[OOC] Million Exploding Suns Spectacle - Space Battle RPG

[WilsonTurner]

Cirruses look to be relatively cheap.

:3

There will be times when all I have is a tiny fleet, a bunch of cargoships, and an unusually high number of Cirruses. I won't use all my points- likely the majority of my points would be sent to whoever is accompanying me, or not spent at all. A small fleet can hide out-of-the way...

while the rest of the ships might as well be called Loki....

[TheUnknowable]

My ships are so cheap. Except for my Defense Carrier. Yep, it's a boss.

[Willy Vereb]

Well, I'm still waiting for evaluation of my own ships.

Until then I should announce the first battle!

Second Dominion War
Opening Battle

After 20 years of peace under the ceasefire agreement in SA2018 a new war is about to break out. Wishing to finish what they had once began the Dominion launches a surprise attack through the neutral zone. Using meticulous use of intelligence and planning they launch a rapid strike against the FPA borders. But first they had to blast their way through the mine field...

Basically this is an open space battle with a certain spin. The Dominion must assault a fortified FPA territory. First line of efense is FTL jammers and a mine field. Dominion has intelligence report on the location of most mines thus they can clear it away efficiently though they still need to be careful otherwise they alarm the FPA forces too soon. Next stage is the various space bases and other fortification in the area, reinforced by the FPA players' fleet. FPA has the advantage in direct combat but their position is known and the enemy has the initiative. Thus the scales balance out.

Battle Points Per Player: 20,000
Use this well.

Fleet Profile Guide

Fleet Name
Faction of the Fleet

Description

Tell us a few things you wish to share about the fleet. You can mention the fleet's purpose,style, history or even detail the fleet commander. Anything you want.

Fleet Composition

You can list your various ships here, their equipment (if there's something which can be unique, like 2 ships armed with laser cannons while others using railguns) or even give names to your ships.
Especially true for flagships or other important vessels. give them a name, add a layer of personality to them for just fun.

[WilsonTurner]

Wait! I need my carrier for this. It's just about finished- lemme add it in. You willing to 'grade' it right now, Willy?

[Durandal]

@Willy Vereb

Oh yeah, you forgot to grade the Orthog gunship. Just thought I'd mention that so it isn't left in limbo.

[Willy Vereb]

@Willy Vereb

Oh yeah, you forgot to grade the Orthog gunship. Just thought I'd mention that so it isn't left in limbo.

@Durandal

I did rate it.
Its weapons aren't too powerful IMO so I sai you can have as many as your ship hangars can hold.

[WilsonTurner]

You gonna rate my carrier?

[Willy Vereb]

I'm gonna rate ships I forgot before.
Not today, though.

On the other hand I post the point cost of my ships.
Link to my profile:
http://www.roleplayerguild.com/topics/78190-million-exploding-suns-spectacle-space-battle-rpg/char#post-2488941

Broadsword Battlecruiser: 2500 battle points

Dagger Stealth Frigate: 800 battle points

Gladius Destroyer -
Base: 225 battle points
Change repeaters to fixed 165mm annihilator cannon : +25 points
Add Hypervelocity missiles: +50 point
Add Nukes instead: +100 point
Maximum: 350 battle points

Sickle Escort-
Base: 50 battle points
Hypervelocity missiles: +25 points
Nukes instead of hypervel. missiles: +50 points
Max cost: 100 battle points

Courtesy to my friend to mak the judgement instead of me.
Still, if you don't like these points I'm open to discussion.

[WilsonTurner]

Can't make my fleet. My Warcruiser, Battlecruiser, and Battlecarrier have yet to be assigned points, and the cruisers are to make up the majority of my fleet.

[Willy Vereb]

Can't make my fleet. My Warcruiser, Battlecruiser, and Battlecarrier have yet to be assigned points, and the cruisers are to make up the majority of my fleet.

@WilsonTurner

Right on it.

