since posting evidence, or anything to prove my point is something I'm not suppose to do.
Oh come on now, be more gracious then that, nobody wants to talk to a salty libertarian. Youtubers aren't evidence. The problem with editorials is that they don't represent evidence, they represent another person making an argument. Those people might have evidence or they might not, but in a discussion like this throwing a bunch of editorials around is debate by attrition, especially when all you have to do is spend ten minutes finding more articles to throw at me. I don't have time to pour over four different articles, each one put together over the course of a longer time, and then to refute each one. Use evidence to back up claims surely, but if you are going to link something you are responsible for breaking down how that evidence is relevant and applying it to the discussion yourself. That's just how these things are done. I could have threw links willy nilly too and not explained my position, but that's not fun. This is supposed to be a brain exercise, man! It's not good enough to believe in a thing and dote helplessly on a few pundits, you gotta explain the guts of these things yourself. It's my opinion that if you can't defend the guts of a position yourself then shouldn't be publically supportive of it.
I just think most people WANT socialized medicine because they here the word "Free Healthcare" and go OH BOY FREE STUFF! And it's not free...someone is paying for it.
The problem with this argument (besides aristocratic overtones of "The peasants ask too much") is that economics isn't a zero sum game. Privatization is a byword to mean commodification, that's what we are talking about, and some things make piss-poor commodities. We all generally accept, for instance, that defense would make a piss poor commodity. When things go on the market, they become subject to the avarice of the market. Healthcare makes a poor commodity (or one reason at least) because the purchaser of healthcare is in a poor position to bargain. If you have cancer, you can't exactly decline from purchasing care. There was a decency to the traditional small town doctor, a man who would have been ran out of town on a rail if he had tried to overcharge, but who's abilities and equipment were ultimately limited, and who could be subjected easily to the competition that makes capitalism "function". But that age ended with technology and what amounts to the need for expensive capital to be a doctor in the modern world. There was an inevitability that the private healthcare system, through the inability of the public to bargain for their health, and through the conflict between insurance and the hospitals for the former to avoid paying out and the later to take as much as they can, that the commodification of healthcare would do what it did in the United States.
And it seems a little cruel to start threatening our Canadians friends with privatization. People need to sleep at night.
also imo that blog looks pretty biased, but it's not wrong in some places
The front page had an article about privatizing money. I believe I said something earlier about Austrian school being something that serious economists poke fun at even more than they do Marx? Well, this website declares itself Canada's leading Austrian economics educators. I was going to refute the article but there wasn't really anything to grab onto, since it is pretty much just a dude pointing to a chart and saying "Look guys, its scary, this is so many costs guys."
I again think most people are fine with the system itself, but if you mean they don't like how said system is managed, then yes, I agree. The problem comes mostly with how understaffed it is. Specialists and appointments take fooorreeevvveerrrr. I can't imagine just being able to walk into a doctor's office and getting a check-up. Obviously the ER isn't like that, but the concept of going to the doctor when your minorly sick is unthinkable. You'd get over your illness by the time you get in. Do Americans actually go to the doctor when they have a cold or the flu? Can you actually get a doctor's note for school?
Old people will go to the emergency room for a flu. In my experience, people usually go to cheap walk-in clinics to get doctors notes, since they are usually equipped for exactly those sort of trifling things. I don't know anybody who ever went to a doctor for a cold. It's rather American to brag about going to work while having a cold or a flu anyway.
I think the stat came out to be an average of $4k a year for an adult?
Imma go ahead and cut off at the pass any argument based on this and say that the US pays
8k per person for healthcare just in taxes. So that private system where we have to pay our bills and for insurance? That's also causing us to pay twice as much in taxes for healthcare than the Canadians do.
