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DaDrummer676 said
Then why post? XD Why not wait until you have a great idea to post?

Because I would have murdered his entire family if he hadn't posted.
I've been waiting, dammit.

Also, I'm assuming your OOC post is my Ok to IC post, Tats?

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I read the manga like a boss man. I finished it!
Though I mean, you can't really tell me not to bring up spoilers when you say something like "hasn't happened in the anime". Then I want to talk about the anime and manga :0

But anyway, if you feel it doesn't make sense still feel free to PM me, Rain.
lol. I'll do my best to avoid spoilers through the discussion.

Also, Twilight, do you think the character is still overpowered?

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Even though she may have been smart, it's pretty clear that at this point in the anime for me, regular people don't have access to make their flames just appear.

This doesn't really fit for two reasons.
The main one is that my character is not a regular person. She is a Yakuza. There are various individuals apart of the various mafia and are able to utilize flames and, as demonstrated in teh show, just about everyone is capable of manipulating flames and flame based box weapons. Even if regular people don't know of flames you cannot include all mafia families in that generalization, becuase there is not enough information for you to deduce that.

The second reason would be that there are far too many varieties of flames for you to assume that only the main cast are able to utilize flames. Bermuda's Flame of Night,Xanxus' Flame of Warth and Enzo's Earth Flames are examples of flame variants selective to certain families of mafia. (According to the wikia too, Xanxus' mother took him to the Vongola upon discovering that he had flames. Thus, ordinary people do know of the flames) It has been shown in the show that there are different sorts of Mafia families out there, even going as far to mentioning an American Mafia. And you don't have enough information to state that these other mafia cannot use flames. Nor can you say that they do not know about flames, despite that flames have been apart of the Vongola family, the most powerful Mafia, for generations. How would the rival families and fellow mafia not know that the Vongola has been using flames for decades to fight with? That doesn't even make sense, nor is is applicable to my character, because you cannot say what my character, or even the whole of the Yakuza in this universe, knows and does not know.

So that entire statement is, again, too narrow to really apply here. If it had more basis I'd understand, but probably and maybe hardly goes so far.

Also. If you carefully study the culture surrounding the anime (also the yakuza), as well as pay close attention to how many of each gender are in the mafia, you'll see that not a lot of females actually are in the mafia/yakuza.

Yet another probably and maybe.
Stating that females usually hold no power or say or authority does not mean that the situation and opportunity that was presented to my character is impossible. Saying usually females are under the dominant male doesn't mean that, as it has presented itself in history over and over, that a woman couldn't rise to power through charisma and intellect alone. Not only that, there is a factual example of a woman that did this very thing and became a Oyabun of the Yakuza's largest family. Her name was Kazuo Taoka.

I don't care that she's older than Tsuna, I care that these events are getting more and more unlikely.

Yet another thing that bothered me.
So you don't think that it make sense that she learned and was trained to learn what Tsuna learned in like 8 months to a year and a half...In 7 years? Chronologically and reasonably, it makes perfect sense. If you were to train anything, any part of your body or on any subject in school, for 7 years you would be beyond just adequately proficient. She practiced and developed her skills over time instead of through crazy emotional battle after crazy emotional battle. I didn't go into detail explaining what sort of training she underwent or how she learned to tap into her Dying Will Flames. I felt that it would overstretch the bio and provide a lot of unnecessary, inconsequential details that wouldn't really bring anything to the character. She was trained for 7 years. That's a lot of history to throw down and I'm not about making a bio longer than I feel it absolutely needs to be, nor do I believe that if I honestly went into great detail about that history would it honestly give you anything other than my own original designs. So asking for the training is pointless and doesn't really make sense to ask for, but I could draft what I had in mind in the bio.

Then there's the Mom's story. I can get that she's just a prostitute who can be smart. However, she had seven years to learn how to work the Yakuza, how the flames work, and get a suitable tutor for her daughter. Outside if smarts, I really don't see the sort of aggression that would be needed to hold the Yakuza under her thumb. (See: O-Ren Ishii from Kill Bill.) The Mom didn't do anything except just inherit the role, whereas I'm pretty sure that wouldn't happen.

Firstly, I didn't go into detail about her mother's bio, whom doesn't even have a name, because I was writing Shiho's bio. I never intended on detailing just how her mother rose to power nor her mother's upbringing or how her mother died. That is, again, fluff that isn't needed in the bio. Though, I did say, verbatim: "Through words, coercion and rallying allies she managed to eradicate each and every competitor that she had and promoted her daughter, not herself, as the head of the family." That actually DOES answer your question. I also direct you to Kazuo Taoka yet again, which makes the argument you are stating all the weaker. Because it CAN happen that a female can rule over the Yakuza for a time in the event of the death of a husband and the presentation of a powerful, wise leader with the influence to maintain her position. Though, I shouldn't even really have to go into that detail in order to build the character. If I decided that my character's mother was phenomenal and smart enough to become a Oyabun then that is apart of the history. That's like making a female President of China or the Female leader of all the Crypts of LA. It's a unique dynamic that the character's achieved that makes them unique and special and different than the others that came before them. It's an original idea that I drafted that was weird and shocking, though not impossible. You are looking at things from a very narrow point of view assuming that a female leader is impossible or that there is no other way to unlock dying will.

