[OOC] [Ranked] Four Way: Convergence of Power

[GreivousKhan]

There's more issues? D=

[MelonHead]

You've reduced the effectiveness of your armour, but it is still the equivalent of wearing a 25 inch steel body suit and you haven't really explained if it has the same properties as Kevlar, you've just made some abstract points about blunt damage still being effective (which seems like a relatively unimportant weakness, your characters main weakness being that he dies if he bleeds out, and the armour completely protects you from being shot or cut in its current form.

And also the magic nullifying shield which unfortunately completely negates my characters abilities.

Like I said though, if Rilla and the others think the match-up is now fair I'm happy to go.

[GreivousKhan]

You've reduced the effectiveness of your armour, but it is still the equivalent of wearing a 25 inch steel body suit and you haven't really explained if it has the same properties as Kevlar, you've just made some abstract points about blunt damage still being effective (which seems like a relatively unimportant weakness, your characters main weakness being that he dies if he bleeds out, and the armour completely protects you from being shot or cut in its current form.

And also the magic nullifying shield which unfortunately completely negates my characters abilities.

Like I said though, if Rilla and the others think the match-up is now fair I'm happy to go.

@MelonHead

Must be new to the arena, a single prepped attack would cut right through it...

Never mind that Torder can't bleed out possessing no heartbeat, it's limb cutting that's the problem. Which the armor can't counter.

[MelonHead]

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Must be new to the arena, a single prepped attack would cut right through it...

Never mind that Torder can't bleed out possessing no heartbeat, it's limb cutting that's the problem. Which the armor can't counter.

@GreivousKhan

Having armour impervious to anything but a charged attack is a huge advantage, as it does not require any charging or thought at all to work, it essentially gives you a save for any mistake you make while not requiring you to sacrifice anything as it's basically weightless.

[Willy Vereb]

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Having armour impervious to anything but a charged attack is a huge advantage, as it does not require any charging or thought at all to work, it essentially gives you a save for any mistake you make while not requiring you to sacrifice anything as it's basically weightless.

@MelonHead

My punches would have only negligible problems to harm him, actually.
Also your analogy to 25 inches of steel is kinda wrong.
Impact mechanics are more complex than that.
Even if it's indeed 50 times tougher than Kevlar and can dissipate some of the force the airy thin material won't be any help against an .50cal BMG shot for example.
And your piercing attacks wouldn't be any weaker than that, I suppose.

[GreivousKhan]

You'd have to go out of your way to actually hit the armor. And it's not even as strong or covers as much as the Pundambayan body armor.

<Snipped quote by MelonHead>My punches would have only negligible problems to harm him, actually.
Also your analogy to 25 inches of steel is kinda wrong.
Impact mechanics are more complex than that.
Even if it's indeed 50 times tougher than Kevlar and can dissipate some of the force the airy thin material won't be any help against an .50cal BMG shot for example.
And your piercing attacks wouldn't be any weaker than that, I suppose.

@Willy Vereb

He also forgot he uses water, which bypasses cloth armor. XD

[Skallagrim]

Hell's Bell's you can pummel the crap outta him with Ice. A speeding block of ice hurts and while he maybe dead breaking his limbs truly limits him.

[GreivousKhan]

There's so many creative ways to bypass the great coat really, but I used to run with wraiths so maybe it's easier for me to think of them. Apparently creativity is not wanted in the arena.

[Skallagrim]

There's so many creative ways to bypass the great coat really, but I used to run with wraiths so maybe it's easier for me to think of them. Apparently creativity is not wanted in the arena.

@GreivousKhan

Wrong after looking at his character I devised several ways to best your character.

[MelonHead]

There's so many creative ways to bypass the great coat really, but I used to run with wraiths so maybe it's easier for me to think of them. Apparently creativity is not wanted in the arena.

@GreivousKhan

Can you stop being so rude all the time? I just wanted the properties of the armour clarified before the battle began, because its qualities were badly described in my opinion, and considering Rilla asked the same questions the issue was obviously not only limited to me. I don't really care if you have an ability to negate my only form of attack, I'm just critical of a character entered after the others were revealed that happens to hard counter my own.

For the record, my character can't manipulate Ice.

Also, can everyone stop being so cocky and annoying, I think my record speaks for itself, the fact that I'm critical should be in no way a slight upon my ability, be assured I will kick the living shit out of you if I feel like putting my mind to it, though I rarely do. I'm bored of this, when Rilla returns I have no further complaints so he can start this up whenever he's ready. Just know that I won't be pulling any punches in the slightest.

[Skallagrim]

Yes I know Melon but what prevents you from having ice as part of your battle ground? Ice flows accelerated by a current of water can be a powerful tool.

[MelonHead]

Yes I know Melon but what prevents you from having ice as part of your battle ground? Ice flows accelerated by a current of water can be a powerful tool.

