounced America for dropping bombs onto Civilian areas: It was a war, everyone did it, including the UK.- The first left leaning leader after a total of 23 years of right wing rule, most likely thanks to his reforming of the Labour Party's structure and elective system: Horrible, he seems like a commy.

Lets counter that shall we? Lets go
- Perhaps for you but it may not be for others. In any case it is besides the point its a punishment and not supposed to be fun
- Two things. The first being just because you dont like a ideology doesnt mean that the country doesnt exist. The second, could you clarify as to why Communism is so horrible? Can you do better than Revans Exile?
- Just because everyone is doing it doesnt mean its the right thing to do, and these people were not even soldiers who you would expect to die in war, no these were normal people trying to live a regular life
- Uh... You do realise that not every Left Leaning person is a commie right? And you do realise that because of his left leaning policies he granted eqaul rights to every Australian no matter their race, creed or gender and that if he was not elected then people would be living in eqaulity for even longer?

[Balena_Rex]

Vortex said
Lets counter that shall we? Lets go- Perhaps for you but it may not be for others. In any case it is besides the point its a punishment and not supposed to be fun- Two things. The first being just because you dont like a ideology doesnt mean that the country doesnt exist. The second, could you clarify as to why Communism is so horrible? Can you do better than Revans Exile?- Just because everyone is doing it doesnt mean its the right thing to do, and these people were not even soldiers who you would expect to die in war, no these were normal people trying to live a regular life- Uh... You do realise that not every Left Leaning person is a commie right? And you do realise that because of his left leaning policies he granted eqaul rights to every Australian no matter their race, creed or gender and that if he was not elected then people would be living in eqaulity for even longer?

I shall counter your counter.
-You know the whole no cruel and unusual punishment thing, life in prison is cruel and unusual.
-Now I admit, on paper communism seems good, but China changed it so much that its horrible.
-Never said its right, I admit they where Innocent but still, I personally dont see it as a good thing as just insulting the us doesn't seem equal. Which leads me to my next thing.
-Now I know that, and its good he gave equality. But at least in America (Idk about Australia) but the left wingers are typically horrible.

Also I wish death on no one, and the other things he did seem great (Such as equality for Aboriginals and Women, and I wish the USA would do it to natives) but these are just some things I saw. May the man rest in piece though, as it seems he did do great things.

[Vortex]

Balena_Rex said
I shall counter your counter.-You know the whole no cruel and unusual punishment thing, life in prison is cruel and unusual. -Now I admit, on paper communism seems good, but China changed it so much that its horrible.-Never said its right, I admit they where Innocent but still, I personally dont see it as a good thing as just insulting the us doesn't seem equal. Which leads me to my next thing.-Now I know that, and its good he gave equality. But at least in America (Idk about Australia) but the left wingers are typically horrible.Also I wish death on no one, and the other things he did seem great (Such as equality for Aboriginals and Women, and I wish the USA would do it to natives) but these are just some things I saw. May the man rest in piece though, as it seems he did do great things.

And I shall counter your counter of my counter!
- What? Im sorry but I cant make sense of this sentence
- Before Communism, China was a Authoritarian society that had been split between warlords for the past decade and before that was ruled by Equally Authoritarian Monarchy. Not only that but they were mainly a Agrarian society with little to no industry and instead relied on giant plantations, often owned by large foreign companies. After the Revolution China managed to industrialise itself in a span of a few short years (short in comparison to how long it would have taken Capitalism) after of course many purges by the Authoritarian regime that China had become. What you must understand however is that that form of Communism is a warped and corrupted version of Marxism, and carved to fulfil not the peoples needs but one mans desires.
- By denouncing the US Whitlam made a stand for Human rights. Something that leaders would never be so brave to do these days, and not just involving Human Rights Issues but in general.
- Pfft. Your Lefties are a bunch of watered down populist softcocks who use pandering methods even if it goes against Socialism, or even Libertarianism for that matter.