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@GreatSalmon Your king is accepted. Though for some reason I was thinking you were gonna spring for Kuzco, the greatest Disney princess ever. Though that might have been due to my friends joking around. XD
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Just realized that Fawfull is Going to hate Faust
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HAHAHAHAH! King Knight, that bloody dandy... this shall be glorious
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@GreatSalmon Your king is accepted. Though for some reason I was thinking you were gonna spring for Kuzco, the greatest Disney princess ever. Though that might have been due to my friends joking around. XD


Our king is accepted.

You're welcome.
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@Grey Star i think i am going to drop hazmat
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@Dead Cruiser: Okay, I haven't looked into the bio too in-depth yet and GS can't post at the moment(though I'm talking it over with her), but from skimming through I immediately noticed he can apparently use mind control with no real way for anyone to defend from it.
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@Dead Cruiser: Okay, I haven't looked into the bio too in-depth yet and GS can't post at the moment(though I'm talking it over with her), but from skimming through I immediately noticed he can apparently use mind control with no real way for anyone to defend from it.


That's not really it. If you'd read more closely, you would see that it's more like supernatural charisma. He has the Presence discipline, not the Dominate discipline.
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@ToadRopes DK is in provided he doesn't punch moons.

@Billsomething Alright.

@Dead Cruiser Gonna say no to Sobek since he might not exist and has no canon appearance, personality, or abilities. Also because he's a god-like being, which I explicitly said not to spring for as per my first post as well.
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((I know the GM already spoke on it, but I was like, almost done with this when I saw their post, and I need to express my view on this topic! You gotta let me! You gotta gotta GOTTA!))

Being a crossover guy for a long while, I'm always a bit indifferent about godlike characters. I know its not really my place to put input, as I'm not in charge of the roleplay and stuff, but I've had an opinion on this for a long time now. In my opinion, gods can be a very strangely played. I was never a fan of the setup where a god is just "holding back his power", and hanging around with people cus' fuck it n' stuff I'm a god and I'm cool like that and here I created a pony from thin air. I think it limits how much fun you can have with a character when you can't use them to their full potential. Usually, when I want to play a godlike character, I want them to blow up shit and turn people into flan. That's just my opinion though. It's irrelevant to our good ol' buddy Sobek here, and I am by no means claiming that wanting to play the crocodile god is wrong.

My concern is the character's effect on the rest of the roleplay. Because, depending on the god's alignment, he/she can completely take control of the story. If they're leaning towards evil guy territory, than they are most likely going to adopt that role. And I think when we give a player other than the GM the power to do this, to take over the events occurring in this world, I think the roleplay will take on a different atmosphere than what was originally planned. And I'm not claiming that we shouldn't have the players steering along the roleplay, hell, I love it when that happens. Hell, I'd love there to be a time during this roleplay where Pridemoor get a spotlight (vote for Pridemoor as Mayor folks. Free Pridemoor praising sessions included). It allows for a lot of chemistry with characters to form, and often leads to a lot of ridiculous adventures. Sometimes they can be dramatic, and if they've practically absorbed the entire focus of the roleplay, people not involved in it, or just people in general not having the spotlight, can get really turned off.

And that's my main fear about godlike characters; their power and evil-bad guy-ness will eventually land them into the role of controlling where the roleplay goes, its atmosphere, and especially what the player's characters are supposed to be doing.

Sorry for the lengthy post. Potato.
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@Dead Cruiser Gonna say no to Sobek since he might not exist and has no canon appearance, personality, or abilities. Also because he's a god-like being, which I explicitly said not to spring for as per my first post as well.


1) He quite explicitly listed as existing in the Chained By the Beast book.

2) He has vague descriptions of all of those factors in the books Chained By the Beast, Clan Book: Followers of Set and Breed Book: Mokole. I will grant that some of those were as much as a single line ("a giant, albino crocodile") that I had to embellish quite a bit, but he's not just something I made up.

3) He really isn't. He's a very old, very powerful vampire, but he's not a god. Merely worshipped as one by fanatics. His Presence Discipline encourages this by giving him a glorious, divine aura. Even so, he (and any vampire, really) are quite far from gods in World of Darkness.

@GreatSalmon I understand you concerns, and I generally agree. I'm just reiterating that Sobek is a huge, incredibly depressed crocodile, not an actual god.
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Well, that was quite a mouth-full XD I might say that the RP is already doomed to head down that route 'in a way' if we even have player controlled villains in the first place since we'll inevitably have to face the, but that's neither here nor there.

I actually imagine what you described is one of the big issues most GMs would have with 'god tier' characters, RP Hijacking, intentional or not. I myself also rather enjoy playing powerful characters, but it's so much more fun to 'blow shit up' responsibly instead of essentially going 'Saints row 4 with cheats turned on' XD

Of course, I also get a kick out of taking unacceptably OP things and squeezing them through a small hole until they fit into the RP without being OP anymore.
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Sobek isn't Godlike. He is a God. At least if we're going for Egyptian Mythos. However, we're going for WoD Mythos...
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@Dead Cruiser: While he may have been mentioned, the rules state characters must have a canon personality and ability set.
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Rules

Being that this is a crossover rp intended for established characters from various media, there a few rules to consider.

1) Permitted characters encompass those from visual media, literature, video games, and other such published franchises. Original Characters are not permitted. Webcomics are considered okay. Customizable characters from video games are okay as long as they have some sort of canon personality and are not just heroic mimes. Mass Effect Shepard and Persona Protagonists work out in this regard while characters who solely exist just for gameplay do not.

2) Obviously, no ghosting, auto-hitting, godmoding, or writing up reactions for other people's characters, both PC and NPC. Also no characters who are above a certain level of ability, such as reality warpers or gods that can shift the continents. Even then, some characters below the level may not be able to be used, mind readers or future foretellers being chief among the no no list. Mind control, hypnotism, and arbitrary debuffs such as petrification or one hit kill poisons are also pretty much taboo.


Please make sure to read the ground rules when making characters, okay? I put them in there for a reason and I see more than a couple being broken already.
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@Dead Cruiser: While he may have been mentioned, the rules state characters must have a canon personality and ability set.


Chained by the Beast states that the Abd'al-Sobek prizes the Serpentis discipline foremost, followed by the Obfuscation and Presence disciplines. The revised Vampire: the Masquerade rulebook lists 4th Generation Vampires (such as Sobek) as carrying 50 blood points, spending 10 per round, and having a maximum trait rating of 9 dots. Under a Blood Red Moon lists what Rites and Gifts can be kept by a Fera that is Embraced, and what happens to their Gnosis score.

The former book also describes the activities of the Abd'al-Sobek, as directed by their patron. The latter book describes the temperament, morality system and derangements earned by Abominations.

I had to do some cross referencing today, but mechanically and canonically, this is essentially Sobek.

I honestly feel a little put-upon, presumably just because my character has a weak wiki page.
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Just realized that Fawfull is Going to hate Faust

Why's that?

@Dead Cruiser I really don't know the meaning of any of the game mechanic statistics you just listed, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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@Dead Cruiser I really don't know the meaning of any of the game mechanic statistics you just listed, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.


They really aren't significant. I'm not translating the game mechanics directly into the RP, I'm just trying to demonstrate that I'm not just pulling all of this out of my ass.

I apologize for being stubborn about this, but as you can clearly see from the number of books I had to delve through, I put a lot of work into this character.
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@Sir Screwloose Fawfull has Napoleon complex and Faust (So Far) is the tallest character in this rp
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