[OOC] Animal Army

[Tracyarmav]

@KatherinWinter That's just an If/then, if they tranq him, he's asleep on top of Vlad, which doesn't help Vlad any...

If you still think I need to edit, I will, but I full expect to get tranqed and dragged off. I just thought maybe Vlad would demand they not shoot in case one of them accidentally hits him instead, though since their Pros, Isa doubts that'll happen, but maybe Vlad thinks it will and orders them not to tranq Isa, at least at first?

[Tracyarmav]

@Tracyarmav Huh? I imagine you would have to ask the guard and wait for Vlad or Sean to answer your request.

@KatherinWinter

I meant how do I get Vlad permanently installed as Isa's new mattress, I finally found out what Vlad is good for.

[KatherinWinter]

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I meant how do I get Vlad permanently installed as Isa's new mattress, I finally found out what Vlad is good for.

@Tracyarmav

LOL Not happening.

@KatherinWinter That's just an If/then, if they tranq him, he's asleep on top of Vlad, which doesn't help Vlad any...

If you still think I need to edit, I will, but I full expect to get tranqed and dragged off. I just thought maybe Vlad would demand they not shoot in case one of them accidentally hits him instead, though since their Pros, Isa doubts that'll happen, but maybe Vlad thinks it will and orders them not to tranq Isa, at least at first?

@Tracyarmav

I mean that he couldn't growl or snap at anyone approaching. The guards would have started taken shots as soon as he grabbed Vlad. Maybe even sooner with Roxy and Blue's attacks. Some of the guards might have hesitated but there is no way all of them would have. Vlad would have waited until the last second to signal them to hold.

[BlackPanther]

And lucifer will stomp away with guards since he didn't attack Vlad :P unless he got shot too then he'll be passed out

[KatherinWinter]

@BlackPanther He might get one or two but once he got in the way too many times he would be tranqued.

[BlackPanther]

@KatherinWinter gotcha

[Tracyarmav]

@KatherinWinter I'm saying that Isa isn't snapping at anyone in my post, I'm just elaborating what will happen if they don't tranq him before they approach. Make sense? And Luci is being compliant, not attacking the guards.

[KatherinWinter]

@TracyarmavIm saying that 'Though if anyone tried to move him, he snarl at them, and if they got in range bite them. His claws he would keep firmly lodged into Vlad.' isn't possible. And it wouldn't matter if Lucifer was attacking or just in the way

[Tracyarmav]

Forgive me for I fail to see why it's impossible. No one has tranqed him yet, so I can't respond to the gaurds tranqing Isa...@KatherinWinter

That would be power gaming at the least...

I'm okay if he get's tranq... my post does not prevent that from happening nor does it presume that it will not happen.

[Tracyarmav]

Edited my post, is that better?

[KatherinWinter]

@Tracyarmav
You need to decided if you want to control the guards or have me do it. Because so far everyone has mentioned the guards actions or lack there of. I haven't taken control of the guards simply because most post included a mention of their actions or inactions. I am fine with that as long as you take into account their training. But we have had too many post that make the guards look like statues rather then efficient soldiers. Last four post should have been something like.
1. Roxy throws the knives. Guards look to Vlad to see whether this is acceptable. He would allow it because of they are in weapons training.
2. Blue attacks. Guards would look to Vlad. (still waiting for Hailey to edit or clarify her post) Guards would be alert.
3. Isa makes a grab for Vlad. Vlad gets scratched while dropping to the ground. Guards tranq Isa.
4. Lucifer makes grab for Isa (whatever you want Isa's reaction to be) Guards warning him to step back.

Now I can add the guards actions our you can. Which do you prefer?

[Tracyarmav]

Ahhh, I prefer you run the guards, and was posting under the assumption that you were. Sorry for the confusion.

I'm accustomed to the GM running all NPC's not made by/for a specific player. That's a carry over from the D&D campaigns I started with.

[KatherinWinter]

Forgive me for I fail to see why it's impossible. No one has tranqed him yet, so I can't respond to the gaurds tranqing Isa...@KatherinWinter
That would be power gaming at the least...
I'm okay if he get's tranq... my post does not prevent that from happening nor does it presume that it will not happen.

@Tracyarmav

Actually that isn't true. It would limit your post but I wouldn't make a post impossible. I have done it and I have had others do it. If you don't want to control the guards then you are going to have to give me room to have them post. Because Isa shouldn't have been able to grab Vlad at all unless he was right next to him. And then the guards would have tranqed him as soon as his hand touched Vlad. Which makes your last post completely impossible. He couldn't have twisted away from Lucifer or pounced on Vlad.

[Tracyarmav]

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Actually that isn't true. It would limit your post but I wouldn't make a post impossible. I have done it and I have had others do it. If you don't want to control the guards then you are going to have to give me room to have them post. Because Isa shouldn't have been able to grab Vlad at all unless he was right next to him. And then the guards would have tranqed him as soon as his hand touched Vlad. Which makes your last post completely impossible. He couldn't have twisted away from Lucifer or pounced on Vlad.

@KatherinWinter

Okay two things

1: Isa was in fact right next to Vlad.