The Hocklyn Slaver Empire

Stellar Dominion

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Spacecraft Overview
Ugh this is going to take forever

Cirrus Class - Lightship - Espoinage/Hit'n'run Attack Corvette

Name: Commonly known as the "Sneaky Bastard," but officially known as the Cirrus-class Lightship.
Dimensions: 250m length, 100m from center of mass to farthest reach point [width]
Crew: 13
Battle Points: Unassigned

Spacecraft Attributes

• Hull: 15 (most of it structural, very little to no armor at all, besides the stuff used against micrometeors and the like)
• Powerplant: 95
• Shields: 60/30/10 (Not firing and no stealth/ while steathy/ while firing)
• Speed: 90
• Maneuverability: 90
• Sensors: 70

Weapons

Main Gun {Crippler ALS}
Count: 1
Power: 85
Description: Very high energy weapon, which uses any and all energy within whatever powers it to fire a devastating beam for a moment against any shield or hull- heavy damage to either, and is usually capable of taking down any shield save for the most powerful, and is likely to be the death of any ship out there.

Point-Defenses {Shield Pulsar}
Count: ~
Power: 11
Description: Boosts the shield of the ship to both protect the ship, and pulse waves of energy off of it, enough to scramble missiles, or disrupt energy bursts like plasma. Does not work with stealth enabled.

Other/Special
Two FTL drives are present- one is an emergency escape drive that is at the very rear of the central body, and it has its own separate batteries that allow it a short three-lightyear jump into Deep Space, in which it takes multiple hours for it to cool down and allow the ship to enter hyperspace again. The second is your regular, standard 15-lightyear average FTL jumper drive.

It's a lightship- the ship is primarily equipment and devices, most of it relating to electronic warfare, surveillance, or stealth. The majority of that equipment is dedicated to making the ship invisible- both on radar, sensors, everything. You can't even look out your window and see it, it's so sneaky.

Take a HALO Spartan, give him a Spartan Laser with infinite shots but a three-hour cooldown, and instead of armor he's just covered in sensors and cloaking devices and batteries and small reactors and all that, and you get the equivalent of a Cirrus-class Lightship.

The Crippler ALS is likely to tear a hole in anything more than a light or medium cruiser. But then again, just about anything could kill a Cirrus- even fighters. Fighters are likely to be the big anti-lightship, since if they have sufficient sensors, they could detect the small residue left from a Cirrus engine/reactor, and then hunt them down like a bunch of beagles on the scent of a sentient, two-legged doughnut in a cluttered, messy warehouse.

General Description
Light glistens dully against its sleek, shiny titanium-alloy half-hull, small spots marring the perfect plane of reflection, as a light blue glow shines lightly from the three hose-covered, unprotected, dirty engines that sit on the ends of gleaming, slender wings, that seem like even a small jerk would break them, while-
OknothisisridiculouslolXD
YOU HAVE A PICTURE. Imagine it buzzing about a big ship and blasting holes into it, and when you fire it disappears and appears outside the solarsystem!

Monarch Class - Dreadnought - War Command Heavy Cruiser

Name: Monarch-class Dreadnought
Dimensions: 1500m length, 400m width, 250m height
Crew: 5,600
Battle Points: Unassigned

Spacecraft Attributes

• Hull: 95
• Powerplant: 80
• Shields: 60
• Speed: 20
• Maneuverability: 20
• Sensors: 50

Weapons

Main Gun {Plasma Charge}
Count: 1
Power: 65/45/25/5 (based on range, with the power being danger close/ really close/ somewhat close/ medium ish range, a bit under medium.)
Description: A containment field in the very front of the ship begins receiving large amounts of plasma. When within a close enough range to an enemy ship that's within a certain cone in front of the Dreadnought, the Dreadnought can release the burst of plasma as a very powerful blast that decays very quickly. It's used more of a ship-to-ship plasma shotgun, and can be worked against them because an EMP can disrupt the field and destroy the forward hull.

