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Ey, discussing characters has nothing to do with being accepted or denied! One can also have fun when being kept in suspense, y'know xD For example, Rtron and I have already discussed some parts of our characters and the ways he can possibly interact with my character's creations in the future. Doesn't mean I'm gonna be accepted, but it's fun. Especially considering Vestec is freaking mad xd
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Well, speaking of interactions.

You're the goddess of ranges, right? I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume you don't want all the ranges in the world drowned.

If that's the case, I imagine Undasis will greatly oppose you later on in the RP (if we get that far)

Prepare for all the squirrels and foxes in the world to be drowned or turned into some freakish fish-squirrel mutant!
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I don't see Arguis making enemies with anyone unless provoked himself. He would most likely be friends with everyone, or at least cooperate with everyone.
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I don't see Arguis making enemies with anyone unless provoked himself. He would most likely be friends with everyone, or at least cooperate with everyone.


Undasis is not the sort to underestimate knowledge, so I highly doubt he'll be your enemy.

On the other hand, there's a high chance Kraken will attempt to use your knowledge to his own ends (i.e. destroying all land and land-creatures, creating war-fish, gaining power, luring land creatures into his service etc.), whereas Woman of the Waters will probably just ask how you think we should go about making prettier fish :)

EDIT: One thing needs to be said: Undasis will gladly spare the land if all intelligent land-creatures willing choose to serve and obey him. As time goes on, he will probably attempt to transform his land-followers into aquatic creatures, so that they can truly be in the domain of their master.

It's not land he wants so much as power, the oceans are big enough as they are.
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Undasis is not the sort to underestimate knowledge, so I highly doubt he'll be your enemy.

On the other hand, there's a high chance Kraken will attempt to use your knowledge to his own ends (i.e. destroying all land and land-creatures, creating war-fish, gaining power, luring land creatures into his service etc.), whereas Woman of the Waters will probably just ask how you think we should go about making prettier fish :)

EDIT: One thing needs to be said: Undasis will gladly spare the land if all intelligent land-creatures willing choose to serve and obey him. As time goes on, he will probably attempt to transform his land-followers into aquatic creatures, so that they can truly be in the domain of their master.

It's not land he wants so much as power, the oceans are big enough as they are.


Well, Arguis would be happy to tell her the secret to creating pretty fish. If he doesn't die laughing first. Anyway, I have a plan, to create intelligent, militaristic, humanoid flying creatures. And it might be hard to enslave Arguis lol.
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And it might be hard to enslave Arguis lol.


Huh? Even Kraken would never enslave Arguis.

Kraken isn't entirely evil, he doesn't want to kill any of the gods he doesn't have to, and he's happy to let life flourish so long as it does so within his domain.

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Besides, the whole "drown the earth!" thing is mainly a very, very long-term plan. Not the sort of thing he'll start trying to do from the off-set. In the short-term he'll be reasonably tolerant of other gods and land-life, whereas the Woman of the Water side of him would be more open, but still stand-offish
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Huh? Even Kraken would never enslave Arguis.

Kraken isn't entirely evil, he doesn't want to kill any of the gods he doesn't have to, and he's happy to let life flourish so long as it does so within his domain.

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Besides, the whole "drown the earth!" thing is mainly a very, very long-term plan. Not the sort of thing he'll start trying to do from the off-set. In the short-term he'll be reasonably tolerant of other gods and land-life, whereas the Woman of the Water side of him would be more open, but still stand-offish


On the other hand, there's a high chance Kraken will attempt to use your knowledge to his own ends (i.e. destroying all land and land-creatures, creating war-fish, gaining power, luring land creatures into his service etc.)

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Lol, misinterpreted that. Even so, Arguis would not allow that, if it affects his plans. It may not since his people will probably live in that air. If it does, he won't hesitate to go to war with the sea.
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On the other hand, there's a high chance Kraken will attempt to use your knowledge to his own ends (i.e. destroying all land and land-creatures, creating war-fish, gaining power, luring land creatures into his service etc.)

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Lol, misinterpreted that. Even so, Arguis would not allow that, if it affects his plans. It may not since his people will probably live in that air. If it does, he won't hesitate to go to war with the sea.


Actually, air is one of the few things Undasis never plans on screwing with. Even Kraken would rather the domain above be left alone. In many ways, air is just like water:
-You need air to live (like water), but a tornado could decimate entire cities (like a tsunami)
-Rain and clouds are basically combos of air and water
-Air can be peaceful and relaxing during calm winds, but destructive if it starts to push up dust or sand (I've been in a small sandstorm- it's wasn't fun, my mother was almost seriously injured), in the same manner the shore can be relaxing but a stormy sea can be chaotic
-Swimming creatures of the sea can move up, down, all around. Flying creatures of the air can move up, down, all around

Because of this peacefulness for the atmosphere, I may even plan on moving into air as a future domain. It seems close enough to water that it wouldn't be a major jump

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When you said "go to war with the sea" I had a sudden image of a bunch of people firing arrows into the open water, as if they could hurt the ocean itself

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Gods screwing around with the world's balance, trying to make it all one thing or the other, won't go over well with Escre if it ever comes to pass.
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Gods screwing around with the world's balance, trying to make it all one thing or the other, won't go over well with Escre if it ever comes to pass.


Well, then, let me introduce you to my friend Kraken:



He is greedy, power-obsessed, and wants to do everything you just complained about. And he wants to do it with style

But, like I said, that's reserved for the VERY late RP. I want to do a thing where Undasis starts off mainly as Woman of the Water, but slowly gets worse and worse until he has entirely transformed into a fanatical, dangerous Kraken- that's when the war will start.
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Well, speaking of interactions.

