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Awesome. Glad this is still going.
> > Do you really want to isolate yourself like that, So Boerd?
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> Don't let your mercator projection fool you. It's a short trip to the St. Lawrence and besides, I got Hallifax man to keep me company.
Lucky you :)
> West Coast living is where it's at. You can keep your eastern North America.
Yes, but when the colonisation phase comes up, it's a shorter trip across the Atlantic than the Pacific :P
> > And they're not suddenly Venetian. IRL Halifax is focused heavily on private industry and commerce, so it's not much of a transition. It would be more accurate to say that they are a Canadian version of Venice (minus canals) than a Venetian version of Canada.
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> You don't have to literally *be* Venice to be a merchant state. That would be like people addressing themselves by Roman, Latin titles just because they are part of an empire. Adopting Venetian titles and names is not a requisite for every merchant state ever. It's honestly very strange for people in Halifax to suddenly adopt Venetian titles and terms, as if they have anything culturally in-common with Venice or even Italy.
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> You can be a merchant state without a Doge, and without calling yourself a 'Serene Republic'. Those are pretty much Venetian terms (and Genoan, I guess) and about as far from Canadian as you can get. It comes off.. weird, I guess. It doesn't fit. Unless you claim that the founders were obsessed with Venice and decided to adopt titles and names. It would give you a reason for why they are used, but it honestly wouldn't make it any less weird, in my opinion.
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> I get the possibility of a merchant state forming in Halifax. What I don't get is why they are pretending to be Venice, as if it's required. It would make more sense to be a merchant state, but still be.. Canadian.
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> EDIT: Not to seem imposing or too judgmental, by the way. I'm just outspoken, I guess. It's ultimately your own opinion that matters.
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> As a Canadian I can say while I do think of Halifax as a marinetime province and one heavily invested in it's ports and sea trade industry. I also can in no way find the link between it and venice. Certainly if Halifax were ever to become independent than yes they would be a trade focused nation simply out of both necessity because of their size and convenience because of their resources, but if anything they would probably return to their Gaelic roots (which are still quite deep over there believe me) for language and society structure. They are proud of their 'New Scotland' heritage and even promote it at times.
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> This is not to say they wouldn't still be a trade nation, just not a cut and paste 'neo Venice' if you will. Probably something with a slight Scottish tinge to it.
I get what you are saying. I shall make a few adjustments to my nation sheet. It's just I like Venice :)
> Why are you using sails and oars? You can use steam. All you'd need is wood and coal. That and people who know how it works. Sails and oars could be used on the side, but the absence of oil doesn't automatically make them (sails and oars) a necessity, or the primary source of seaborne power. Steam would be relatively easy to use, and more effective.
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> The following is not meant to offend, and I'm only pointing it out because I'm on the topic and I'm genuinely curious -- Why are they suddenly Venetian? It is rather strange that a bunch of Canadians would suddenly pretend to be Venetian.
Good point. I'll edit the nations sheet.
And they're not suddenly Venetian. IRL Halifax is focused heavily on private industry and commerce, so it's not much of a transition. It would be more accurate to say that they are a Canadian version of Venice (minus canals) than a Venetian version of Canada.
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> **Nation's Name:** The Mercantile Republic of Halifax, a.k.a the Republic of Halifax, Nova Scotia, Halifaxia
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> **Leader's/Government's Name:** Supreme Councillor George Chamberlain
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> Whilst Halifax claims to be a "Republic", in reality it follows a mixed government model, combining monarchy in the Supreme Councillor, aristocracy in the Senate, and a "democracy" of elected representatives in the Council.
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> The Supreme Councillor is an elected monarch, voted in by the Senate. The Senate is a group of the more wealthy and 'high-blooded' individuals in Halifax. Most members are thought to be descended from the chieftains and band-leaders that seized power before Halifax was united, hence their 'aristocracy'. The Council is a group of elect, chosen by the people to represent each 'borough' on the Nova Scotia peninsular. They function mainly like the IRL British Parliament, and vote in candidates from the Senate for Supreme Councillorship, though the Senate makes the final decision.
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> **Claimed territory:** > [http://i58.tinypic.com/2s1aped.png](http://i58.tinypic.com/2s1aped.png "The Most Serene Republic of Halifx")
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> **Description of Technology:** Technology is very varied in Halifax. In some areas, primarily shipping, much has been preserved and reproduced as much as possible, but with a return to sail-power and, importantly, coal power, with the end of oil trade. Of course, hi-tech items such as smartphones and tablets have not survived, but computers are still used to an extent for navigation. Radio has survived, but is not reliable. In terms of agriculture, methods have reverted to a Middle Ages-like condition, resulting in a great deal of emphasis being put on fishing as a food source - especially with the boom in fish populations with the end of commercial fishing.
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> **Description of Society:** The society of Halifax focuses mainly on trade and commerce. Although currency is almost non existent in this new and hostile world, focus is often put on acquiring what wealth is available - leading to the widespread assumption that Haligonians (actual demonym) are hoarders. All in all, society functions similarly to Venice in the Middle Ages.
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> Society deals with the problem of the reviving dead with a strict ritual - the dying are sent on their 'Final Voyage' on a raft and towed out to sea. It is assumed by the Haligonians that they will never reach land again, especially in the cold northern waters.
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> **Industries:** The company Irving Shipbuilding has survived, and manufactures some of the best ships possible with the limited resources available. These are often just sail or oar-powered, or a combination with oil-power due to limited resources. Shipbuilding is therefore Halifax's primary industry - they are prepared to build ships for those who pay, or act as naval mercenaries - for a high price.
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> Fishing is also important, not only to provide food for the Haligonians themselves, but also to trade with others. With the collapse in organised agriculture, caravans could be organised inland to trade fish for other resources, such as fuel or other types of food.
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Very well - I can wait :)
> @rush99999 of course.
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> @Iluvatar Yes, most likely I will split up Austria and make several duchies out of it like Franconia, Tyrol, Carniola, etc. while also keeping duchy of Austria as a successor with the area around Vienna and our realm would be in the north of the historical duchy of Austria bordering the new duchy of Austria to the south, Bohemia to the north, Franconia to the west, and possibly Hungary to the east. But this is subject to change, of course. I've also considered splitting up Bavaria or maybe even Brandenburg. Suggestions are welcome.
Excellent. Looking forward to it.
> @Iluvatar you'd be secluded from everything else since most of the Roleplay would focus on internal politics. Most external coverage would come from bordering lands while some important battles and events from rest of the known world would just be mentioned.
Okay then, that's fine anyway.
Is this is set in the Holy Roman Empire?
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