Secondary Gun {HG Turrets}
Count: 80
Power: 10
Description: HG, or Heavy Gun, was the next step up from railgun turrets. While railgun turrets are still used, HG are the bigger brother for them and are easily more powerful. Using a single large barrel on a large base, they fire meter-in-diameter shells at velocities rivaling a railgun, to deliver a powerful blast with every hit. Compared to any high-power missile or gun, it's still weak, but it's much more powerful than your basic railguns or MACs, when taking size into proportion.

Tertiary {Missiles of Variety}
Count: (Devastator 2) 16
Count: (Devastator 1) 32
Count: (Nuclear- Tactical) 64
Count: (Nuclear- WMD) 64
Count: (Shrike- S2S) 256
Count: (Missile Silo) 128

Power: (Devastator 2) 57
Power: (Devastator 1) 52
Power: (Nuclear- Tactical) 45
Power: (Nuclear- WMD) 50
Power: (Shrike- S2S) 35

Description: Tactical Nuclear missiles are the kind that are used against precise targets, such as a town, army, or military base, while WMDs are used on cities, warships, etc. Devastators are sublight-capable missiles.

Point-Defenses {Railgun Turret}
Count: 160
Power: 5
Description: Simple double-barreled rail turrets, firing 100mm HEBC (High-explosive Ballistic-capped) rounds to intercept fighters, missiles, or mines. Works best against soft-medium targets. (Meaning, something small with some amount of armor)

Point-Defenses {Missile Turret}
Count: 100
Power: 10
Description: Simple missile turrets that fire bursts of Swarmer missiles that work on a hivemind network to intercept and destroy incoming fighters, missiles, or mines. Works best against soft-light targets. (Meaning, something small without much armor)

Other/Special
Center of communications and command- Dreadnoughts are the flagships of the fleet and is at the top of the command chain. Disrespecting a Dreadnought's Admiral is likely to receive "The Command Chain is the chain I'm going to beat you with" line.

Each Dreadnought is in command of a fleet, or if there are multiple Dreadnoughts, are likely in command of multiple Battle Groups within the fleet. Dreadnoughts are one thing that are not set-in-stone for each fleet- there can be no Dreadnought, or half a dozen.

Oftentimes, a Dreadnought is usually the sign that the battle is being taken very seriously.

They also have weapons specifically for ground bombardment, including their missiles.

General Description
It's big, it's flat, and it's hard to kill.

Striker Class - Light Cruiser - Electronic Warfare/Orbital Support Ship

Name: Striker-class Light Cruiser
Dimensions: 700m length, 300m width, 150m height
Crew: 5,600
Battle Points: Unassigned

Spacecraft Attributes

• Hull: 30
• Powerplant: 30
• Shields: 30
• Speed: 40
• Maneuverability: 30
• Sensors: 60

Weapons

Main Gun {HG Turrets}
Count: 12
Power: 10
Description: HG, or Heavy Gun, was the next step up from railgun turrets. While railgun turrets are still used, HG are the bigger brother for them and are easily more powerful. Using a single large barrel on a large base, they fire meter-in-diameter shells at velocities rivaling a railgun, to deliver a powerful blast with every hit. Compared to any high-power missile or gun, it's still weak, but it's much more powerful than your basic railguns or MACs, when taking size into proportion.

Tertiary {Missiles of Variety}
Count: (Devastator 1) 16
Count: (Nuclear- Tactical) 64
Count: (Shrike- S2S) 128
Count: (Missile Silo) 32

Power: (Devastator 1) 52
Power: (Nuclear- Tactical) 45
Power: (Shrike- S2S) 35

Description: They're missiles. Devastators are the only sublight missiles.

