[OOC] New Dawn Rising

[Inkdrop]

@Monkeypantsthe idea is that the Cataclysm was so intense that much of that technology was lost. We have the ideas, maybe, but the manufacturing, knowledge, and raw resources need to be gained again.

[Sigma]

@Monkeypants
As for the date, well, uh. Anarchy can do bad shit to civilization :p

If it makes it better and sense, what about say the late 21st Century being the Fall?

Edit: Or what Ink said.

[Monkeypants]

@Inkdrop You do realize that pretty much every single person in America have cell phones. and I can't see that changing in the future.

I mean, it really doesn't matter but something that small allows for some high end advancements for anyone that is irresponsible! :D (Maybe an evil Hydra paragon comes into fruition...)

[Isotope]

Monkey, continents getting carved up here.

Every power source was smoked, all the phones died, then they disintegrated over the centuries since the disaster. They don't exist save in the rare circumstances one was preserved, and even then they would be inoperable.

Also if it isn't publicly known then as fellow constitutional monarchies we'd probably get along, if not have religious disagreements.

[Willy Vereb]

Also people here keep saying nukes, but nukes dont carve up continents folks. Its been a thousand plus years, civilization was totally reset and sent back to the stone age the planet over by god knows what.

@Isotope

Yeah, let's stop thinking about this as a twenty minutes in the future kind of apocalypse. Nobody knows what happened here. Hell, it's possible we are all part of a long term experiment by our more advanced peers in order to observe the development of "ancient" civilizations.
Anything is possible. And again, 50s X-punk tech can give you tons of leeway with solutions. Basically any crazy tech people were thinking in the 50s is possible here as well as accomplishing a few modern tech with less advanced basis. Because why the hell not? Steampunk, dieselpunk and so on is all about anachronism.

[Nerevarine]

Middle Kingdom of the Great Han

Government Type:
Constitutional Monarchy with Academic Aristocracy - The original founders of the Great Han were classicists from Hong Kong and Guangzhou. They established an aristocracy based around the ideals of the era that they studied, both out of devotion to their own ideals, and the creation of an educated elite to increase their own value and power within the society they were creating. As well, to revive and invoke the image of the Golden Age of the Han Dynasty that the Classicists were trying to emulate, as well as delegitimize and kill the specter of Communism left over from the of the People's Republic, they created a ceremonial Emperor. His purpose is to look nice, and give legitimacy to the actions of the Aristocrats. Chinese Supremacy is a driving force in the Ideas of the Council's laws and plans, as is the sinicization of their lands.

Head(s) of Government:
The Council of Gentlemen - This is the Assembly of the Chosen Officials picked out of the Academic Nobility. They are the highest ranking members of those who take the exam for Consulship. They hold all the true power in the Empire, speaking through the Emperor, and using him as a substitute for public retaliation when their decisions end up badly. They operate under strict Confucian Ideals, and just like in the old days, an education in Confucianism, as well as Classics, is required for high office. All who enter the Council add a Generational Name to their current name; the names are chosen to create a massive poem.

The Emperor - A puppet of the Council, the Emperor is officially the supreme ruler in the Great Han, however, the Royal Family is at the mercy of the Council, who hold all real power in the nation, and may depose of the Emperor, and possibly his entire family line, if he becomes a problem for them.

Persons of Importance:
Emperor Yáo Xiùlán (Regnial Name: Xiang Jia)- Emperor Xiùlán is the 44th Emperor of the Yáo family, the 5th Dynasty of the Great Han. Currently 22 years of age, comming to the throne after the assassination of his father, Yáo Yǒng, Emperor Yáo is truly an image of subservience, being totally controlled by the demands of the Council. He shows little life in his public appearances, appears to suffer from sever depression and listlessness, and as such is kept out of the public eye as much as possible.

Race(s):
Han Chinese - Han Chinese are the namesake people of the Great Han, the ones who the Founders claimed were chosen to go out and civilize the ruined world. The Han make up approximately 90% of the Population of the Great Han. They are centered around the area of the Chinese Sea, the Major Islands and Peninsulas of the sea. As well, they are the major colonizing force in the outlying Islands in the Malay Peninsula and Indonesia.

Koreans - Koreans are native to the area of the Korean Peninsula and into Manchuria. They're a major minority, and were one of the first people to be conquered by the Great Han's attacks. The Koreans were scattered across the country in a series of Deportations, in an attempt to sinify them. As such, they can be found pretty much everywhere, including colonies. The still do, however, make up the Majority in Korea.

