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Point of No Return (Extreme Great Depression Alternate History)

My apologizes heavily about not posting, but school is a pain, I'm still trying my hardest to find time to actaully post Roleplays; but I'm not out, heh.

Point of No Return (Extreme Great Depression Alternate History)

@Chapatrap
Most likely, if I plan the Third R.o.China being established in about, 1932, and spent the three years building up to fuel Korean insurgency and do military build up; at least with the strengthen to take back Taiwan, and liberate the Korean peninsula, leaving to the current 1935 ideal to maybe be set at lets say, March 5th; with the kick off of the plans of politically, militarily backing the Korean insurgency, and than also possible July 6th, the liberation of Taiwan; leaving to the current RL, North-South Korea, Armistices; even though both sides are playing it to build up encase a Third Sino-Japanese War sparks? That's just my theory of how we can pull it off.

Point of No Return (Extreme Great Depression Alternate History)

@Chapatrap
After the ROC retook Taiwan, it caused a rift with Korea declaring independence, and is a decent trading partner with the regime in China, to help keep it stable with the internal problems it helped cause, Korea is more a leftist-central state like the 1st ROC [1911-1926], (which historically, the 1st ROC were also allies with Japan, till Chiang Kai-shek in 1927 created his more fascist regime over China), Most likely MOST colonizes in Asia like Vietnam is Independence, but that I have no true idea how Indochina is awkwardly set up.

Point of No Return (Extreme Great Depression Alternate History)

@Dinh AaronMk
The areas marked are areas claimed and governed by the government; who has actual authority over the lands. But as a whole, the government claims, is pretty much the same as Taiwan's real life claims;

Point of No Return (Extreme Great Depression Alternate History)

@Dinh AaronMk

The map says I do own parts of Manchuria, Dailian was part of Manchuria, and is under the represented area of my territory.
I put a little red line representing my sector of Manchuria

Notice that the Manchurian coast, Shenyang and Dailian fall under ROC Authority.
Manchukuo has the east, north, and Inner-Mongolia.

@Chapatrap
I could see a possible small border conflict or diplomatic solution occurring due to the situation of the world.

Point of No Return (Extreme Great Depression Alternate History)

@Chapatrap

Just a FYI, China owns Shenyang, Dailian, and really, western Manchuria.

Point of No Return (Extreme Great Depression Alternate History)

Beiping, Hebei Providence

The time, is 12:54 in the afternoon in the heart of Beiping, inside the Presidential Palace, located near the Forbidden City, President Shi Xiaobo, sits in his office on the second floor of the building, as his office's front doors, on each side adorns the national flag; he studies the flags for a few seconds, before a man named, Liu Zenguang; who was head of the "State Department of the Jinyiwei" walks into the office.

"Mr. Shi, the people are attempting a staged protest at Beihai Park on Qionghua Island, the old imperial park, it's about northwest of the Forbidden City, and it is confirmed the protesters likely came from the western provinces, protesting the conditions of their homes and villages, due to the economical conditions", Liu Zenguang says, "What actions do you take? Central Party said to ask you."

"Suppress it, I am authorizing your Jinyiwei", as President Shi replies,"Use all authority of your department to end the protests, just don't go out of the boundaries."

Liu simply replies with, "Yes sir, thank you."

Within about ten minutes, around six old Soviet cars begin racing down Jingshan West St, turning onto Zhishanmen St, that leads directly to the island park; coming out of them are Jinyiwei officers rushing toward the protestors, who were staging the protest by the White Pagoda, who begin encircling the twenty or so protesters with old planks of wood with written on them [of course in Chinese], "Think of the Villagers!", "The Government Can't Ignore Us!"; the Jinyiwei begins swinging their batons near them as a warning to disperse.

One of the officers using a megaphone yell, "You must disperse, This is your last warning!"

The protesters begin pushing any Jinyiwei that attempt to get closer, some even throwing rocks at the officers, leaving them to get more violent. With some swinging the batons at the legs of protesters making protests fall to the ground, before being dragged away; as a Jinyiwei police bus arrived, that protesters who refuse to disperse; are thrown into the be sent into a labor jail a few miles south of the capital city. By this point, the island has been blocked off and closed to the public due to the protesting, though by 3:41, around six protesters remain, and they begin violent lashes, and physically attacking Jinyiwei officers. Leaving to several Jinyiwei officers, in defense to swing their batons at protestors heads and upper torsos, as a way to protect themselves, as they were not permitted to use guns due to the smaller size of the protest, and as a way to prevent it to escalating to full scale violence, which still occurred to those who don't surrender and return home, or be arrested for "disrupted peace", and "attempting to damage the government and the party". Though at last, at 4:04, protestors who were injured, were put in ambulances, and after their treated would be sent to the labor jail.

After what the government now dubs, "The Beihai Incident", they order media to not report on it, and keep it from spreading from outside of the city, and with the island closed off due to the Jinyiwei arriving, it seems it most likely will be forgotten within a matter of days, except for within the labor jails where it won't escape, as once you enter the jail, you almost never escape, alive.

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Japan really was a power house, but I also was similar going with a better relationship; based on the relationship of China and the original 1911-1926 government; both were close allies and economically supported each other until Chiang began the second republic, and the Japanese seeing him as inferior. But no, the Japanese people did actaully, not have the best of lives due to all the focus was on the military. People blindly also obeyed the Emperor, who himself became a puppet of the military.

Point of No Return (Extreme Great Depression Alternate History)

@ONL

You do have, extremely valid points; but it could lead to interesting RP; with Japan now fighting to retake control over regions like Manchuria and Korea. Then possibly the people begin rising up; tired of the poverty issues that they actually did deal with, to establish a more, 'democratic' based nation, but that is just my speculation.

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@ONL

A minor part of just doing that so that I can group Taiwan with the TROC, but I would think, with a extreme depression; even Japan would be crippled to the point where they would have issues dealing with imperial ambitions if food is scarce, jobs laid off to make the materials needed to create the war machine. If even the stronger powers like the USA collapsed, then most likely Japan would deal with serious problems; as the Japanese relied heavily on US Trade for the raw materials like steel, iron, and oil.