[OOC] NoW: GreivousKhan vs. Yoshua171 Rnd: 2

[GreivousKhan]

You know what that's my bad. While their ability to build just makes sense in case they are damaged, I realized that I was mixing the abilities of his "cloak of air," with the abilities of the nanites on accident. Nonetheless the only thing that changes is that his nanites can be destroyed by yours. However my issue is only changed because of it. The issue is those banites have been replicating for 2-3 of my posts if not longer and you made no effort to destroy them till I used them to attack. Additionally when they attacked none of the ones in the cloud approaching him should be in contact with his mibs so him annihilating them before they make contact isn't terribly reasonable.

Destroy a good portion, sure. But all of them in one fell swoop I think not. Especially since they are still replicating and are equipped with highly sensitive cameras. So they'd be able to feasibly dodge since usually their processes are largely automated anyways.

Out of curiosity are your mibs immune to most forms of attack?

@yoshua171

Ah, I seem to have immoted that point in my post. The reason his nano machines are in ravaonus hunger mode is because of the recent sword clone's construction. They only eat when they need more matter to replenish their numbers or build swords other wise you have a grey too scenrio. Also as to the number lost I only included any in the cloud. (That grenade still went off) any nanies near you or on you would be fine.

Also that would depend on the attack. As starlhim is their main component it would need to be a none elmental attack. Though I have Ben wondering how Real can see through the ash cloud of MIBs.

[Skallagrim]

Your match ends Sunday night 12 EST.

[yoshua171]

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Ah, I seem to have immoted that point in my post. The reason his nano machines are in ravaonus hunger mode is because of the recent sword clone's construction. They only eat when they need more matter to replenish their numbers or build swords other wise you have a grey too scenrio. Also as to the number lost I only included any in the cloud. (That grenade still went off) any nanies near you or on you would be fine.

Also that would depend on the attack. As starlhim is their main component it would need to be a none elmental attack. Though I have Ben wondering how Real can see through the ash cloud of MIBs.

@GreivousKhan

Raelis can't see it as much as he can feel through it. His armor's wind manipulation allows him to feel disturbances within its area of influence. So he's partially using his avian vision and hearing while also using the wind thing to sense. It's a passive so the ability is unaffected by energy absorption or disruption. His enhanced ability to process due to needing that for his superior senses and movement (flight) speeda allows him to process and discern a great deal. I'd also argue that he can easily detect the heat of anything nearby as that'd be a necessary ability for his heat transfer to work.

As to the mibs being in devour mode, that's kinda beside the point. Raelis' nanites are still replicating and they self repair. That hasn't changed. So it's a losing proposition. They can also undertake evasive maneuvers as I mentioned.

I have a day off work tomorrow. If we can speed the fight up on that day we could get a lot more done.

[GreivousKhan]

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Raelis can't see it as much as he can feel through it. His armor's wind manipulation allows him to feel disturbances within its area of influence. So he's partially using his avian vision and hearing while also using the wind thing to sense. It's a passive so the ability is unaffected by energy absorption or disruption. His enhanced ability to process due to needing that for his superior senses and movement (flight) speeda allows him to process and discern a great deal. I'd also argue that he can easily detect the heat of anything nearby as that'd be a necessary ability for his heat transfer to work.

As to the mibs being in devour mode, that's kinda beside the point. Raelis' nanites are still replicating and they self repair. That hasn't changed. So it's a losing proposition. They can also undertake evasive maneuvers as I mentioned.

I have a day off work tomorrow. If we can speed the fight up on that day we could get a lot more done.

@yoshua171

Wouldn't the trillions of things moving in his influence disrupt or overload feelings such as that? Also you asked why their assimilating now and I told you, if its beside the point why ask?

Also as a announcements of sorts I wont be able to post all weekend due to the holidays until after Monday. So unless Skalla is willing ot extend this a bit I'm not sure.

[yoshua171]

Well the "tomorrow," of then is now today. So if you're not free today then I suppose my post is the last one we're gonna get into this fight, which is a damn shame really.

Raelis can focus in and out of aspects of his perception. It's the same as drowning out background noise. So he's aware of the nanites enough that if they become a threat he can shift his attention, but not so much that they're getting in the way of his primary target.

