[OOC] Of Life, Love, and Death

[Love Dove]

Yeah, I'll change it.

Edit: Is that better?

[ravenhuffle]

Ah! I think creating a site would be fun, but I have no HTLM skills to speak of! lol

By the way, I absolutely loved your post! Not sure what she is going to do not that he is in the tree though....

It is better, thank you ^.^ Also, if you still want to use a red-like color you can, just make it dark like a crimson. Sorry about having to ask you to change it... :(

[Love Dove]

The site is through Proboards. Yeah me either really, she did the design and everything. Lol. I just helped pick out little things.

Thank you. Well he is going to come down, he just wants to see what she'll do. If you need me to I can add him coming down.

Okay good :) oh no it's fine. I have another character with red so it isn't a big deal to me hun.

[ravenhuffle]

I love proboards, it is the easiest site to work with ^.^

Oh, no! You do not have to make him come down. I am torn between having her try to knock the tree down, just wait, or fake an injury so that he would come check on her. Not sure what I want her to do yet. xD

What are your thoughts on hybrids?

[Love Dove]

It is a really good site :}

Either one of those three will wait well. Because he isn't gonna want to wait in a tree. And he would come down if he thinks he is the one that hurt her.

Hmm it depends. What kind of hybrids are we talking about?

[ravenhuffle]

I am going to have to get clever if I want her to land a hit on Devin. Some kind of sly move. What does his healing look like? If she bit him, would it last a while or disappear quickly like hers does?

A mix between vampire and werewolf. A creature that has the best of both species. I'm not exactly sure how it would look. I am still trying to think up a reason for their strong connection....

For Ciara and Adam, their connection is coming from the Yin and Yang. I am trying to decide if we should create a reason behind Avina and Devin's connection. I just feel like their connection is more then just romantic. Am I making sense?

[Love Dove]

Hehe I cant wait to see what sly move you come up with. His healing is almost as quick as hers wound wise, though the pain would last a little longer. Not much but longer than hers does, because his kind aren't as used to pain as hers.

Oh okay yeah, I'm fine with vampire werewolf hybrids. Though I'm not really sure how we would be able to turn them into hybrids this far in. Unless you have an idea or meant something else. But yeah I think their connection is more than romantic for sure.

[ravenhuffle]

I'm in bed on my phone. I shall reply in the morning. ^.^

Good night, dearie! (You know you're a Once fan when you say "dearie" in Rumpels voice!)

[Love Dove]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who heard that in his voice :} Night dearie!

[ravenhuffle]

Okay, I am just making sure that she bite him or throw him around without actually permanently injuring him.

I'm not sure yet if I like the idea rolling around in my head. But basically they are meant to turn each other into hybrids and start a whole new species. Again, not really sure if I like this idea...

[Love Dove]

Oh yeah he can take being bitten and thrown around a little bit. Don't worry.

Hmm that would be very interesting, given your rules on Werewovles and mine on Vampires. It would take some ironing out, especially who would turn who first. It would be difficult to turn either one I think. As Avina has more blood than normal humans and Devin is already dead. Though I'm not sure if being alive matters with your wolves?

I would imagine the change of being a hybrid would be painful for Devin. Because I figure his heart would start beating again. But it would be interesting to see how he deals with it.

Edit: Sorry I'm not being much help, I woke with a headache and its making it hard to think strait.

[ravenhuffle]

Good to know! ^.^

There would be aspects of how our hybrids would work that need fine tuning, but it is doable. Again though, I am not really sure what I think of this idea. I feel like I am putting too much thought into it rather then just letting an idea spark.

As far as how they would change, and who would change first, would depend upon how our hybrids worked. Would they have a beating heart like a wolf or a cold one like a vamp. I would say being aline is important to being a wolf mostly because their change comes from breaking bones and tearing muscles only to rebuild in a different form. The rebuilding would need live cells I would think.

What are you think of this idea? Would it be a good reason behind their strong bond? If it is not the reason behind the bond, and we still like the idea then we can always use it latter in the story.

I'm sorry to hear about your head. I totally understand how a headache can be crippling. :( I hope you feel better soon!

[Love Dove]

Yes I agree it is very doable. We would just have to figure it all out.

As for the heart part, I think it should still be beating. Though we could make it where it beats faster than normal, or slower whichever way we want to go. Because for the change it would make sense that living cell would be needed. Plus like I said the idea of a vampire all of the sudden would be interesting to see.

I do like the idea very much, it could be fun to play with. Though I agree it might not be the best idea for their bond, fate is always a cause for a strong bond. So it could work, of course there could be more then one reason that they have a strong bond and the hybrid thing could be one of them.

And thank you, it's starting to ease up a bit. :}

[ravenhuffle]

I think a faster heart beat would be more interesting. Plus, the faster heart beat would mean that they would need more blood thus the vampire part coming in. What would you think of them being able to change into wolves like a normal werewolves but would keep the vampire eyes and the vampire teeth just thicker? So even in wolf form, they could take blood. The harder part would be mashing the instincts of a vampire with a werewolf.