Point-Defenses {Railgun Turret}
Count: 60
Power: 5
Description: Simple double-barreled rail turrets, firing 100mm HEBC (High-explosive Ballistic-capped) rounds to intercept fighters, missiles, or mines. Works best against soft-medium targets. (Meaning, something small with some amount of armor)

Point-Defenses {Missile Turret}
Count: 50
Power: 10
Description: Simple missile turrets that fire bursts of Swarmer missiles that work on a hivemind network to intercept and destroy incoming fighters, missiles, or mines. Works best against soft-light targets. (Meaning, something small without much armor)

Supportive Orbital Gun {SOG-MAC Type 36}
Count: 1
Power: 20
Description: A fairly straightforward, though complicated, design of a mass accelerator cannon. The MAC on this ship fires larger-than-normal slugs that burn up in the atmosphere- revealing a smaller slug that has a variety of advanced equipment inside to maximize damage output to the forefront of the warhead, and to minimize area-of-affect, or to maximize it, while in-flight, to automatically adjust to its target. It uses 'cilia' to change its course- strange advanced fibers that bristle down the sides of the shell, like thousands of tiny arms or legs. They act to shift the shape of the shell, so it can alter course against a moving target or to become more accurate. Devices inside the shell also give rough readings of the ground before impact, allowing the shell to be useful as both a bunker-buster, a [city] block-buster, at the same time giving better information on enemy and allied troop movements within a limited area. The weapon is not suited for space use- rather for medium/low orbit to surface.

Other/Special
Seeing this ship in an active battle is a pretty sure bet that the Hocklyns think they're going to win, and take whatever planet they're hoping for. It's armed with a MAC meant for extremely precise (bunker-buster kind of precise, where it can destroy a house in a neighborhood and prevent direct damage to any of the neighboring ones), but it's used only for orbital bombardment.

General Description
It's a logistics and support ship, meant to help keep ground units alive with a few fighters and bombers, and precise bombardment.

Known Fleets
TBA

Tokarev Class - Cruiser - Warcruiser

Name: Tokerav-class Warcruiser
Dimensions: 850m long, 250m wide, 260m high
Crew: 560
Battle Points: Unassigned

Spacecraft Attributes

• Hull: 60
• Powerplant: 75
• Shields: 75
• Speed: 35
• Maneuverability: 25
• Sensors: 55

Weapons

Main Gun {HG Turrets}
Count: 48
Power: 10
Description: HG, or Heavy Gun, was the next step up from railgun turrets. While railgun turrets are still used, HG are the bigger brother for them and are easily more powerful. Using a single large barrel on a large base, they fire meter-in-diameter shells at velocities rivaling a railgun, to deliver a powerful blast with every hit. Compared to any high-power missile or gun, it's still weak, but it's much more powerful than your basic railguns or MACs, when taking size into proportion.

Tertiary {Missiles of Variety}
Count: (Devastator 1) 128
Count: (Nuclear- Tactical) 32
Count: (Shrike- S2S) 256
Count: (Missile Silo) 64

Power: (Devastator 1) 52
Power: (Nuclear- Tactical) 45
Power: (Shrike- S2S) 35

Description: They're missiles. Devastators are the only sublight missiles.

Point-Defenses {Railgun Turret}
Count: 40
Power: 5
Description: Simple double-barreled rail turrets, firing 100mm HEBC (High-explosive Ballistic-capped) rounds to intercept fighters, missiles, or mines. Works best against soft-medium targets. (Meaning, something small with some amount of armor)

Point-Defenses {Missile Turret}
Count: 25
Power: 10
Description: Simple missile turrets that fire bursts of Swarmer missiles that work on a hive-mind network to intercept and destroy incoming fighters, missiles, or mines. Works best against soft-light targets. (Meaning, something small without much armor)

Special Weapon {Disrupter Cannon}
Count: 2
Power: 5 -> 45
Description: A weapon that relies on being fired against a ship consistently over a period of time, the weapon slowly gains strength to disrupt energy flow. On ships with shields, this’ll be a steady drain on the shields, allowing the strength to slowly leak out into the space surrounding, and on ships that are simply armored, it will decrease the effectiveness and response of all electrical devices. Being energy-intensive itself, the weapon often requires the majority of the ship’s weapons to be offline. Has a medium range. Oftentimes is the precedent to a boarding party.

