Holy Soldier

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@ArenaSnowIf you've already expressed that you don't support this idea and have found peace with all the comments you've made and have nothing more to contribute but trying to see this idea not happen, then why continue to post here? This thread is still open and it's going to be. People are going to continue to add thoughts and feedback to it. Just because you don't wish to anymore doesn't mean you have to keep posting how you don't want for the feedback to continue. No one is forcing you to continue to write lol.

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@PrinceAlexusYeah, I don't know if this is even doable. Only because I don't know what Mahz's complete capabilities are. However, renaming a section as a "World-Building" section and organizing the sections should be very easy to do since he's not destroying and creating anything. He's editing and rearranging.

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Honestly, if people are incapable of having a decent and intellectual argument, and instead are going to get riled up and upset, they should avoid this thread. Avoid all debatable discussions actually for it just may not be in your ("your" people in general) nature. Because those people are going to get mad and upset, and I'm just going to be going about my day indifferent and not able to relate.

I'm going to rewrite everything I've presented up to this point so people don't get misled by all the misunderstandings already presented.

1. The Test Forum discussion was discovered to be the “world-building” thread. Originally, people may not have known what a world-building thread was since this site doesn’t have one. I also notice that a lot of people only RP on this site versus multiple sites, and therefore, may not see innovated ideas for formatting and giving role players different ways to express their creativity.

2. The Character Sheet section and the RP Discussion were pointed out as being in the “Off-Topic” section. Since the “Test Forum” was also previously mentioned as possibly being changed, I suggested why not change all of them? Put Character Sheets and RP Discussion in a section related to Roleplaying.

3. It was suggested adding RP Tabs to the Test Forum, which I had mentioned doesn’t seem logical here. Maybe I wasn’t understanding the idea right, but world-building sections are pretty stand-alone but having moved the Character Sheets section under it would have not only gotten rid of an extra section but condensed it. So for example, the renamed “Test Forum” would take the place of how the “Advanced Roleplay” section is. Beneath it, would go “Character Sheets” as "Advanced Interest Checks" is under the Advanced Roleplay section. I hope that gives a visual of what I'm trying to say. In the overall section that World-Building would be in, it could be called “Out of Character” since the ideas are for “creation.” And RP Discussion can be moved beneath it as well.

4. I presented the idea for possibly using the same GM/co-GM collaborative administration techniques already offered with the 0th post as a feature in the World-Building section. This would allow people to build their worlds on this site "together" with whoever they list as co-Gms, in this sites format, and see what it all looks like overall before deciding whether to use the idea or leave it as a draft. It can even be used as a future idea.

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God, yes. Iwaku was a damn mess, and I hated it there. It took me awhile to even be able to navigate the forum properly, let alone get into a roleplay: And it always took much too long. RPGuild has always been simple, with no clutter until Expanding Horizons came along, but opinions

Iwaku will always be worse for me because it attracts some terrible people, though. RPGuild has it's share of real shady people, but due to our size it's not as bad. Not to mention mods are quick to step up when something's wrong, usually. Never seen much mod work on Iwaku, but I never required it personally because the time between me being on there and Guild coming back wasn't very long.

And as we all know, I love crawling back here.

@Raddum

Thanks for posting that deliberately off-topic post.

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@KoLWe also have yet to see a good argument as to why having a world-building section when people "world-build" would be a bad idea.

I wrote that line in the original discussion because I saw that the "Test Forum" was the illegitimate world-building thread so that's pretty old and you should be reading the updates.

I only tell people not to bother posting when they clearly have run out of discussion and are merely arguing for the sake of arguing and are no longer really arguing the topic. Because those pointless arguments turn into flames.

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You had nothing logical to contribute. When it was stated that the idea was all about condensing the threads down and giving Guild a sleek appearance, all you did was continue to talk about how "adding threads" "adding threads" "adding threads" and never once read the conversation. So instead of contributing to a pointless discussion with your misunderstandings, understanding the actual argument would have helped make this thread more productive and your comments more logical and related to what was being argued.@Inkarnate

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Man, this thread is golden. I love it when someone asks for opinions but is not willing to listen.

Anyway, let me throw my chip into this discussion, if only so that my post isn't declared off-topic and "not to be entertained".

You know why I like the Guild? It's because it's simple. The more stuff you add on it, the harder it gets to use, so I'd rather not have to keep tabs of another section of this forum is possible. Even though I appreciate the quality writing of many members, this is not a novelists' community, we don't need more sections dedicated to fluff when the ones we have work.

