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World in Revolution: 1861

AegonVI said
WHILE THE WAR IS GOING ON JUST CALL IT "The Great War (of Europe)"

I second this.

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The Allied-Eighth Coalition War?

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So Boerd said
"War of the Eighth Coalition"

So pretentious. Y'all haven't even won yet. :P

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So...what are we calling this War in europe? The European War sounds so generic. I say right now that we shouldn't name this war after any of our alliances. So....

The Constantinople War?

The Treaty War?

The Peace Resolution Wars?

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So Boerd that post was inspired. I'm not even going to try to reply to it. As much as I stand 100% against y'all in this war, your post had me tearing up a tad and my heartstrings tugged at me to side with Prussia....for about a minute :P

Best of luck to you in this War. We will try to avoid hurting you too much.

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Byrd Man said
If you're schizophrenic or have a loose mental grip on reality, you do not deserve to own or wield a deadly weapon. End of story.

Who determines what a loose mental grip on reality is though? I agree that those are issues and they shouldn't own a deadly weapon, however what about those who have been through severe mental illness but through counseling/medication are over it...because of their past history the Government denies them certain rights. "You cannot own a gun because when you were 14 you were suicidal" can quickly become "You cannot vote because your mental history does not allow you the ability to do so rationally."

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Byrd Man said
Honestly, I'm in favor of the Second Amendment, but there should be restrictions. Tighter background checks, including mental and criminal history checks on anyone who wants any gun, and no military-grade hardware for sale obviously. I'm fine with someone owning a fully automatic weapon. If you look at statistics of gun violence over the years, it's gone down in the US. Yes, the school shootings and other mass shootings are tragedies but they are a tiny percentage, less than 1%, of all gun deaths.

I agree with all your points except the mental history check. Not because I think it in of itself would be bad, but because that then gives the Government more leeway to look into your medical history. Also allows for future discrimination of certain rights to people because of certain issues.

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solamelike said
It pretty much says all American citizens can have guns though right?

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

That's what it says.

Also the quality thing is very true, but as I said in my previous post...A good portion of our soldiers would most likely side with the people. Considering also what is happening in Iraq/Afghanistan...I see it being difficult for the USA government to crack down on the people. Considering also how foolish it would be for the government to do somethign to incite the American people to rebel...yeah America would be in the crapper.

Also, at least in recent years I know there have been more fears about an attack on America soil....So make of that what you will.

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Pepperm1nts said
"How can I defend myself against a drone if I don't have my .22???"

:P

This is somewhat true, but nonetheless that's why there is the argument over citizens being allowed to have military grade weapons. Personally..I think that if you are part of an organized militia that has proper training/background checks..etc. You should be allowed to carry whatever you want.

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Also..if the USA Government ever did something truly tyrannical..I would not be surprised to see a lot of deserters/turncoats in our military. The American military very strongly identifies with the rights of the people and constitution. A helluva lot more than Congress.

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solamelike said
Ok you need a starting point but surely you build off it according to modern politics and society?For instance the second amendment, why is everyone so pissy in just updating it. Maybe make it easier to understand and more specific. Or do they protest because they prefer it to be vague?

My understanding of it is...both sides are too evenly matched on certain issues that they cannot move forward. They might both agree that something needs to be changed, but because they disagree on how it should be changed...nothing changes.

Edit: Also in regards to the second amendment...a lot of Americans are very distrustful of our government. The argument is...if they take our guns away what power do we have to stop them from doing what they want. It hearkens back to the American thought process found in the Declaration of Independence...