Other/Special
Disrupter Cannon!

General Description
They’re less ‘special’ as the other ships, but these still aren’t likely to be the primary canon fodder. They’re likely to be the ships where Commodores command from, to lead strike groups.

Known Fleets
TBA

Guardsman Class - Light/Medium Cruiser - Battlecruiser

Name: Guardsman Class Battlecruiser
Dimensions: 750m long, 220m wide, 200m high
Crew: 500
Battle Points: Unassigned

Spacecraft Attributes

• Hull: 55
• Powerplant: 65
• Shields: 70
• Speed: 36
• Maneuverability: 22
• Sensors: 30

Weapons

Main Gun {HG Turrets}
Count: 56
Power: 10
Description: HG, or Heavy Gun, was the next step up from railgun turrets. While railgun turrets are still used, HG are the bigger brother for them and are easily more powerful. Using a single large barrel on a large base, they fire meter-in-diameter shells at velocities rivaling a railgun, to deliver a powerful blast with every hit. Compared to any high-power missile or gun, it's still weak, but it's much more powerful than your basic railguns or MACs, when taking size into proportion.

Tertiary {Missiles of Variety}
Count: (Devastator 1) 132
Count: (Nuclear- Tactical) 36
Count: (Shrike- S2S) 280
Count: (Missile Silo) 70

Power: (Devastator 1) 52
Power: (Nuclear- Tactical) 45
Power: (Shrike- S2S) 35
Description: They're missiles. Devastators are the only sublight missiles.

Point-Defenses {Railgun Turret}
Count: 100
Power: 5
Description: Simple double-barreled rail turrets, firing 100mm HEBC (High-explosive Ballistic-capped) rounds to intercept fighters, missiles, or mines. Works best against soft-medium targets. (Meaning, something small with some amount of armor)

Point-Defenses {Missile Turret}
Count: 10
Power: 10
Description: Simple missile turrets that fire bursts of Swarmer missiles that work on a hive-mind network to intercept and destroy incoming fighters, missiles, or mines. Works best against soft-light targets. (Meaning, something small without much armor)

Special Weapon {None}
Count: N/A
Power: N/A
Description: N/A

Other/Special
Ship is armed with shuttles and a larger contingent of Protectors for boarding and/or ground based operations. Shuttles are armed with penetrator rods which can be placed as mines, or be launched directly. Think of a spear in space- meant purely to penetrate, and open a hole the size of a softball to space, which means explosive decompression and that hole becoming very much bigger.

General Description
You have a picture

Known Fleets
TBA

Tyrant Class - Superheavy Cruiser - Battlecarrier

Name: Tyrant Class Battlecarrier
Dimensions: 1750m long, 720m wide, 450m high
Crew: 500
Battle Points: Unassigned

Spacecraft Attributes

• Hull: 40
• Powerplant: 85
• Shields: 75
• Speed: 20
• Maneuverability: 20
• Sensors: 70

Weapons

Main Gun {SHG Turrets}
Count: 4
Power: 40
Description: SHG Turrets, meaning SuperHeavy Turrets, are obviously HG turrets on steroids. Instead of a single high-RPM barrel, there’s two groups of five barrels arranged more similar to a chaingun. Each barrel is slightly smaller, but it has a firerate almost ten-times that of a regular HG turret.

Secondary Gun/Point Defense {HG Turrets-Modified}
Count: 16
Power: 10
Description: HG, or Heavy Gun, was the next step up from railgun turrets. While railgun turrets are still used, HG are the bigger brother for them and are easily more powerful. Using a single large barrel on a large base, they fire meter-in-diameter shells at velocities rivaling a railgun, to deliver a powerful blast with every hit. Compared to any high-power missile or gun, it's still weak, but it's much more powerful than your basic railguns or MACs, when taking size into proportion. Modifications to this weapon adds another directly underneath the primary barrel- a railgun- for point-defense use.

