LunarStandard

The Duel Tower: The first year students. (A Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Academy Roleplay.) [Axed]

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The reason I'm bringing up Anime-only is because this RP isn't the real world either. It's set in a world based on the five animes. I also get your point on making the requirements the same, but it's not like I asked to use a rank 6 and a rank 8. For all intents and purposes they're still rank 4's with just different attributes. I'm not arguing OPness either, hell, the cards aren't that good. I'm just trying to say that whilst yes, Konami didn't do this, there's no indication that it couldn't be done. There's been instances of them breaking their own rules in their own fictional universes, so why can't we do the same? That's my question.

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If you have an opinion, share it. Honestly, if more people than just Lunar and Scarifar are against it(or they manage to change my mind) I'll change it. I don't want to be a complete prick either.

@Ammokkx

New Order 13 was used by the embodiment of the will of Astral World. Dark Synchros were used by the servants of ancient gods who have gathered power for 5000 years. This Xyz Monster is a card readily available to everybody and is currently being used by a first-year student at a dueling academy.

And yeah, I suppose there's no indication it couldn't be done, just as there's no indication that I couldn't just go off and create my own summoning method called something stupid like...oh I dunno, "Marduk Summon". It's probably going to happen in some generation anyway, right?

The question is not "could we", but "should we". Precedence is important because it sets established boundaries. Once we get to a point where we need to start discussing power levels of cards used in a children's card game, then maybe it's okay to break them. A little. But for now, we have a bunch of dumb kids spending their high school years learning the correct way to put cards on a duel disk. We should probably stay inside those boundaries where it's safe.

The Duel Tower: The first year students. (A Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Academy Roleplay.) [Axed]

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I'm not. There's a reason I outright rejected a certain card, it was more like a novel rather than anything else.

Also, the anime-only monster that was a Rank 13 was a thing. Please tell me how you're going to summon that with actual Xyz materials. Or Dark Synchros, those were pretty wonky too. I know the idea behind Xyz, but if we're really going down that path, then there's a clear divide between specifics and splashable materials. There's a ton of generic rank 4's, but then some require actual named cards (hello fiend eagle). I'd consider this just another way of specifying what type of monster you need. I mean, you could use those very same monsters to Xyz Summon Exciton Knight and Castel. Hardly fair imo.

@Ammokkx

Ancient Dragon, Greed Quasar, Hermit of Prophecy, etc.

And those anime-only cards remained anime-only for a reason. I honestly don't see how they relate to what we're discussing since we are talking about the game as we are trying to play completely unscripted. And yes, some Xyz Monsters require specific named materials, but those materials have the same requirements, which is the point I'm trying to make. It's fine if it's just specifying the materials required, I'm saying that we should follow precedence and make those requirements the same. And yeah, Exciton and Castel are super splashable and versatile Xyz Monsters, but I'm not discussing that the card is OP, I'm saying that it's just not how Xyz Monsters work.

The Duel Tower: The first year students. (A Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Academy Roleplay.) [Axed]

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*shrug* To be fair, There's some cards created here that simply would not work IRL because the card text is too long. We're not following reality down to the nitty gritty, card text just has to be correct and balanced. And it's not like Konami never had the choice to make them like that, they just haven't done so yet. Honestly, you weren't really supposed to send fusion materials from your field to your deck until contacts came out either or use mask change to summon a fusion monster that can't even be summoned otherwise. There will always be exceptions to the rule.

@Ammokkx

Yeah, but Contact Fusion and Mask Change are pretty much evolved mechanics that border on being something new entirely, kind of like Rank-Up and Accel Synchro, with appropriately flashy introductions in the anime or manga. And yeah, Konami certainly had the chance to make Xyz Monsters like this, but they haven't, and saying they haven't done so yet is just speculation. Konami could have taken Xyz Monsters down the path of Fusions and Synchros by requiring different materials, but they didn't, and that's probably because they have a specific idea of what Xyz Monsters should be. By the way, I think you might be underestimating just how small card text can be.

The Duel Tower: The first year students. (A Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Academy Roleplay.) [Axed]

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To be fair, I've made an exception before with there having to be 1 LIGHT and 1 DARK monster for another Xyz Monster he created.