I agree! I think I am going to leave the bond thing alone for now. Though I think meshing them into hybrids could be really fun and would fit in well with what I have planned with the Marrok. ^.^

I'm glad you are starting to feel better :)

[Love Dove]

I think the turning to a normal werewolf but with the eyes and teeth of a vampire only wider would work out well. Though for the most part, other than their pupil turning black, red, and rarely white. They are just like human eyes. So if we did that, would they have to be in werewolf form to drink blood or would they be able to drink in human form too?

Yeah the meshing of instincts will be the hard part. Though I think the hybrid should have both the speed of a vampire and strength of a werewolf.

I agree, well I think I do. I don't know what you plan. But I'm excited! Lol

[ravenhuffle]

Going off the assumption that white eyes mean they are at their strongest, then how about we say their eyes are white when they are a wolf? That is an interesting idea, and kind of temping. Though if they can only feed in werewolf form, eating could become very messy. To start off with, they would not be able to compel their victims. Then their teeth would more like rip flesh rather then pierce it. Not to mention, if they are hungry and still have to go through the pain of change it could cause a very temperamental and uncontrollable wolf.

Yes, strength and speed for sure! A werewolves instinct revolves around dominance which is showed by strength and will power. Mostly will power. They also run on pack mentality, you fight as a pack, hunt as a pack, hurt as a pack, and live or die as a pack. Raw meat is was fuels them. Raw meat is to werewolf as blood is to vampire. Also, Alphas have what is called pack magic. This basically means that they have control over the pack, it is part of the pack magic willingly given to an alpha that makes less dominate wolves submit. If a wolf is being dissident, the alpha pulls on the pack magic to boost his or her dominance. It is pack magic that allows an alpha to bring a new wolf into the pack or help another wolf heal faster. It is pack magic that binds them all together and keeps order basically.

Why instinct make up a vampire? I am thinking we can just take the best of both worlds and put them together. And if it a struggle for either of them to adapt, then all the more fun! ^.^

[ravenhuffle]

POSTED! :D Sorry it is a little short, I don't want to make it any longer in fear of having Devin move somewhere that you would not move him to.

[Love Dove]

Actually white eyes are when they are submissive, there is no freedom in that moment or ability to resist what they are told, so no color. Exp. when Avina does dominate him, his eyes with go white, as will Violet's. Black is when they are strongest, they have no emotion and are calm which makes them stronger. Of course seeing that this is new breed it can be reversed.

Hmm that's true so maybe they can feed as human form but they aren't able to get as much as they need?

A vampires instinct revolves around freedom and greed versus control. Most of the time, freedom and greed being the stronger of the three. Vampires hunt and feed alone, because they are greedy when it comes to their food, or blood. Often the times which a vampire will kill another, it is caused by blood, and the lack of control that comes with the taste of it. The only two exceptions being in the case of a changeling, and a very well controlled older vampire. Changelings are just like newborns in the case they are often unable to lore their victim into the sense of calm needed to drink from them, and the Elder has to do it. Once they are strong enough they earn the freedom to hunt for themselves. The elder that changes them is often the one that makes them submit, and they have a mental connection with their changeling for the whole time they are alive. Until that vampire makes another, he or she lives with the elder. If one vampire kills another, by the laws they have to fight the first elder of that vampire for the right to live, unless the rare exception of taking their place is given.

That turned out longer than I thought it was going to xD But I think that's is the basics of it.

Edit: Awesome going to read!

[Love Dove]

It was a great post, I'm sure he will come down especially with the smell of her bleeding in the air.

[ravenhuffle]

Yeah, I like that idea! And feeding on humans would not get the raw meat that they need to survive also. This may mean that they will have to kill to survive because they will need human blood and any kind of raw meat.... Hmmm -evil smile- I think we should reverse the eye color, just because it would throw everyone off. Just imagine Devin's Elder coming after him and his eyes turn white. She then thinks she has him, only to find out she does not. Hehe!

So, I took what we both said and made a list of each of the traits that make up werewolves and vampires according to how we made them. This is what I got.

Werewolf:
Dominance
Pack
Raw Meat
Pack Magic
Healing

Vampire:
Independence
Blood
Impulsion
Controlled by master

From here, I made a lit that should include everything about both monsters in one form or another. Take a look at the list and let me know what you think! ^.^

Hybrid:
Pack Mentality with greediness over food
Pack Magic (To be shared between Devin and Avina as equal alphas/masters)
*Note – This pack could either be the two of them until possibly more hybrids, or it could be a pack made of wolves and vampires. (The idea of vampires being able to be pulled into a pack could be interesting to explore.)
Strength of a wolf
Speed of a vamp
Impulsion
Blood
Raw Meat
Healing of self, as well as the ability to heal others by sacrificing their own blood

Yay! I was hoping he would come down for that! She has a big trick up her sleeve....