Tertiary {Missiles of Variety}
Count: (Devastator 1) 132
Count: (Nuclear- Tactical) 36
Count: (Shrike- S2S) 280
Count: (Missile Silo) 70

Power: (Devastator 1) 52
Power: (Nuclear- Tactical) 45
Power: (Shrike- S2S) 35
Description: They're missiles. Devastators are the only sublight missiles.

Point-Defenses {Railgun Turret}
Count: 160
Power: 5
Description: Simple double-barreled rail turrets, firing 100mm HEBC (High-explosive Ballistic-capped) rounds to intercept fighters, missiles, or mines. Works best against soft-medium targets. (Meaning, something small with some amount of armor)

Point-Defenses {Missile Turret}
Count: 40
Power: 10
Description: Simple missile turrets that fire bursts of Swarmer missiles that work on a hive-mind network to intercept and destroy incoming fighters, missiles, or mines. Works best against soft-light targets. (Meaning, something small without much armor)

Special Weapon {Fury-class Fighters}
Count: 400
Power: 13
Description: Simple fighters, armed with a weak forward shield and four 30mm cannons and 1 pulse laser. They can optionally be loaded with two light torpedoes for anti-corvette or anti-frigate use, at the cost of speed and maneuverability.

Special Weapon {Anlon-class bombers}
Count: 150
Power: 10-60 (Light torpedoes to D-3s)
Description: These are about twice the size of a fighter, with a more powerful shield that covers the forward-area, and to the bottom and top of the bomber. Two 16mm cannons are mounted on ballmounts on the left and ride sides, and 6x 30mm cannons, and the ability to carry ten light torpedoes, 6 medium, or 4 heavy. Alternatively, they can also carry thermonuclear warheads, ranging from 8 lower-yield, to 4 higher yield. A single bomber is capable of carrying, max, two Devastator 3 missiles, though the wake left behind from the sublight missiles will scramble and temporarily disable the bomber.

Other/Special
These ships are very likely to hard to kill- they’ll be surrounded by a fleet and they have a higher-than-average crew for the ships’ size. Damage control and in-combat repairs will be faster and more frequent, meaning that if you want to kill it, letting it escape any is not a good plan.

General Description
You have a picture

@WilsonTurner

Tokarev Warcruiser. ON one had it has respectable defenses, battleship-like level. On the other hand it really lacks in offensive power and it isn't really fast overall. I say 900 points apiece should suffice.
Tokarev Warcruiser - 900 points

Guardsman Cruisers are above average in protection and have even more missiles but that's about it. Their shields are going to be tough so it still worths circa 600 points.
Guardsman Cruiser - 600 points

Tyrant Battlecarriers are interesting. Technically they are on par with the Tokarevs but they also carry 150 bombers with up to 60 firepower weapons. To be honest I'd rate their cost based on exactly what kind of loadout they have. D3 bombs with 60 power are a serious threat when they can unleash up to 150 of these. Most point defenses are going to be in trouble against such numbers. Granted, you already have 50-130 count missile volleys on each of your ships but 150 high-speed bombers (especially since I suspect they have tactical FTL) are going to be trouble. Oh well, let's just assume all of them can be re-purposed to this role. Then the cost of one Battlecarrier would be around 1500.
Tyrant Battlecarrier - 1500 battle points (maximum)

[WilsonTurner]

