[OOC] The Sun Will Never Set (Reboot)

[ZB1996]

In all likelihood I'll probably be basing my population off of Moravia's.

[Cyclone]

In all likelihood I'll probably be basing my population off of Moravia's.

@ZB1996

Having much more land than Zenovia, more infrastructure developed than pretty much anyone over the past two centuries, and having a history of centuries of prosperity (although plenty of war to prevent the population from exploding too much) makes me think that the Commonwealth would almost certainly be far larger than Zenovia. Really, the PRK is the only nation that I can see having reason to boast a bigger population, and even then if it's like its real world parallel the USSR, then it's surprisingly rural and low in population for its size whereas Moravia is somewhat dense in a lot of parts.

That's not counting fairyland of course, with SEVEN BILLION people

[ZB1996]

@Cyclone

Well, I wasn't intending it too be close to Moravia's population, only about 50/60 percent. My goal is my population to be large enough to actually have the manpower to sustain a long-term war. My population is only 25 million at the moment.

[Cyclone]

@Cyclone

Well, I wasn't intending it too be close to Moravia's population, only about 50/60 percent. My goal is my population to be large enough to actually have the manpower to sustain a long-term war. My population is only 25 million at the moment.

@ZB1996

Makes sense.

[Voltus_Ventus]

Gah! I had to read four pages and yes @Brink_ your claim is fine, start work on a sheet.

[ZB1996]

@Voltus_Ventus

I can't remember, were rockets approved or not?

[Willy Vereb]

Would it be possible to control a dual monarchy? If so, I present to you the Mont-Levan Commonwealth.

@Brink_

I may be just a bit blind in the morning but I can't see your territory claim here.

[ZB1996]

@Willy Vereb
Could it perhaps be that patch of land rich below your "Canadian" colonies?

[Voltus_Ventus]

@Voltus_Ventus

I can't remember, were rockets approved or not?

@ZB1996

When you say rockets, do you mean like V1s and V2s or things like Katyushas? Because I won't allow V1s and V2s just yet.

[Willy Vereb]

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When you say rockets, do you mean like V1s and V2s or things like Katyushas? Because I won't allow V1s and V2s just yet.

@Voltus_Ventus

I thought my airship launched flying bombs were approved.
Oh well, let's modify them into rocket powered bombs.
Basically, I have the same flight controls as before using gyroscope and radio assisted guidance to find targets. Launched from airships it has the effective range of 70km and carries 1000 pounds of explosives.
Each is estimated to cost about 900A (Yllendthyr's currency) while a simple bomb with similar payload would cost 150A.
While uneconomical Yllendthyr continues to use these in hopes of a cleaner warfare.

[Isotope]

I mean, the V1 was a 1944 weapon and is a bit advanced.

That said, things like the Kettering Bug existed as early as WW1, so there is nothing inherently wrong with cruise weapons. Which means the controversy here is centered on the propulsion type, or the pulse jet engine.

So all things said, Yylledenwhatever already has very primitive mid/late 1930's level jets which means strapping one of the engines to a bomb can't be that hard.

So given the V-1's flaws were... Numerous... I don't really see an issue with it, given the highly limited utility.

It is up to Volyus, of course, just my two cents on the matter.

[Cyclone]

I intend to finish my sheet this weekend. In the meantime, poor time management has left me utterly swamped with work.

[Meiyuuhi]

I'll probably go for something like 275 million people, just a bit more than Moravia.

[Willy Vereb]

I mean, the V1 was a 1944 weapon and is a bit advanced.

That said, things like the Kettering Bug existed as early as WW1, so there is nothing inherently wrong with cruise weapons. Which means the controversy here is centered on the propulsion type, or the pulse jet engine.

So all things said, Yylledenwhatever already has very primitive mid/late 1930's level jets which means strapping one of the engines to a bomb can't be that hard.

So given the V-1's flaws were... Numerous... I don't really see an issue with it, given the highly limited utility.

It is up to Volyus, of course, just my two cents on the matter.

@Isotope

The v1 missiles weren't even really advanced. They were just very primitive suicide robot planes. And by robot I mean the kind of basic automaton which only follows a single program it was planted with just prior to launch. No course corrections or anything. There's a reason why V1 missiles were madly inaccurate.
As for mine I use the guidance beams which German bombers relied on in order to find their targets even at night. You may read about this with the topic of "war of beams" where radio guidance methods were attempted to be countered by British jamming attempts.
And the British were largely successful.
I don't have much evidence but I feel the gyroscope-guided V1 was also sorts of a F-you to the British jammers. That and the end product was quite damn cheap overall which allowed the Germans to pretty much spam them. that and without the need of guidance they could weave away many of the technical barriers at the time which is why V1 could travel that far.
At the time radio guidance was fairly limited an would've required huge stations.

[Isotope]

@Voltus_Ventus I did an edit on my sheet, I think it's all done save the history (which is still in the PP)

[Meiyuuhi]

@Voltus_Ventus

I put my sheet up on the character tab, let me know if anything is strange or out of bounds. I added the history that Cyclone, Isotope and I agreed to as well. Should be finished.

[Voltus_Ventus]

@Voltus_Ventus

I put my sheet up on the character tab, let me know if anything is strange or out of bounds. I added the history that Cyclone, Isotope and I agreed to as well. Should be finished.

@Mihndar

What is the energy output of Fyrurock? Joules per cm^3 or grams.

[Willy Vereb]

@Voltus_VentusDoes your silence mean my flying bomb concept is accepted?
It worths noting that my rocket-propelled bombs (wow, I may make that name official) aren't really guided weapons in the typical sense.
The forward observers spot a target and the radio equipment sets a guiding beam towards that point. To travel the whole 70 kilometers the rocket would need over 5 minutes. It rides the beam and with a rough accuracy explodes at the designated area.
This is an area bombing measure and cannot be used to target tanks or warships (unless there's a guarantee they sit still for that long).
Basically this is rocket-based artillery.
Would it be fine?



EDIT:
Did further research on the topic and the "mithril-made rocket V-1" would have the range of 80km and unlike the supplied picture above it'd be more compact, around 3.9m long.
My rocket engine would be a variation of this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_HWK_109-500

[Skepic]

Aka, flying torpedos. Am I right?

Also, I am alive, how bout that? XD

[Willy Vereb]

Aka, flying torpedos. Am I right?

@Skepic

Well, combination of the Ketering Bug, rocket-assisted takeoff units and radio navigation systems.
But yeah, basically they're big flying bombs designed to be launched from airships which also have the equipment to provide the guiding radio beam for the weapon.
This method kind of works albeit the fact these things are 7 times more expensive than normal bombs and your options are limited to the largest type of bomb regardless the mission are forcing me to be more careful at the use of these.

I don't call them flying torpedoes because sinking ships is the last thing they can do. While riskier even the use of plain old big bombs is better at that job.