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EDIT: I think Toun was referring to the sun god being a sun and sustaining life, but amputating a part of one's essence will certainly do the job for now.


Eh, he's not a sun just yet... ;) It will all be revealed soon enough.
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Right now, he's just dinner
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Right now, he's just dinner


Pretty tasty at that too :] You're missing out.
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Pretty tasty at that too :] You're missing out.


I'm sure he is, afterall I like my Gods... sunny side up

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I like my Gods... sunny side up



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And I thought my puns were terrible. What do you think now @Rtron
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I won't lie, I'm a bit confused by what is going on haha.


So far, all that's happened is that a 'blueprint' for the universe has been created and everyone is adding what they want to it. Effectively, we're 'customisng' the universe - so its not just going to be a default (i.e. RL) universe. You can add your own adjustments to it etc.
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Will Vowzra read the completed blueprint and make the Big Bang in accordance?


Of course, but we will need to hash out, OOCly, what the main differences are. I.e. what gods have added, what is different, how developed life will be at the beginning (e.g. it appears that we're going to have fully functioning planets from the start, but will we have sentient life already? Is that in the blue-print? Or will it just be the animal kingdom and plants? Will there be space-whales and more sinister horrors of chaos? etc.)
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Of course, but we will need to hash out, OOCly, what the main differences are. I.e. what gods have added, what is different, how developed life will be at the beginning (e.g. it appears that we're going to have fully functioning planets from the start, but will we have sentient life already? Is that in the blue-print? Or will it just be the animal kingdom and plants? Will there be space-whales and more sinister horrors of chaos? etc.)


I would like to comment on the sentience, as that is in my domain:

Vulamera would not have added sentience yet. Rather, she would have added the POTENTIAL for sentience to devolope naturally, over time, if the gods don't make it

Everyone agree with that? Or should I have Vulamera add it?
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There will be no life to start with, just a climate hospitable for life. It will take Slough's emergence and presence on a planet to get life started. Whatever things Vestec has created to move within the depths of space cannot be classified as true life, instead being autonomous, physical pockets of chaos.

It makes me really think of Bayonetta, actually. In that game series, the angels are vile and twisted eldritch creatures in shells of flawless gold and marble, in essence things purely organic but still not proper life. Demons, meanwhile, are vile and twisted creature-like machines of diabolic, hateful metal. 'Life' created by Toun or Vestec, for instance, without Slough's help, will probably take extreme forms such as these.

The kind of natural life that will colonize and thrive on planets will come ultimately from Slough, though other gods can disseminate it once it exists, which it will after the Big Bang has created a universe hospitable for it.

That's not to say that once the world exists and Slough's power has touched the planet, gods can't create life on their own, but until then (or afterward but independent of Slough's presence on a planet) gods cannot create real life.
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There will be no life to start with, just a climate hospitable for life. It will take Slough's emergence and presence on a planet to get life started. Whatever things Vestec has created to move within the depths of space cannot be classified as true life, instead being autonomous, physical pockets of chaos.

It makes me really think of Bayonetta, actually. In that game series, the angels are vile and twisted eldritch creatures in shells of flawless gold and marble, in essence things purely organic. Demons, meanwhile, are vile and twisted creature-like machines of diabolic, hateful metal. 'Life' created by Toun or Vestec, for instance, without Slough's help, will probably take extreme forms such as these.

The kind of natural life that will colonize and thrive on planets will come ultimately from Slough, though other gods can disseminate it once it exists, which it will after the Big Bang has created a universe hospitable for it.


So, if I understand you correctly, the Big Bang will create planets with the potential for life to develop and the right conditions, but no actual life yet. I.e. there would be oxygen, atmosphere, seas, volcanoes et al. but no living creatures of any kind, from the smallest germ to the largest whale/mammoth.
Does Slough not wish to add these things, correct the 'lifeless' things the others have planned for?
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So, if I understand you correctly, the Big Bang will create planets with the potential for life to develop and the right conditions, but no actual life yet. I.e. there would be oxygen, atmosphere, seas, volcanoes et al. but no living creatures of any kind, from the smallest germ to the largest whale/mammoth.
Does Slough not wish to add these things, correct the 'lifeless' things the others have planned for?


That's right. After all, the idea of chance alone developing such wondrous and orderly things as the symmetrical and organic structures of life is unimaginably improbable. It's like monkeys typing on typewriters trying to get Hamlet: it would take longer than the lifecycle of the universe for such a contrivance to occur by pure chance, and compared to the complexity of life, that's nothing. It is going to take a creator's touch to get the party started.