Third Fleet Composition

Fleet Name
Third Fleet

Description
All odd-numbered fleets are offensive- all even-numbered fleets are defensive. As such, this is a primarily offensive fleet working for the purposes of the Stellar Dominion's offensive actions. Later, may be accompanied by Fifth Fleet and eventually First Fleet
Fleet Composition

x2 Dreadnoughts (4 000pt [2000 per])
- HRNS War Cry - Commanded by Rear Admiral Hethakt [Current Fleet Commander]
- HRNS War Storm - Commanded by Fleet Commodore Jerathk

x4 Cirrus Lightships (4 000pt [100 per], 8 000 total so far)
- HRNS Silent Night
- HRNS Empty Void
- HRNS Dark Shadow
- HRNS Inked Phantom

x2 Tokarev Warcruisers (900pt each, 9 800 so far)
- HRNS Valiant Pride
- HRNS Persistent Pride

x2 Tyrant Battlecarriers (1500pt each, 12 800 so far)
- HRNS Shadow-striker
- HRNS Night-stalker

x12 Guardsmen Cruiser (600pt each, 20 000 so far)
- HRNS Titan's Strength
- HRNS Warrior's Endurance
- HRNS Knight's Valiance
- HRNS Soldier's Determination
- HRNS Paladin's Honor
- HRNS Herald's Power
- HRNS Tyr's Command
- HRNS Wrestler's Force
- HRNS Rogue's Strike

Fleet point Calculations

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8k

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9.8k

+9.8k
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+1.5k
12.8k

+12.8k
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20k

[WilsonTurner]

Updated my app with battlepoints and with Third Fleet

[Durandal]

Oh yeah, forgot to post my fleet. Here it is.

Bedern Fortress Fleet

Name
Bedern Fortress Fleet

Description
The Bedern Fortress Fleet is one of the various defensive groups operating under the Callax Hive for the FPA. Made as a preliminary defense force, the Bedern Fortress Fleet does not conduct offensive operations and is used to supplement other defensive fleets.

Fleet Composition

5 x Gethori Strike Cruiser [6000 pts]
-CNV Longstrike, commanded by Sal Queen Amurai II, command ship of Bedern Fortress Fleet.
-CNV Far Ranger
-CNV Vindicant
-CNV Dark Shroud
-CNV Deadeye

(All vessels carry full complements of Orthog gunships)

8 x Prasjek Destroyers [4800 pts]
-CNV Indomitable
-CNV Resolute
-CNV Breacher
-CNV Fearless
-CNV Conqueror
-CNV Spearhead
-CNV Bastion
-CNV Braveheart

20 x Akuhal Capital Hunters [8000 pts]
-CNV Eradicator
-CNV Annihilator
-CNV Cullexus
-CNV Executioner
-CNV Punisher
-CNV Wraith
-CNV Nihilus
-CNV Reaper
-CNV Ghost
-CNV Spectre
-CNV Haunt
-CNV Hunter
-CNV Consumer
-CNV Exterminator
-CNV Demolisher
-CNV Destructor
-CNV Chimera
-CNV Dragon
-CNV Minotaur
-CNV Hassansin

2 x Tunin Light Frigates (600 pts)
-CNV Bulwark
-CNV Protector

3 x Tulai Heavy Frigates [600 pts]
-CNV Legion
-CNV Guild
-CNV Collective

(All vessels carry full complements of Orthog gunships)

Total: 20000 points

[WilsonTurner]

...

TACTICAL FTL WILL BEAT YOU

[TheUnknowable]

...

TACTICAL FTL WILL BEAT YOU

@WilsonTurner

After the FTL jammers are gone, maybe. Until then, tactical FTL just uses up points in your fleet.

[Willy Vereb]

Well, my fleet is still incomplete because I have yet to finish a few more ships.
But if I have to assign points it'd be something like this:

Broadsword Battlecruisers x 3 - 7500pts
Dagger Stealth Frigates x 5 - 4000 pts
Stripped down Gladius Destroyers x 10 - 2500pts
Nuke-armed Gladius Destroyers x 6 - 2100pts
Stripped down Scythe Escorts x 78 - 3900 pts

Altogether 92 ships.
Almost a decent sized fleet.

<Snipped quote by WilsonTurner>

After the FTL jammers are gone, maybe. Until then, tactical FTL just uses up points in your fleet.

@TheUnknowable

Well, FTL Jammers only work in a relatively limited range.
you can still position behind the ships and such just by being out of range.
The only thing you can't do is to jump right next to the enemy but that isn't even really needed unless you have something which only works at close range.