@Ammokkx

With all due respect, can't you just change it like how Charak changed Kyuubi? It just leaves a bad taste because that's not really how Xyz Monsters work.

The Duel Tower: The first year students. (A Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Academy Roleplay.) [Axed]

With the adrenaline now wearing off, Nathaniel let out a breath and realized that he was getting tired. Alas, no rest for the weary, it seemed. Not while their school was under attack. Looking around at the other students, he saw that two others were having a duel to pass the time. He was about to try to sneak a peak at their table before he heard Brad from behind him.

He turned and saw that his friend had apparently pulled himself together. Nathaniel rubbed his eyes a little with his right hand before answering Brad with a sigh.

"Well, security's pretty tight around here, so we should be safe for now. They probably know more about all this than we do, so I'm going to go see if I can find out what happened."

Nathaniel then stood up from his chair and headed to the nearest security officer. "Excuse me, sir. My friend and I are wondering what happened. How did these guys get into the school?"

The Duel Tower: The first year students. (A Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Academy Roleplay.) [Axed]

Nathaniel breathed a sigh of relief when he saw that the library was a safe zone for the students stuck in this calamity, though he felt his chest tighten when he saw just how hopeless they were. And then there was Brad. From the looks of it, the stress of the situation had really taken its toll on him. He himself wasn't feeling too great either. He could feel the cold sweat on his back, and his heart was beating so fast he was afraid it could burst at any moment. As much as he wanted to grill a staff member for some answers, perhaps they were both overdue for a rest.

"Come on, Brad. Let's go sit down for a while." Putting a hand on Brad's back, Nathaniel gently escorted his friend to some vacant reading chairs.

As Nathaniel sat down, he put his face in his hands and took a deep breath before looking up again. As he gazed around the library at the students lucky enough to take refuge, he could not help but give a wistful sigh. "I hope the others are okay."

The Duel Tower: The first year students. (A Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Academy Roleplay.) [Axed]

@Jangel13

Not ammokkx don't know the exact details but

from the wiki it has been gathered this

During each of either player's Standby Phases, 1 Speed Counter is placed on both player's "Speed World"; although in the anime a Speed Counter is not placed on the first turn, in video games featuring Turbo Duels, it is. There are also cards which can either decrease or increase the number of Speed Counters on "Speed World".

There are even cards that can prevent either player from accumulating Speed Counters. When you take damage, for each multiple of 1000 damage you take, you lose 1 Speed Counter. With "Speed World 2" however, you don't.

so basically a field spell is played and every standby phase you gain a speed counter which continues to rise unlock more spells for you to use but you gotta pay a cost.

@1Charak2

As an addendum to this, Speed World 2 also has effects that you can take advantage of as long as you have a Speed Spell in your hand.

You can reveal one Speed Spell in your hand and remove an appropriate number of Speed Counters to activate one of these effects:
* 4: Inflict 800 damage to your opponent. (In the anime, it was 800 per Speed Spell in your hand, but that's pretty OP in 4k format...)
* 7: Draw 1 card.
* 10: Destroy 1 card on the field.

The Duel Tower: The first year students. (A Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Academy Roleplay.) [Axed]

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I swear, I NEVER win a coinflip.

@Ammokkx

I dunno. I think these days, going second is better than going first. At least at our intended level of play.

The Duel Tower: The first year students. (A Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Academy Roleplay.) [Axed]

Someone please flip a coin for me. Heads I'm first, Tails Ammox is.

@Eklispe

Heads.

The Duel Tower: The first year students. (A Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Academy Roleplay.) [Axed]

@LunarStandard@EviiPaladin@Satoshi Kyou

Yo, before I get to finishing my post, I need to ask you three a question.

Lunar and Evii, are you two going to go down the library? 'cause if you are, I'll write you in there.

Satoshi, going to change your post in any way? If you're planning to but don't have enough time, don't worry. Gimme the general gist of it if I need to do anything special. I'll write it in, and you can edit your post at your own leisure.

@Ammokkx

That's what Nathaniel suggested. If Brad agrees, then yeah, that's where they'll go.