Slough's wishes don't matter so much. Her life will inevitably give rise to 'these things', but the 'lifeless' things the others have planned for need not be corrected even if she could. They're cool in their own right, and play a part on the grand scheme of things. Slough's natural life will exist, and so can the unnatural life of gods like Toun and Vestec.
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That's right. After all, the idea of chance alone developing such wondrous and orderly things as the symmetrical and organic structures of life is unimaginably improbable. It's like monkeys typing on typewriters trying to get Hamlet: it would take longer than the lifecycle of the universe for such a contrivance to occur by pure chance, and compared to the complexity of life, that's nothing. It is going to take a creator's touch to get the party started.

Slough's wishes don't matter so much. Her life will inevitably give rise to 'these things', but the 'lifeless' things the others have planned for need not be corrected even if she could. They're cool in their own right, and play a part on the grand scheme of things. Slough's natural life will exist, and so can the unnatural life of gods like Toun and Vestec.


Vulamera loves life, believe it or not, because it has the power to learn. Plus, without life, her domain is literally nothing at all

So you can bet she will be watching over Slough like a hawk, and taking advantage of that rot in his body.

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Pretty tasty at that too :] You're missing out.


Vestec is like *this* close from stopping by Vec and going 'Well, if you're really offering.' And having a sword ready.

And I thought my puns were terrible. What do you think now @Rtron


MY SOUL. IT BURNS MY SOUL.

As far as dealing with Vezec... well, I suppose a direct assault would buy a bit of time for you folks to finish. Will I have backup?




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Vulamera loves life, believe it or not, because it has the power to learn. Plus, without life, her domain is literally nothing at all

So you can bet she will be watching over Slough like a hawk, and taking advantage of that rot in his body.


And Vestec will stop by from time to time and add more and more corruption.

NICIEL CANNOT BE EVER VIGILANT ON SLOUGH. @Scarifar
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And Vestec will stop by from time to time and add more and more corruption.

NICIEL CANNOT BE EVER VIGILANT ON SLOUGH. @Scarifar


It's true that Vestec can continuously try to corrupt her, but it's not going to be easy. By trying to corrupt her in the infancy of her life, particularly after more benevolent gods beat him to the punch, he unintentionally inoculated her. If not for Toun's gift of perseverance and its associated rejection of entropy, Vestec would have been far more successful. Ull'Yang's gift has also given her a greater ability to recognize and resist bad influences.

Of course, Niciel's gift did not go as well as planned either. Despite her good intentions, she did in fact 'force' her power on Slough like Vestec had done, and Slough resisted her as well.
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Meh, Vestec likes a challenge.

Nothing can be too easy for anyone.
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@VecThat's not a bad pun. It's pretty good, actually. Tonnes of layers. Grown vs. groan, which itself relies on knowledge that a groan is something made in response to bad puns which this is talking about while also supposedly representing one!... Hell, I even found it kind of funny.

You want a bad pun? I could give you one. But you won't get one. Sorry. It's what you get for making a good pun and calling it bad.

That's your punishment.


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Of course, but we will need to hash out, OOCly, what the main differences are. I.e. what gods have added, what is different, how developed life will be at the beginning (e.g. it appears that we're going to have fully functioning planets from the start, but will we have sentient life already? Is that in the blue-print? Or will it just be the animal kingdom and plants? Will there be space-whales and more sinister horrors of chaos? etc.)


So is it at this stage that -- for example -- the magic of the material world might be added in, or should that be at the actual Big Bang?
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@VecThat's not a bad pun. It's pretty good, actually. Tonnes of layers. Grown vs. groan, which itself relies on knowledge that a groan is something made in response to bad puns which this is talking about while also supposedly representing one!... Hell, I even found it kind of funny.

You want a bad pun? I could give you one. But you won't get one. Sorry. It's what you get for making a good pun and calling you bad.

That's your punishment.


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Bloody hell, the better and deeper the pun the worse it gets.

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So is it at this stage that -- for example -- the magic of the material world might be added in, or should that be at the actual Big Bang?


All magical stuff is in the hands of the gods of magic. But the universe will not actually materially come into existence until Fate and Amul'Sharar place their energies into it
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@KhoI understand that the universe does not materially exist right now, but do we give it qualities when Fat and Amul'Sharar place their energies into it (and we go Big Bang), or right now by using the blue prints?
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