Vietnamese - Vietnamese refers to all people who are native to the area of Former Vietnam. Like the Koreans, the Vietnamese were also scattered across the Great Han in a series of Mass Deportations. However, unlike the Koreans, the displacement of the Vietnamese was more thorough, and they are now a minority even in their own homelands. The largest Vietnamese community is currently in Taiwan, where many were sent to during the 2nd Deporation.

Mongols - The native people of the Mongolian Rim, which comprises a good portion of the North of the Great Han. The Mongols were also subject to forced migration and settlement.

Burmese and Bengalis - Burmese and Bengalis are the people of the westernmost portion of the Great Han. They are two very destinct people, having been forced into a single province. Hostilities between the two have grown exponentially. Some suggest that the action taken towards the Bengalis and Burmese was intentionally done to lower their numbers, and then displace them through Deportation later in time.

Malays - Malays are the native people in The Malay Peninsula and Indonesia. The Han policy towards them has been displacement and seizure of their lands. As such, Malays are often driven out of their homes, forced to integrate into Chinese society, or are taken as servants by colonizers.

Filipinos - Filipinos are a rather recently encountered people. Their nations have largely been annexed or vassalized by Chinese, but many remain out of their reach. Like Malays, Filipinos are usually displaced or forced to integrate.

Mutants and Yāo Guài - Mutants describes all people who have undergone changes to their physique following generational exposure to things such as radiation, as well as descendants of failed experiments. Mutants are distinct from Yao Guai in that, Mutants are descented of, and still recognizable as Humans, while Yao Guai are more animal than they are human, even if they originally come from Human Stock. They are usually either very intelligent animals who arose out of mutation, or degenerated humans. Yao Guai almost never show human level intelligence, but they are noticeably more capable of higher thought then most animals. Mutants exist in society, but have been subject to abuses and mass genocide attempts throughout their existance. Yao Guai are not considered people, and are exterminated on sight.

Population:
57,671,400

Culture and Religion:
China was hit hard by the collapse of Society. Many areas degenerated back far into the past, while less developed areas could fall back to pre-industrial level technology or even tribal organization. Major cities were hit, and the rise of sea levels washed away several important places in China. Despite this, the Chinese still maintain links to their pre-Cataclysmic lifestyle in many ways. Remnants of old literature, even more modern books and stories. However, the society being founded, and artificially selected to adhere to their ideas of an idealized 2nd Century nation, have sought to revive ideas of Classical Chinese society, such as Confucianism, Aristocracy, and the traditional social hierarchy, with some minor tweaks to work in a more modern society. As such, the Council has largely enacted laws to encourage traditional Chinese social norms, as dictated by their academic sources on the old world, and to purge alien ideals from the Pre-Cataclysmic West, and of Conquered people.

There is no official religion dictated of the state. Traditional Chinese Religion predominates, as do evolutions of Islam and Christianty among some Han sub-ethnic divisions. Christianity is strong among Koreans. In line with the demonization of the policies of the Council has officially outlawed atheism, which is punishable by prison time.

Pre-Cataclyism Technology: Among the things that the Chinese had preserved and rediscovered was the use of engines and motors, as well as Marine Technology. As a result of knowing this from an early time, the Chinese have developed very efficient, and powerful engines, capable of use in vehicles, farming equipment, war machines, and most importantly, in boats. Engines and motors from the Great Han are widely known as the best of the best, with great efficiency, power, use of easy to obtain fuels, and easy assembly. As well, their boats have been crafted from preserved modern designs, into perfect vessels for traversing the ocean. Chinese Vehicles have sped up their conquests, and their sea-craft are instrumental in their task of colonizing the Islands in the Oceans.

Military:
Land Military - The Imperial Army is designed for conquests. It is a large army, outfited with the best rifles that the nation can create, and strong vehicles such as tanks, and artillery to destroy any defenses their enemies can throw at them. Many members of the Military actually come from Conquered people, who are conscripted and promised a good retirement if they can survive. As well, the Army is tasked with Anti-Aircraft duties, and has gotten good at it, due to the non-existance of the Imperial Airforce.

Imperial Navy - The Crown Jewel of the Great Han, the invincible Imperial Navy. The Armada is arguably the most advanced display of Naval Technology in the world. Built for swift movement and hard hits, the Imperial Navy is crucial to the power of the Han's plans of colonization and Marine Dominance.