Where would Yakuza get access to mafia bullets and pills? How could she train without these? Who trained her to be able to just entered HDWM?

I never said she used pills or mafia bullets. However, being a part of the Yakuza, she honestly wouldn't have any difficultly locating them. Yakuza is the largest crime syndicate in the entire world. Whether by drug laundering or coercion or even outright theft, getting a hold of special bullets and special pills or forcing someone to produce some is not impossible. There's no reason that the Yakuza wouldn't be able to get their hands on them, but, again, I never said she relied on them. I said she was trained to initiate the HDWM her own. I didn't detail teh training process or how she went about developing it or who showed her how, etc. However, she did endure 7 years worth of training which, again, is more than Tsuna and comparable to Xanxus, thus her development was of a moderate and reasonable time. I haven't been asked by anyone to detail the 7 years of training, instead of leaving it open ended, but if I need too then I might as well. I don't really mind. It's just a lot of fluff that wasn't necessary to post the character. Either way, whether I describe it in detail or not, she was trained for 7 years. You knowing how won't really make that much of a difference to anything.

I honestly don't see any unlikely.
Just a lot of assumptions, to be frank.

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Tatsua Aiisen said
suffering from her monthly anemia...

See. This is why girls can't be ninja.

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RainDash said
I just have a problem with a fifteen year old just being able to initiate HDWM on her own, but maybe I missed something in her past that made her able to just enter it.

Though she is older than Tsuna...? She was trained longer than Tsuna too.
In fact, age is hardly revelant at all.

Plus 7 years is longer than one year. A lot longer.

Also consider what universe this is. Children are sucessors of various mafia families.
Your argument is disregarding the entire nature of Katekyo. Not only that, my character isn't in charge of all the Yakuza. Just a family of the Yakuza. Yakuza has an infrastructure all its own. Though, either way, the character was born into it and was appointed her rank through her mother and, eventually, via her own great strength.

You are being very narrow. Like, looking at the scenario far too realistically. Not only that, flames are hardly strictly a Vongola art. Once shown how, flames can be utilized by many different sorts of people from many different walks of life.

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Kinda pointless to delete posts anyway.
If you drop out just drop out. Deleting posts just inconveniences the whole Rp. Not really fair.

Though, welcome back anyway.
Mist is still gonna come out on top for the exams. Jus sayin'.

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Alright. I specifically stated that.

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What if I made it only when she is using her HDWM?

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TwilightDragon said
Quick question-- regarding her strength, that's still a bit too strong. Unless it's like Ryohei's Maximum Cannon?

Well, she can't punch a laser.
Think of it as if she were to punch the street she'd crack the blacktop or the cement.

Naruto: Birth of a Better Generation

Division B - Kyo

The woman was short, but she was one that stood out marvelously.
She had red hair that was tied loosely up and held by a pair of sharp needles and the remaining hair fell down just below her shoulders. She had a lot of that bright red hair tied upwards and, when it was freed from those twin hair needles, it fell just below her waists. She had deep earth brown eyes and a pair of brown beauty marks under her right eye, one directly under the other. She wore typical ninja clothing aside the flack jacket, which was missing. At her top she wore a long sleeve black shirt that had the symbol of the Uzumaki clan spiraling at her back.

This woman pulled Kyo from his current designation under special circumstances that she hadn't completely revealed yet. What? Who? Where? She wasn't divulging any details and, instead, was simply asking Kyo general questions. She asked him how his day was, how he thought about being a ninja, his family life, what sort of training he did in the academy, where he liked to eat and what he did in his down time...Things like that. She kept the conversation casual and she kept it consistent matching Kyo's answers with longer, more detailed responses to the same question from her own life. She was friendly and kind. Her words were always curved with her melodic tone of voice that was rosy and soft, almost as if she were telling a delicate story to an innocent child. She didn't say anything condescending or patronizing to Kyo, however her tone was unmistakably warm and motherly.

She as leading Kyo to the outskirts of town. She took him from the training field, through the town, out the front gates, and then out into a small clearing where a small river ran through. There was a glowing metal pole in the center of the area. There was a warmth exuding from it. Whatever it was it wasn't a normal object. Anyone with delicate chakra sensory abilities would be able to tell that it was full of chakra. As a Yoru, Kyo may be able to see tell-tale signs that it wasn't just an ordinary pole. It was a similarly specialized metal as the ones that his kin created. It was a chakra sensitive metal pole and looked like it had certain inscriptions that ran up and down the pole.

Upon closer inspection, Kyo would be able to see that it had small, intricately designed runes inscribed up and down the weapon and it was polished. If Yoru were really talented with his weapons crafting he'd also be able to see that it was layered. By examining the runes he'd be able to see that there was a metal alloy on top of another alloy, thus making it a weapon that was smithed with some skill and with more expensive materials than what it appeared as. It was more than just some simple pole.

