ACPM

Political Standing of the RoleplayGuild.

Also I got 9.85 on left. Suck it, @ACPM. I'm the most left of all the leftists here so far.

@Keyguyperson

Compensating for something? ;)

Regarding the ancap/anarchist issue, I've never actually encountered Ancaps outside of these kind of forums and YouTube. Actual Anarchists, however, do seem to be on the front line of most disputes. The Anarchist Federation in the UK tends to be doing some good work with housing co-operatives and the Anarchist movement in France and Greece is pretty badass. While not Anarchist as such, the PKK and the Kurds in Rojava follow a very libertarian socialist economic structure.

I wouldn't really claim that Anarcho-capitalism is Anarchism as such, to be completely honest. To be an Anarchist, you must reject all elements of rulers. This might be fine in an era of capitalism where people worked in mills but now we work in factories. Industrial economics are complicated and therefore require some form of authority to co-ordinate the complex movements. In order to be a capitalist, that person must necessarily be the owner of the means of production. However, this is a ruler, by definition. Anarchists reject centralised command, yet capitalist businesses are centralised necessarily.

Political Standing of the RoleplayGuild.

@Dynamo Frokane

I can't say I know much about Molyneux but I can't say I agree with him on anything from what I do know. I don't know whether I'd like him or not as a person though.

Political Standing of the RoleplayGuild.

If you're still doing this -9.5, -5.08

I'm currently reading around democratic confederalism, currently an Anarcho-Syndicalist with Marxist tendencies

The king is dead, long live the king! [Reboot]

I'd be interested, if you're still wanting people.

God and Country - A low-fantasy renaissance NRP of religion and discovery

I would definitely be interested in something like this given the period seems to be reflective of one in which I study as part of my course. Small problem being that I actually need to finish that course via an exam at some point in the coming weeks and I'd rather focus on that. Would there still be a space open in three weeks or so? If not that's completely fine, cheers.

Have you ever changed your mind about one of those big issues?

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10/10, accounts first post is discussing the differences in socialism and capitalism, in spam.

What a way to start.

@Derpestein

If that was such a good first impression for you I'll try the same topic the next time I go to a party...

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Who wants to bet he signed up merely to plug into the argument because he somehow happened to find the debate?

@Dinh AaronMk

I'd already made an account but apart from that, pretty much. I'm a pedantic arsehole.

@Vilageidiotx

"In theory, though I suppose you could argue that in practice social democracy is socialism since it's as close as we've ever came at this point in our development"

If we're being pure in our examples:
Paris Commune 1871
Free Territories of Ukraine 1918-21
Catalonia 1936-39
Rojava 2012-present

But you could even argue that, at some points, China under Mao and Russia under Lenin and Stalin were socialist. While Lenin did move to state capitalism as a intermediate measure, they were controlled democratically by democratic centralisation of the means of production.

"Real free market economics is ridiculously unstable and unworkable, anytime we get close to putting it in practice damaging bubbles always arise"

I wouldn't disagree with your analysis but I think when most sane people mean free market economics they refer to the state not being involved in any subsidies/tarrifs rather than simply not enforcing private property which would lead to the destruction of the system.

"we've never really had a worker-controlled economy on a large scale "

See examples above. While they didn't last long, this is largely because the entire forces of reactionaries (and Bolsheviks) were ranged against them.

Morning all

Hi, so this is kind of a relapse into RPing for me. I used to RP a little a few years ago but I haven't really since. I also stopped writing for fun which is never good so hopefully this will kickstart me into doing something productive with my life...

By the time I'll actually be active, I'll have left college (I don't know what that is for the US but it's the stage before university for us in the UK) so that should give you an indication of my age.

Regarding setting, I prefer low-fantasy, or at least something which has a basis in reality. That's not to say I automatically dismiss the idea of elves and magic (if done well, it can really be done well) but I generally prefer gritty, well established and often reflective of the real world (if not actually set in the real world).

The characters I like (or would like to, if I had more skill) to RP are likeably imperfect. I don't really see myself, or my characters, as huge heroes leading the forefront into battle, more of a guy who sits on the side occasionally snarking and coming up with good ideas. However, since that's my norm I might try and go a little out of the box.

Plotlines, I quite like not knowing what's going to happen. Or at least, I like having to guess what is going to happen should I do X or Y and knowing that either could be right or wrong. Genre-wise, I quite like adventure and political stories.

Interests outside of RP (though I'd love to discuss) are politics, philosophy, drinking, history, drinking again and pretending that I know about the aforementioned items.

So yeah, any questions just hit me up either in the comments or across a PM. I may even reply...

Have you ever changed your mind about one of those big issues?

EDIT: Also, how does "Socialism vs. Capitalism" even make sense as a "vs."? I don't understand this. It's an American thing I think. Extreme Socialism and extreme Capitalism are arguably opposing, purely because the absolute extremes of both require absolute power in differing places, but you can very easily be a socialist capitalist state. Many countries are. The absolute extremes are absolutely irrelevant, as they usually are in any issue.

@Halo

I think what you're referring to would be classed as social democracies. Socialism is a system in which the means of production, exchange and distribution are controlled by the workers. Capitalism is a system in which the said means are controlled by an individual. They are qualitatively different, in the same way a square and a triangle are qualitatively different (you cannot have a triangle with some square properties). Social democracy is simply a form of capitalism which prefers to use Keynesian economics rather than perhaps more libertarian economics.