You're the goddess of ranges, right? I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume you don't want all the ranges in the world drowned.

If that's the case, I imagine Undasis will greatly oppose you later on in the RP (if we get that far)

Prepare for all the squirrels and foxes in the world to be drowned or turned into some freakish fish-squirrel mutant!


The Ranges are Astarte's personal plane. She retreats there when she wants to escape other gods, but they're also populated by many kinds of creatures which Astartian summoners will be able to summon once we're a few turns into the RP. Astarte will eventually make one of her Heroes open up an Academy to teach all kinds of persons (not just astartians) how to perform Astartian Summoning. So, your people could eventually learn some level of summoning magic if Undasis helps Astarte to build an underwater version of the Academy!
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The Ranges are Astarte's personal plane. She retreats there when she wants to escape other gods, but they're also populated by many kinds of creatures which Astartian summoners will be able to summon once we're a few turns into the RP. Astarte will eventually make one of her Heroes open up an Academy to teach all kinds of persons (not just astartians) how to perform Astartian Summoning. So, your people could eventually learn some level of summoning magic if Undasis helps Astarte to build an underwater version of the Academy!


Undasis may do that, but only with caution. They aren't entirely trusting of outsiders, and mer-people are going to use their own brand of magic that originates from Undasis himself.

That said, it's entirely possible for you to have an underwater Acadamy, if the Woman of Water trusts you enough and you don't openly oppose Kraken
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Well, it's up to Undasis to initiate that interaction, Astarte's interested in what's good for her creations, and there's not a whole lot that can push her to offering putting up that Academy for Undasis, from what I imagine. Otherwise, if one of Undasis' creations somehow finds its way to land, then they can feel free to enter the original Academy xD
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He would most likely be friends with everyone, or at least cooperate with everyone.


Cooperate, with Vestec. Hahahahahahhahahahaha.

that's when the war will start.


The one AFTER Vestec's many, many wars.

Gods screwing around with the world's balance, trying to make it all one thing or the other, won't go over well with Escre if it ever comes to pass.


He might like Vestec, because he's just trying to bring Chaos to all the order, but he also might be upset with him for bringing chaos to all the order.

Especially considering Vestec is freaking mad xd


Hit the nail on the head there.

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Sounds like a hard race to go against. Better befriended then against.


You underestimate Vestec's lack of caring about his followers.

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Of course!

But note that there won't be like a million of them. Rather than a million (1,000,000) 5-foot tall humans, there's gonna be like twenty-thousand (20,000) 100-foot tall Krakens.

When and if I have to fight, the Mermen/Mermaids will make up the bulk of my army, whereas the Kraken's will function like siege-beasts aiding the destruction of cities or massive battles.


When. Vestec won't let you get an if. He's going to reeeaaaally like messing with Undasis. >D

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When. Vestec won't let you get an if. He's going to reeeaaaally like messing with Undasis. >D


I would be careful about that, Undasis is certifiably insane. He might even out-crazy Vestec at times, if not out-evil him.

He's basically a schizophrenic, bipolar, unpredictable, paranoid, multiple-personality madman in divine form.
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By the way, everyone, I updated my CS with greater info on the sentient creations of Undasis. There's the curious, free-spirited Mer-people and the destructive, stupid Kamiv.

Guess which side of Undasis made which?
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I would be careful about that, Undasis is certifiably insane. He might even out-crazy Vestec at times, if not out-evil him.

He's basically a schizophrenic, bipolar, unpredictable, paranoid, multiple-personality madman in divine form.


You know that guy that just keeps poking the bear even if it's going to go on a rampage and kill him and everyone else? That's Vestec. He doesn't care. He just wants chaos, by him or by others. :D
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Well, we know that Vestec will be a hand full. We might as well we for world peace and harmony, make everything Perfect. (That way we don't have to worry about Vestec.)

Anyway, anyone want to do anything with Arguis? I have a plan in mind, I just wanna have a friend, or friends to extend thing with.
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Well, we know that Vestec will be a hand full. We might as well we for world peace and harmony, make everything Perfect. (That way we don't have to worry about Vestec.)

Anyway, anyone want to do anything with Arguis? I have a plan in mind, I just wanna have a friend, or friends to extend thing with.


Undasis greatly respects Arguis' knowledge, plus you may be useful. So Undasis would be super-mega willing to befriend you.
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Undasis greatly respects Arguis' knowledge, plus you may be useful. So Undasis would be super-mega willing to befriend you.


Well, if we get accepted, I'll set something up with you.
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I think, more than any of the others, Escre, Evelyinn, Arguis and Vowzra seem to be the most likely to form a coalition of some kind.

Evelynn, Vowzra and Escre all despise chaos, though they do so to varying degrees, and Arguis has knowledge of their current time line and how things should be, so he probably won't like it very much if what he foresaw isn't actually happening.

But at the same time, timelines, even the same ones, can differ very greatly. Arguis may be seeing one potential timeline and think that it is the best while Vowzra may see a few more, but not the one Arguis sees. This can see them coming up against each other and trying to make different things come to be (which is why I said they'll either be great friends or bitter rivals.)

And then there's the fact that Vowzra's conception of order and chaos are very long-term. These gods see it as terrible and chaotic if the world is shrouded in darkness and Undasis and Vestec are wreaking total carnage on the world, but Vowzra may be happy content with this, he may even aid them in wreaking more carnage. Because to him, that is all in the timeline and therefore orderly. So it would be interesting to see how differing conceptions of order and chaos clash. Thoughts?
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