On the other hand tactical FTL is only an advantage among the many. It doesn't decide the game alone.
Not by a longshot.
Effective sensors can also counter it by having the enemy fleet already wait by the time the FTL jump finishes.

[WilsonTurner]

A Hocklyn's tactical FTL isn't what you're thinking, methinks. Unlike other peoples', a Hocklyn's FTL drive generates heat by the length of time in hyperspace. Microjumps within a system produce very little heat, because it's not across quite so vast distances.

Cirruses can go and take out hyperspace jammers before the enemy even knows I'm there. Then I can wait for the Protheans to engage and force the FPA commit to the engagement, and I can hop in wherever most opportune. I appear to be outnumbered by everyone so far, so.

[TheUnknowable]

If FTL jammers are strictly short range, and don't block you from jumping through their field, then what's the point of them? Are they just to keep the enemy from jumping away?

And how are we supposed to counter a tactical FTL jump unless we also have tactical FTL?

Also, where does the attack occur? Is it in a system or interstellar space?

[Willy Vereb]

If FTL jammers are strictly short range, and don't block you from jumping through their field, then what's the point of them? Are they just to keep the enemy from jumping away?

@TheUnknowable

You can't really block something which only intersects with realspace when it reemerges.
And even if the jammer can extend to hyperspace and all the other dimensions and forms of FTL others use, it doesn't stop ships from choosing their route around the field and then appear behind the fleet.
You can have longer radius for FTL jammers but those are more costly.
Durandal's is basically was suggested by the text to be just about enough to cover the fleet.

And how are we supposed to counter a tactical FTL jump unless we also have tactical FTL?

By using your own damn sensors to predict them and take that little time before the enemy re-emerges to target them with pinpoint accuracy. The enemy will have effectively zero chance to evade thus you effectively turn the situation around.

Also, where does the attack occur? Is it in a system or interstellar space?

I already mentioned this in the battle intro.
It occur in interstellar space.
The neutral zone is a lightyears long section of empty space.
Except the minefield and FTL jammers near the FPA border (and likely for the Dominion border, too)
Then you have various military installations in FPA space.
This may happen close to an asteroid belt or something to give additional cover for them.

[TheUnknowable]

1) Then you could just fly past outside of normal spacetime. FTL jammers are worthless, as is the mine field. I certainly can't attack something in a dimension I can't access. And warp drive doesn't remove you from real space, except in Star Trek, it just moves space around you. Hyperdrive would, but I can't access hyperspace. The field would have to be laid out as a continuous field, and prevent passing or slow down ships that pass through it to be of any use.
For example, Interdictors in Star Wars produce a gravity well that prevents hyperdrives from activating. They are used to block ships from jumping away from battle and to make them revert to normal space when they enter an area. If they couldn't pull ships out of hyperspace they couldn't be used to block starship travel through certain areas.

2) So I can somehow guess the exact point where you are going to leave hyperspace. I thought I only got a vector at best, as you could leave whereever you wanted, and my weapons can't enter another dimension.

3) "After 20 years of peace under the ceasefire agreement in SA2018 a new war is about to break out. Wishing to finish what they had once began the Dominion launches a surprise attack through the neutral zone. Using meticulous use of intelligence and planning they launch a rapid strike against the FPA borders. But first they had to blast their way through the mine field...

Basically this is an open space battle with a certain spin. The Dominion must assault a fortified FPA territory. First line of efense is FTL jammers and a mine field. Dominion has intelligence report on the location of most mines thus they can clear it away efficiently though they still need to be careful otherwise they alarm the FPA forces too soon. Next stage is the various space bases and other fortification in the area, reinforced by the FPA players' fleet. FPA has the advantage in direct combat but their position is known and the enemy has the initiative. Thus the scales balance out."

This doesn't mention whether it's in a star system or interstellar space. Now that I know that, though, I can alter my plan for use in interstellar space.