Also the nanites probably don't have much in regards to a heat signature, so that secondary sensory ability is helping as well.

Plus, Raelis isn't equal to a human mentally either, he's superior. Side effect of avian focus/perception would be increased processing power. If he were JUST avian it'd be different because he'd not be sentient, but since he is it's kinda required.

I'm going to write my reply. If you don't have time today, well that's mighty unfortunate. I get the feeling that, since you've had the advantage pretty much this whole time, you're going to win when he grades it.

If I'm wrong, well that'll be a pleasant surprise haha.

[GreivousKhan]

Thank you for the responses!

Maybe my tomorrow is today's yesterday? HMMM!!

Also I my theme is badass and prefect for this fight, I think. ^^

Anyway, that would explain his mannerisms, Tablurath finds overly serious people boring. Though it does fit Raelis. I usually take a day or so t process a post before posting, as I think better in the morning after I wake up as I feel much more critical of my thoughts. Thouh it might depend; as you might imagine posting for Tablurath's mindset is difficult at times, how do you RP a person several degrees smarter than yourself or any one you have ever met? Just wrapping ones mind around a person who has 100% of their brains potential can be a little much. Hoping to humanize him some in following post.

In any case I'd be surprised if I have actually been doing all that well, plus Skalla hates me. Though you recently ticked him with questions so its probably even dislike. XD

No one has landed a hit and it will probably go either way. I just picture this ending before their final clash. :K

as a side note, This is the first time ever I've ever been in a match with you before @yoshua171. I always wanted to try myself against someone of your writing caliber and it is a great honor indeed.

[yoshua171]

@GreivousKhan that is quite flattering really. I like to consider myself as fairly skilled, but I retain a certain level of humblenes so I make a point of not comparing myself to any of the people who have been in the arena for quite a long while (Skallagrim, Rilla, yourself, MelonHead), though I feel I'm probably somewhere around a similar skill level.

It's nice to know that my writing is appreciated by the way. I've quite enjoyed the inner monologue an narration of this battle, your posts and mine. Though I do have less of that narration since Raelis is a warrior and a soldier so when in battle any superfluous thought is kinda thrown out the window. That or he doesn't want me to write it...which is weird. Yeah, my characters are kinda sentient in their own right xD

This has been quite challenging since Tablurath's abilities do well to counter a fair amount of Raelis'. They probably have the same martial might, but your weapons are easily more powerful than Raelis' Blade of Rhay in terms of raw usefulness.

It is nice that I got you as my second opponent because my first round battle was kinda grating...since my opponent didn't really seem to be taking much of anything seriously. His character also seemed a bit out matched by Raelis, not that he couldn't have won, I just feel he made some less than stellar decisions, you know?

In regards to how I personally play characters smarter than myself.... Depending on their level of perception I assume that unless they are dealing with someone of equal processing ability or they are dealing with something outside of their frame of experience, then they are likely going to see a great deal of things coming. On the other hand, I balance that out with them having certain emotions, like amusement or boredom with their interactions.

Arkaeis Zraimat/Zume Tatasuko is my favorite in regards to this, but he's a high powered tier character.

Also, nice theme choice. Fate/Zero FTW!

OH YEAH AND MY POST IS UP xD

If you have time/mental clarity to make a post it'd be great~

I'm free all day so if we get some more done we can at least enjoy this clash for a bit longer!

[Skallagrim]

I will be honest, you are both skilled. This will be a close judgement if it goes to the card. Actually both matches are going to be tight.

[GreivousKhan]

@GreivousKhan that is quite flattering really. I like to consider myself as fairly skilled, but I retain a certain level of humblenes so I make a point of not comparing myself to any of the people who have been in the arena for quite a long while (Skallagrim, Rilla, yourself, MelonHead), though I feel I'm probably somewhere around a similar skill level.

It's nice to know that my writing is appreciated by the way. I've quite enjoyed the inner monologue an narration of this battle, your posts and mine. Though I do have less of that narration since Raelis is a warrior and a soldier so when in battle any superfluous thought is kinda thrown out the window. That or he doesn't want me to write it...which is weird. Yeah, my characters are kinda sentient in their own right xD

This has been quite challenging since Tablurath's abilities do well to counter a fair amount of Raelis'. They probably have the same martial might, but your weapons are easily more powerful than Raelis' Blade of Rhay in terms of raw usefulness.