Of course, the woman would stop Kyo from getting too close.
The last person that did get too close was still unconscious, after all.

"That's it," She'd say, motioning her hand towards the random metal pole in the middle of the area. "I will explain exactly what is going on, but I want to get your full permission before hand. You are just a Genin, a little kid, so I don't want you getting in over your head. You were pulled from the team assignments for this specific mission because, unfortunately, there are only about 12 people that could do this and you are one of the only two that can be reached right now. This mission is S-Class. You could die. Are you still willing to take it on, knowing that you could possibly die doing so?" She asked, watching Kyo with her large brown eyes. Likely, for a Genin fresh out of the academy, this was a pretty big deal.

Division B - Myth

He had electric yellow eyes, short navy blue hair, and was fairly tall. In fact, he was at least 6 feet tall and towered over the small, white haired Genin. This ninja wore typical ninja gear but had his right arm sleeveless and wrapped in white bandages up to his right shoulder and had black cloth over that and black chains binding the black cloth over that. It looked as if he were keeping something locked up tight or something around that arm of his.

Right in the middle of Myth's introduction with his team the man picked the little boy up, snatching him from the back of his shirt, and lifted him off the ground as he walked back into the village. Ordinarily, a ninja as sly and reclusive as Myth may have been keen enough to catch someone sneaking up on him, but not this ninja. This ninja was quieter than dust in the air. He held no presence and, even as he was holding Myth, seemed as if he really wasn't there at all. It almost seemed, strangely, as if Myth were to reach out he would have his hand phase completely through the non-existent man...As if he were some ghost or phantom.

This ninja's name was Yureki Shimazu and he was an elite. He was formally a part of the resistance and mostly served as an Academy teacher at this point of his life. He'd be well known by any of the recent graduates as one of the instructors in the history and geography classes. He was a little awkward at times, often stuttering and stumbling over his words, but he was tall and that wrapped arm of his typically kept students from ever saying or doing anything disrespectful in his class. Despite being awkward and slightly nerdy, he is rumored to be a fairly gifted ninja and the reason he chose to be an academy instructor was due to regret from the shear number of men and woman he killed.

This man would take Myth, being sure to keep him far away from the ground and keeping himself out of reach, to a shop. The boy would be taken just outside of a shop where he'd finally be plopped on the ground. The shop was way on the outskirts of the town, far from the main market district. From the look of the shop it was closed for a few years and on top of being boarded up it was littered with dust, dirt and some tagging.

"We have a mission for you, a simple one." It would be the first thing Yureki would have said this entire time. "Can you get inside there?" He'd ask, looking down at Myth. He'd wait a moment, allowing Myth a yes or no, before he decided to demonstrate why it was necessary. Yureki would kick a loose pebble towards the shop. The pebble would be bounced off with enough speed that it crashed into a cement wall a few yards away. It was fired with enough force that it dug clean into the hard cement. Likely, Myth would clearly be able to see that there was a barrier placed around the building. It originated from the inside, but there wasn't any sign that the barrier was active. It was quiet. It was a very complicated barrier technique. Despite being maintained via chakra, even the most adept chakra sensor wouldn't sense this barrier.

"F-From what we got from Kishira-san, t-this kekkai will only let s-specific individual through. She named your and your sister, s-sp-specifically," He'd state, looking at Myth a moment before returning his attention to the Kekkai. Whomever Kishira was, which was a name that Myth would no be familiar with, she managed to figure out that this barrier was somehow tied to Myth and Myth's sister? How she knew that, why that mattered and what that had to do with Myth now was up in the air. It was because she deduced that Myth was here right now. He was someone that could uncover this growing mystery surrounding the boy by name.

Typically, Myth's techniques were very specific. However, if Myth tried using his instantaneous movement techniques, he'd find that he could sense the chakra inside the building. There was almost a harmonizing connection with Myth and the building...Almost like a warmth. It would feel almost...Simple to use his Safe Place technique inside there...In fact, if Myth tried to gather chakra to attempt the technique or something similar, he'd feel that he'd be almost comfortable performing the technique inside that building...Despite that he most certainly never went inside it and would have never placed any sort of seal or anchor inside that building. Yet...He could? With a bit of chakra control and concentration...Myth would be able to use his Safe Place to teleport directly inside there.

However...What would that mean for him? What was inside this building that had a powerful barrier around it? What if, perchance, the one who created the barrier was inside waiting for him? What if it was a trap? He was fortunate that he had someone as capable as Yureki there, despite knowing nothing about the Sensei's technique or capability, but Kishira had already thought that far. Though, naturally, Myth wouldn't know that. Myth wouldn't know a lot about the current situation he'd been dragged into. The boy was probably fairly confused. He was dragged all the way out here on a day that he was supposed to be on his way towards becoming a full on ninja with a team and a teacher. Most likely, this was a big deal and he was a central piece in it all.