2: Tranquilizer isn't magic, it takes several MINUTES to knock a creature out, it isn't like the movies where it knocks them out instantly. Even IF Isa is immediately shot with tranquilizer darts as soon as he starts shifting, He'd still have time to spin away from Lucifer and jump on a prone Vlad, though he would be well on his way to taking a nap once there.

[KatherinWinter]

Ahhh, I prefer you run the guards, and was posting under the assumption that you were. Sorry for the confusion.

@Tracyarmav

Then we're screwed because you never leave me room to have them react. It should have gone
1. Isa grabbed Vlad
2. Guards tranq Isa
3. Lucifer grabs Isa
4. Guards tranq Lucifer
5. Everyones goes to there room.

I think it's your if's that are throwing me off. I have never had anyone do that. I assume those are actions not future actions. Because If they are future actions you have to post them twice. Once staying what might happen and once for what actually happened.

[KatherinWinter]

@Tracyarmav
I know it isn't instant but it should be close. His shifting should take a couple of minutes as well. I figure five to 10 minutes depending on the amount of control and practice. I have Roxy at about half an hour for a full change and she has had her DNA longer then anyone.

[Tracyarmav]

@KatherinWinter May I propose a time skip to the next day then please?

Yes, the future actions have to be posted twice, however it gives those around me a better picture of how I plan for my character to react to the world around him. And most times the world doesn't do what I expect it to, so the "if/thens" get interrupted, which helps show a flow of time, and the actions of my second post build off of the differences in my expectations and reality.

I will attempt to forgo the use of "if/thens" in the future if you like.

[Tracyarmav]

@Tracyarmav
I know it isn't instant but it should be close. His shifting should take a couple of minutes as well. I figure five to 10 minutes depending on the amount of control and practice. I have Roxy at about half an hour for a full change and she has had her DNA longer then anyone.

@KatherinWinter

Ahhh, I was not thinking anything close to that long, I had a max of a two minutes in my head. My bad, sorry for screwing this up so bad. >.<

Out of curiosity why have the changes take so long? That would be a distinct disadvantage on the battlefield later...

[KatherinWinter]

@Tracyarmav
First you are fairly new to changing.
Second you are teenagers
Third even with hours of practice you don't have complete control.

Remember that you have only been in the program a few months. Less then a year for most. I would say about six month. Teens aren't focused. They have a lot of hormones that would slow the process. Anger could slow changing or speed it up. If you use it to trigger a change then you have to use it every time for the first year until you figure out how to use other things to trigger the change.

[KatherinWinter]

@KatherinWinter May I propose a time skip to the next day then please?

Yes, the future actions have to be posted twice, however it gives those around me a better picture of how I plan for my character to react to the world around him. And most times the world doesn't do what I expect it to, so the "if/thens" get interrupted, which helps show a flow of time, and the actions of my second post build off of the differences in my expectations and reality.

I will attempt to forgo the use of "if/thens" in the future if you like.

@Tracyarmav

We need to wait for Hailey.

The problem I am seeing is that it could become confusing. Take your attack post Clever girls to distract the guards, while I'm standing here so wonderfully close to Vlad. I had turned to watch Dallas and Roxy approach the tables of knives, and in so doing stepped a little closer the vile man, apparently unaware of his proximity. A quick step back as Roxy threw her blades, put me behind and to one side of Vlad, he saw me stepping back I think, he tried to turn and face me. I had shifted my upper torso and head already, and bit at his neck, grabbing at his shoulders with my paws. If the weasel didn't dive to the floor, I'd have his neck in my jaws, and then it'd be a matter of time before his neck was broken, I probably wouldn't even have to try, the tazers would do the trick for me. If he did dive to the floor, I'd bring my paws down on his unprotected ribs, since human instinct would protect his head and neck, trying to crush his ribs and the organs beneath them. By now the guards would likely be attacking me, I just hoped the other three would make it out okay.

Here is what I would have liked to post:
Clever girls to distract the guards, while I'm standing here so wonderfully close to Vlad. I had turned to watch Dallas and Roxy approach the tables of knives, and in so doing stepped a little closer the vile man, apparently unaware of his proximity.VLAD WAS AWARE OF ISA AND SO WERE SOME OF THE GUARDS THEY WATCHED HIM WARILY.(Vlad is very aware of his personal space. Most people are) A quick step back Guards that noticed the move took aim so that they could be ready to take the teen out if they needed to.as Roxy threw her blades, put me behind and to one side of Vlad, he saw me stepping back I think, he tried to turn and face me(Controlling but I over look it). I had shifted my upper torso and head already Guards take aim. They had been told to shoot if the teens transfer without permission., and bit at his neck,Guards shot tranqs at Isa. They know that they might hit Vlad but that was a risk they were willing to take. They couldn't allow the scientist to day on their watch. grabbing at his shoulders with my pawsSoldier taz Isa just to get the transforming boy away from the scientist. (my last post with Vlad drapping) If the weasel didn't dive to the floor, I'd have his neck in my jaws, and then it'd be a matter of time before his neck was broken, I probably wouldn't even have to try, the tazers would do the trick for me. If he did dive to the floor, I'd bring my paws down on his unprotected ribs, since human instinct would protect his head and neck, trying to crush his ribs and the organs beneath them. By now the guards would likely be attacking me, I just hoped the other three would make it out okay. Isa is hit with several tranqs and atleast two tazers.