It is nice that I got you as my second opponent because my first round battle was kinda grating...since my opponent didn't really seem to be taking much of anything seriously. His character also seemed a bit out matched by Raelis, not that he couldn't have won, I just feel he made some less than stellar decisions, you know?

In regards to how I personally play characters smarter than myself.... Depending on their level of perception I assume that unless they are dealing with someone of equal processing ability or they are dealing with something outside of their frame of experience, then they are likely going to see a great deal of things coming. On the other hand, I balance that out with them having certain emotions, like amusement or boredom with their interactions.

Arkaeis Zraimat/Zume Tatasuko is my favorite in regards to this, but he's a high powered tier character.

Also, nice theme choice. Fate/Zero FTW!

OH YEAH AND MY POST IS UP xD

If you have time/mental clarity to make a post it'd be great~

I'm free all day so if we get some more done we can at least enjoy this clash for a bit longer!

@yoshua171

Oh man I know exactly what you mean about sentient characters. At times it feels like Tablurath does things even I have no idea have any meaning, then its only later I know what it meant. Maybe I'm crazy. o.o

And woot a post! I'll try and build up a post today, Not sure if I'll have time tomorrow so I might risk a bit of rushing.

I will be honest, you are both skilled. This will be a close judgement if it goes to the card. Actually both matches are going to be tight.

@Skallagrim

I'm Skilled!?!??!

[yoshua171]

I will be honest, you are both skilled. This will be a close judgement if it goes to the card. Actually both matches are going to be tight.

@Skallagrim

Really, you think so? :D

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Oh man I know exactly what you mean about sentient characters. At times it feels like Tablurath does things even I have no idea have any meaning, then its only later I know what it meant. Maybe I'm crazy. o.o

And woot a post! I'll try and build up a post today, Not sure if I'll have time tomorrow so I might risk a bit of rushing.

@GreivousKhan

Yeah, all of my characters are like that. It's why, when people ask me why my CSes are long I say "Because I don't build characters, I build people."

Also, I have experienced that exact thing. IN COMBAT EVEN, where they imply a meaning, or do something subtle that doesn't mean anything to me at the time of my writing it. Then 1-4 posts later it suddenly clicks and I realize how relavent that tiny detail was and that they had actually PLANNED AHEAD for something I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WAS GONNA HAPPEN >_>

It's like "WTF!" and "Well, this is useful," at the same time hahaha.

[yoshua171]

So @GreivousKhan I know you established that your nanites were eating material, but you at no point said that they were eating the slime. I'm gonna have to call you out on that because it's awfully convenient that you didn't mention them doing that and then they suddenly have already done it when my maneuver involves said substance.

That's not cool beans bro.

I mean, my whole post would be different if the slime hadn't been on the ground for awhile and Raelis would have noticed the slime and pebbles disappearing, especially in his vicinity.

Also your Starlhrim blades are stated to be capable of influencing magical energy, not non-magical energy. Kinetic energy is decidedly not magical and neither is the electromagnetic energy within the armor plates. So you're absorbing something you should by all rights be unable to.

I really don't like to nitpick, I really don't.

But if you can mess with kinetic energy on top of nullifying magic, I don't see the point in this. Especially since you're not stated as being capable of doing that kind of thing.

I should also remind you that all of Raelis' armor is covered with nanites which will resist yours fiercely, batting yours away and rebuilding the armor, and eachother, when you attempt to destroy. Because they're defending a smaller surface area they would have the advantage on that front as well. So yeah, no.

[GreivousKhan]

I've never really bothered including what the mibs were assimilating all the time since there is only stones around us. I did mention they were focused on the ground as I had plan on flattening the terrain, since He couldn't see though the mist I kept it to the wayside for later. I mean either way you look at it you have to go through the slime first before you reach the rocks as there it literally nothing else to assimilate to build things out off. In either case they wouldn't have a problem eating through ice.