@Skallagrim

Waste of energy and flexibility, my character would have to concentrate on melting the Ice to move it around, save in a second hand fashion by pushing at it with water, which would be slow and easily avoided as building up water pressure also takes time to charge.

[GreivousKhan]

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Wrong after looking at his character I devised several ways to best your character.

@Skallagrim

Ain't Nobody Got Time for That!

[LeeRoy]

It's just a coat, hit him in the face or legs or arms. Hell, kick him in the babymaker.

[Rilla]

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Waste of energy and flexibility, my character would have to concentrate on melting the Ice to move it around, save in a second hand fashion by pushing at it with water, which would be slow and easily avoided as building up water pressure also takes time to charge.

@MelonHead

In theory, you can set it up so that the floes and water are already moving at an accelerated pace. There are almost no limits to what your battlefield can do; thus meaning you could, in theory, just redirect the water.

While it is slightly fishy, lolpun, that his character has turned out to be a hard counter to yours, he ain't unbeatable and still has to worry about two other dicks trying to pester his rear.

I'm not too worried about the needing prep thing, because even with a bulletproof vest, you can still cause some damage if you hit it(if movies are any indication).

I'll allow it and keep an eye on it, as I plan to do with all of you. If it seems like he's starting to bullshit his way out of everything with the lolcoatofwraithdoom, or his other abilities, I'll put a stop to that real quick, 0-1 hunna.

[GreivousKhan]

Don't know about that counter thing, considering my attacks can't hurt (and worse would heal) the water Wraith. XD

[Willy Vereb]

Yeah, to be fair my character has little in the ways of hurting Melon's water wraith and unlike everybody else's character here Alicia isn't that smart to quickly figure out alternatives.
Yet I don't complain, neither at the possibility of Khan "no-selling" my energy attacks by his fire defense.
It gives me things to struggle with and overcome in a style fitting my character.
...Or fail trying.

The only thing we need to keep in mind that regardless of the flowery text and descriptions on our abilities, all fighters should be roughly equal.
The only differences are on what we put our focus and exactly what kind of abilities we have.

[MelonHead]

Yeah, to be fair my character has little in the ways of hurting Melon's water wraith and unlike everybody else's character here Alicia isn't that smart to quickly figure out alternatives.
Yet I don't complain, neither at the possibility of Khan "no-selling" my energy attacks by his fire defense.
It gives me things to struggle with and overcome in a style fitting my character.
...Or fail trying.

The only thing we need to keep in mind that regardless of the flowery text and descriptions on our abilities, all fighters should be roughly equal.
The only differences are on what we put our focus and exactly what kind of abilities we have.

@Willy Vereb

I was under the impression your character had attacks with a burning effect and lazer beam explosives, which is two of Anna's many weaknesses, I can't quite fathom how you can possibly fail to see your options. Your complaints about fire would be ridiculously uncomparable to my own complaints, your character is still inherently superhuman without her magic, mine can't even lift her own body weight. I don't really need to justify it though, it's so obvious its barely worth arguing.

[Willy Vereb]

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I was under the impression your character had attacks with a burning effect and lazer beam explosives, which is two of Anna's many weaknesses, I can't quite fathom how you can possibly fail to see your options. Your complaints about fire would be ridiculously uncomparable to my own complaints, your character is still inherently superhuman without her magic, mine can't even lift her own body weight. I don't really need to justify it though, it's so obvious its barely worth arguing.

@MelonHead

Well, I personally can know counters. Alicia herself may keep punching and kicking you, though.
As for burning effects, it could be. In the recent days I talked about them in this context but now that I remember my initial idea the energy blasts were supposed to be concussive in effect in general.
They can be destructive but because of Alicia's kindheartedness the energy blasts often knock out the target and disperse damage through their body than anything lethal.
Though if Alicia focuses on that the energy blasts can burn.
Well, think of energy attacks from superhero comics. Those tend to change their properties depending on what's more convenient for the situation. It went as far as they eventually had to justify Cyclops' energy beams as he can convert light into kinetic energy or some BS.
Still not sure on his mechanics with the banking-bouncing energy blasts, though.

[GreivousKhan]

<Snipped quote by MelonHead>Well, I personally can know counters. Alicia herself may keep punching and kicking you, though.
As for burning effects, it could be. In the recent days I talked about them in this context but now that I remember my initial idea the energy blasts were supposed to be concussive in effect in general.
They can be destructive but because of Alicia's kindheartedness the energy blasts often knock out the target and disperse damage through their body than anything lethal.
Though if Alicia focuses on that the energy blasts can burn.
Well, think of energy attacks from superhero comics. Those tend to change their properties depending on what's more convenient for the situation. It went as far as they eventually had to justify Cyclops' energy beams as he can convert light into kinetic energy or some BS.
Still not sure on his mechanics with the banking-bouncing energy blasts, though.

@Willy Vereb

I think it was once explain Cyclops eyes are actually gateways to another dimension that the energy comes from... >.>