Other: n/a

@Sigma

[Sigma]

@Isotope@Monkeypants
What, no cold war in badlands? :P

Although the army of monsters popping from the underground(totally original, I know :P) would be more of a concern.

[Isotope]

I foresee a cold war if the NAU doesn't stop and think about how silly its morals are ad just help me with the extermination already.

:P

[Monkeypants]

This is how the cellphones were exterminated during the war. Mass paranoia by a Michael Moore descendant film maker caused people to believe the phones were implanting crazy communist thoughts in ones head. All is resolved.



Anyways, I reworked my pre-war tech. I am not going to really make a specific thing due to the various possible existing things. I mean, America is very uniform in technologies available across the nation. By all intents and purposes, Iso you could pretty much copy mine lol.

Anywho, On the subject of friends. both sides would highly benefit from being friendly as it'd offer stability to the very obviously crazy interior.

I foresee a cold war if the NAU doesn't stop and think about how silly its morals are ad just help me with the extermination already.

:P

@Isotope

Hey, the morals aren't really a religion pre se' its just the closest thing they have to one. Kindof like hippies and world peace stuff.

[Isotope]

Cascadia******

[Monkeypants]

You know, when I wrote that I looked at it twice.. kept thinking something was wrong too...

[Monkeypants]

@Isotope@Monkeypants
What, no cold war in badlands? :P

Although the army of monsters popping from the underground(totally original, I know :P) would be more of a concern.

@Sigma

I propose this as a counter

[Willy Vereb]

BTW, how are we supposed to stop the development of nukes?
Nuclear research is the essence of many technologies. Can't we just go for the typical deterrence strategy and look out for bombers?
We can also say that there's an active pre-war defense network in space which shoots down anything over a certain altitude (no ICBMs although no satellites, either).

Alternatively if we want pre-war space network then just say there's an intelligent system which plants retribution against anyone using nuclear weapons or anything reaching the destructive power of the Fat Man or slightly below. Also shoots down spacecrafts trying to explore space in earnest.
If we have BS prewar tech then may as well turn it into a real boogieman.

[Sigma]

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@Monkeypants

*pop out and takes a look* "......Nope!" *Goes pack to factory*
Hmm, thinking on it, should I rather make the grogar a single faction? Or just divide them up?

Thinking back and forth if they should be the infighting types.

[Willy Vereb]

@SigmaWhat do you think of my take on nukes?
And which of the two solutions sound the best?

BTW, how are we supposed to stop the development of nukes?
Nuclear research is the essence of many technologies. Can't we just go for the typical deterrence strategy and look out for bombers?
We can also say that there's an active pre-war defense network in space which shoots down anything over a certain altitude (no ICBMs although no satellites, either).

Alternatively if we want pre-war space network then just say there's an intelligent system which plants retribution against anyone using nuclear weapons or anything reaching the destructive power of the Fat Man or slightly below. Also shoots down spacecrafts trying to explore space in earnest.
If we have BS prewar tech then may as well turn it into a real boogieman.

@Willy Vereb

[Monkeypants]

<Snipped quote by Monkeypants>
*pop out and takes a look* "......Nope!" *Goes pack to factory*
Hmm, thinking on it, should I rather make the grogar a single faction? Or just divide them up?

Thinking back and forth if they should be the infighting types.

@Sigma

Well if the grogar are as I remember, various groups fighting for resources would make sense should you go that route. Humans stuck in the middle either taking sides or getting pillaged.

[Sigma]

@Willy Vereb I do like the idea of some sort of Orbital Defense System shooting down nukes if they were launched. Kinda keeps warfare conventional to an extent.

[Sigma]

@Monkeypants Sounds good. Although they'll be a bit different then their fantasy counterparts.

[Willy Vereb]

@Willy Vereb I do like the idea of some sort of Orbital Defense System shooting down nukes if they were launched. Kinda keeps warfare conventional to an extent.

@Sigma

I thought more along the lines of an intelligent killsat system striking the origin nation of the nucelar attack. That sounds even more like a deterrent. Of course the advanced sensors and AI make it virtually infallible in its judgement (so by storyline purposes it never makes mistakes). It sounds like a terrible enough deterrent that after the first few failures worldwide nobody is crazy enough to work on WMDs in this setting.

[Sigma]

@Willy Vereb Ah, I see. That ought to be a more efficient deterrent, yes :P