Also I never messed with electromagnetic energy in the armor as far as I can tell. He sheds his momentum from high flash-point into his blades, which is why he can move from one sword to another and stop instantly. It doesn't effect kinetic energy aside from himself. It's that or he has complete control of his momentum, which is even worse as that would make him way to powerful.

[yoshua171]

The thick cloud was densest closes to the floor as it swept across the uneven ground.

Combined with the "assimilating," bit is fine I guess, but the problem with it is Raelis can feel the ground. So he'd know if it were still covered in slime at least within 8 meters. So my whole maneuver would not have been viable to begin with so he'd have never used it. It's not like he can't tell the difference between air and slime with his claws or just by the sensation of the ground under his feet.

Also, you just failed to address the fact that your nanites still should be unable to tear apart his armor. It's covered in layer upon layer of microscopic nanites. There are enough layers of them that they all reinforce one another by rebuilding themselves and replicating repeatedly. I've been doing that since my second post so if only by virtue of that defensive measure having 6 preps on it, and your mibs striking at the defense having no preps it should not work. The measure was designed to slow down his mibs and help defend against your blades somewhat as well.

If it's alright, I'll be editing the ice bit out of my previous post since it's not even viable to begin with (no slime=no possibility for ice).

Also, I am going to be refuting your nanites assimilating the armor plates due to the aforementioned reasons in my next post. Which I will be writing shortly.

Any questions?

EDIT: What's Tablurath's mask made of?

[GreivousKhan]

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Combined with the "assimilating," bit is fine I guess, but the problem with it is Raelis can feel the ground. So he'd know if it were still covered in slime at least within 8 meters. So my whole maneuver would not have been viable to begin with so he'd have never used it. It's not like he can't tell the difference between air and slime with his claws or just by the sensation of the ground under his feet.

Also, you just failed to address the fact that your nanites still should be unable to tear apart his armor. It's covered in layer upon layer of microscopic nanites. There are enough layers of them that they all reinforce one another by rebuilding themselves and replicating repeatedly. I've been doing that since my second post so if only by virtue of that defensive measure having 6 preps on it, and your mibs striking at the defense having no preps it should not work. The measure was designed to slow down his mibs and help defend against your blades somewhat as well.

If it's alright, I'll be editing the ice bit out of my previous post since it's not even viable to begin with (no slime=no possibility for ice).

Also, I am going to be refuting your nanites assimilating the armor plates due to the aforementioned reasons in my next post. Which I will be writing shortly.

Any questions?

EDIT: What's Tablurath's mask made of?

@yoshua171

Yes, that's my fault, I should have kept up to date with what the mibs are doing to the ground, but there are allot of stuff to consider in a match like this. :K

As for the armor, in that case I suppose even separated it should be fine in regards to being broken down. Also I always understood someone could only prep one ability at a time, then use a none ability to attack with while prepping. But I'm not really sure on that so I'll ask @Skallagrim since overall that's very handy information to know. By mibs I imagine you mean his swords.

Edit: Different substances, mostly synthetic fibers, metal, and reinforced glass over the visors. It's toughness would probably be around Kevlar.

[yoshua171]

The thing about Raelis' abilities is they can all build up rather quickly. He can pressurize air by moving. His heat is basically a passive prep (meaning it builds up at a constant rate as long as he devotes energy to channeling it). The electromagnetic bit is less a prep, but more a build up.

If it's not a prep, it'd still be just fine considering the other points, which is why I mentioned both points rather than just one point.

For all intensive purposes I don't consider Raelis' heat generation a prep, nor the electromagnetic or wind bits. They behave similarly, but are not quite the same.

So the only thing that's feasibly being prepped is the armor. Anywho. Rather than edit my last post. Just presume he didn't waste much time, energy, or attention doing that.

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Side note so that you're aware of this for my next post and don't mistake it for my character thinking it to be true, rather than it literally being true.

The Light of Devene is a magic which channels energy from their star, Rhay. This means that the magic is not the GENERATION of the heat/light, but instead is the guidance and channeling of this heat/light.