@KoL

I haven't listened because no one is reading what I write. What you just said here is not what I've been saying at all, and therefore, you're repeating what so many before you have said because they haven't read either. The idea was originally to add a section because I didn't know that one already existed. When I asked if a world-building section existed, people didn't know what I was talking about. So I made this thread originally to have one created. Throughout the lengthening of this thread, it was revealed that a world-building section does exist on Guild. It is called the "Test Forum."

The very people who had argued with me for hours yesterday, saying they didn't want a world-building thread, had threads in the Test Forum dedicated to world-building. So instead of having a hypocritical rant, if a world-building thread already exists, the conversation changed to changing the name of the Test Forum to "World-Building" since that is what it is predominantly used for.

I'm also going to let you know that this is another repeat of what I've been saying so many times.

Next stop would be what, separating RPs in sub-forums for each genre so that people can know better where to post their sci fi, or fantasy RP?

@KoL

That is an entirely different topic and doesn't have anything to do with this one. You should make that into its own RP Discussion or a Suggestion.

Also, why not do your world building on your own RPs? Where the players are several times more likely to actually pay attention to it.

Plus, the way I'm seeing your arguments, you are saying that those who don't use a World Building section don't do world building, which is a fallacy.

@KoL

You clearly didn't read my argument, but I already clarified up above. I also do World-Build my own games. The original issue was having a place where players can world-build without having to clutter three different sections deemed as world-building threads: Test, Gallery, and Character Sheets. It was to organize Guild so that everything is where it should be.

100% in favor of adding tabs to other sections, though. It has been my long lasting dream to be able to do tabbed RPing PMs, and I can only see the system helping in other environments. But, another section is a big no. EW is already there to make us scroll down to reach the RPs for no reason, I don't think we need more.

@KoL

Again, this is a different discussion and not what is currently being talked about here. This is about World-Building.

At least I don't.

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We still can't even add more than 2 co-GMs, have the abilities for a GM to do more than 10 bans, or delete posts from their own RP. Don't you think that you are making a bit of a tall order just to satisfy your ego?

@KoL

What you said was a "tall order." The ability to add co-GMs to a role play and have them edit the 0th post is already an existing function. This function can easily exist as an entire thread rather than just one post in a thread. So before you "continue" to be rude, you can either choose to continue this conversation respectfully or just not comment at all. Because disrespect is reported and it doesn't contribute to the conversation.

Seven Deadly Sins: Beast Log

THIS IS THE BEAST LOG FOR THE ROLEPLAY GAME SEVEN DEADLY SINS. ONLY PLAYERS FROM THE GAME ARE ALLOWED TO POST THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE BEAST LOG HERE. NO OTHER PLAYERS ARE PERMITTED.

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A World-Building section, if you've ever seen an actual one, is a stand-alone forum. I don't see why adding an OOC, IC, Character Thread (tabs) you would see when you stand the game up. I don't see how that would be a solution when simply renaming the Test Forum to say "World-Building" and rewriting the description to include world-building is an easier change or renaming the Test Forum and creating a blank forum for the Test Forum when hardly anyone uses it as what it was originally deemed to be would be better I guess. The Test Forum is actually a waste since people can test signatures by easily adding it to their name and then looking at it. Bbcode is already tested with the "preview" function. This site doesn't use HTML, bots, or scripts, so it seems like an overall useless forum even if it is claimed that one is needed when it isn't.

The World-Building section literally is a section for drafted ideas that you either use or don't use. If you try and merge RP tabs on there because you are hoping people will always turn the drafts into a RP, then that's a waste. Using the test forum as an example, for each game, you would be able to make as many threads as you want versus one thread to encompass all of your ideas without worrying about "clutter" or what anyone else says. A Beast Log and even a Towns, Cities, and Kingdoms log is definitely going to get their own threads and not be smashed into one thread. Since it will be constantly updated and the ease of scrolling through the information and only that information is granted.

But that is literally all that needs to be done. Making an extra tab for world-building in the RP format is not a good idea lol.

Actually, I take that back. That is not all. I should be able to permit a select few of people to add or edit the creations. So when I make a thread, if I have co-GMs or friends building it with me, there should be a function to allow them to edit the post. Similar to how co-GMs are added to a game. Co-GMs given permission by the OP would allow for collaborative writing without the need for a third-party program. If you are running a website, you want people to use your website more versus using other websites. It is business practice. The better your features, the more users will come to your site.

If you have lost interest in this discussion, no one is forcing you to continue.

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Thus why I'm leaving it open to give others a chance to finally comment. There was a lot of spitfire going on. There will be feedback.