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How are they linking up to the Grail?

At that point you're better off just having your own Greater Ritual to summon a Servant.


They're insane cultists, so it's likely that they could develop a ritual that simply forces it to make an extra servant, even if it's at the cost of several/dozen/hundred members' lives.

Or they used their own greater ritual.
What if a cult did a ritual to force the Grail to make another servant. Say, a mass suicide and then utilizing the mana from their bodies to do the summoning thing.
So from what I can gather, someone's leeching all the spare prana because conspiracies, but the grail didn't have enough enough leftover to make an eight servant, despite that possibly being precisely what the grail needs to stop these conspiracies.
Am I correct?

Also, Solomon can't be the only one who willed himself to be summoned. Heroic Spirits are by their very nature exceptional individuals, and the vast majority of candidates would possess a strong desire to return to the human world, whether it's to experience battle again, see what's become of their home in the past 2000 years, etc.

I also feel like it's be weird if the Second Owner could stop the Grail or a Heroic Spirit from leeching prana from Fuyuki's leylines. In general, wouldn't she be allowing that to happen anyways, since servants use quite a bit of mana/prana to power NPs?
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What you guys are saying isn't impossible, IMO. But would only make sense for an Avenger Class Servant to be summoned in such a way.


I can roll with that. There's plenty of historical avengers I can write up.
Okay but why doesn't it have leftover prana to do that one more time?
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...was there something in my post that didn't explain why that's impossible?

I'm legitimately confused by this response.


Yeah but the grail's a magical genie wish granting device as it is, so I'd say it could pull out some spare prana.
May also be that an especially wily Heroic Spirit managed to force itself into the Grail War, perhaps forcibly sucking mana out of Fuyuki's ley lines.
Might I suggest just having an eighth master?

It's a good way to shake things up, especially if he uses a non-standard class like Pugilist or Wrestler. Maybe Gunner.
"What the Hell?" Vincent said, as the gigantic thing fell over. It was a thunderous crash, one that sent the earth shaking. And with the poor view he had up close to its ankle, he wasn't sure what had happened. It had probably gotten tripped from him slicing its ankle open.

Worse yet, a civilian had wandered to the battle site. With green hair and an odd dress, she must have been some cosplayer or something out for a nature walk. Maybe she was here for a photoshoot? Whatever the case, she'd need to head back.
"Hey you!" he shouted, pointing his sword at the girl. His voice was magnified through the helmet's speakers, so he doubted she'd have a hard time hearing him.
"Get out of here! It's not safe; there's a giant goddamn monster! Go!"
My point stands, the game breaks its own rules all the time.
No I mean the original F/SN. Eight servants. Count 'em.
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