Ultimately this means that the "elemental," nature of the Devene light is NOT magic, but that their control of it is. So when I use heat magic, your starlhrim blades can't absorb the heat because they interact with magical/supernatural energy. What they will absorb is the energy that is guiding the magic. This means that the heat/light will remain where it was and will not disperse, weaken, dim, or lower in temp. It'll just sit there till a user of Devene light reconnects to it with their energies.

So yeah, absorbing his magic doesn't lower the temperature or dim the light, but instead disrupts his control of that heat and light. This is OOC knowledge and since Khazna, or the Angar-Rylla, have not made contact with the Asarae he has no business knowing or predicting it because he shouldn't know how the magic works.

If I see you countering it due to having "predicted it," I am going to be be upset. With that in mind *works on his reply*

Edit: Noted in regards to his mask.

[yoshua171]

Okay. Accidentally posted without editing. Just fixed the minor detail. Your turn @GreivousKhan

[yoshua171]

No wait. NOW I did it. Damn typos.

[GreivousKhan]

I might not be able to post until after Monday, so Not sure if Skalla wants to extend the time or not.

The thing about Raelis' abilities is they can all build up rather quickly. He can pressurize air by moving. His heat is basically a passive prep (meaning it builds up at a constant rate as long as he devotes energy to channeling it). The electromagnetic bit is less a prep, but more a build up.

If it's not a prep, it'd still be just fine considering the other points, which is why I mentioned both points rather than just one point.

For all intensive purposes I don't consider Raelis' heat generation a prep, nor the electromagnetic or wind bits. They behave similarly, but are not quite the same.

So the only thing that's feasibly being prepped is the armor. Anywho. Rather than edit my last post. Just presume he didn't waste much time, energy, or attention doing that.

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Side note so that you're aware of this for my next post and don't mistake it for my character thinking it to be true, rather than it literally being true.

The Light of Devene is a magic which channels energy from their star, Rhay. This means that the magic is not the GENERATION of the heat/light, but instead is the guidance and channeling of this heat/light.

Ultimately this means that the "elemental," nature of the Devene light is NOT magic, but that their control of it is. So when I use heat magic, your starlhrim blades can't absorb the heat because they interact with magical/supernatural energy. What they will absorb is the energy that is guiding the magic. This means that the heat/light will remain where it was and will not disperse, weaken, dim, or lower in temp. It'll just sit there till a user of Devene light reconnects to it with their energies.

So yeah, absorbing his magic doesn't lower the temperature or dim the light, but instead disrupts his control of that heat and light. This is OOC knowledge and since Khazna, or the Angar-Rylla, have not made contact with the Asarae he has no business knowing or predicting it because he shouldn't know how the magic works.

If I see you countering it due to having "predicted it," I am going to be be upset. With that in mind *works on his reply*

Edit: Noted in regards to his mask.

@yoshua171

Ah, well it mentioned the air prep of six turns or something awhile ago so I was confused about what was the prep and what was not. I was going to edit my post to reflect the parry's not causing the armor to be cleaved, but I guess it won't matter now that you posted anyway.

The nature of Devene is not all that important. Since what Khazna does is not absorb magic, he cuts the threads that caused or allowed it to exist. This essentially means it possesses no future, no past, and thus never existed. Causing the effect to meet a sort of paradox that causes the effect to collapse. For example a spell that created fire or wind would not mean the fire itself is magic, he merely cut out the magic from its past thus causing the fire to cease to exist in the now.

He can basically see space time (in short he has a dreamers vision though it is imperfect as he can't read the future only see the threads) though he can't physically manipulate space or time himself, but he can cut the magic/channeling in the past that created the effect thus it ceases to exist or happen. Make sense? It's a tad hard to explain, but as long as magic caused the effect, or started the channeling of it to a place. If it never happened the effect wont exist in the now.

[yoshua171]

3 things.

1.) The magnetized bladed plates were still around Tablurath.

2.) The plates that went to strike Mercy away would have struck it a meter or 4 away from Raelis.

3.) Given that ability functions as you just described, then it has a weakness and I'm going to exploit it when I get home or tomorrow depending on how tired I feel.

[Skallagrim]

THIS MATCH HAS ENDED 10/12/2015 at 12:46 AM. I WILL HAVE SCORES AND A WINNER WITHIN 36-HOURS.