Salroka

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Glitchy said
Need a link to the characters and IC.

Ysolda

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Vordak said
Duh. Why does Beta seem to be the only one that payed attention to my post? I don't think that this is a problem insignificant and easily dismissed.

Vordak said
Quit it, swabs.

If i were Green, i wouldn't try what he did there, simply beacause i like my characters to epicly win completely on their own, or die horribly for failing to do so. But as i am just a bystander here, my only argument against that decision is that such a trick is indeed close to metagaming, introducing a third side to the battle, akin to when Khazna made his way out of Leeroy's explosion: something seemingly unacceptable during a fight, yet used twice already in the finale. The battle ensues between a fixed number of characters, and any NPC's are either summoned with an ability, or made zero-tier (unable to affect the battle's flow). But here, a character hastily brought into action actualy becomes a gamechanger, allowing for both murder and escaping. Maybe this isn't a rule yet, but it sure seem's like it should be.

Sure, this is getting old, but we can still prevent such things from happening in the future, rite?

There you be. Now people don't have to go back a page for it.

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Glitchy said
Well if you want I can give a ruling on it. I did judge a few fights back when I was more active here.

While it won't be from Skall, I suppose it's better than ranting and raving... as all that gets me is people basically saying "Shut up, Beta" and "Leave Green alone." So sure, feel free to review the fight and the OOC Information that led up to it. I'd say it's about 7 or 8 pages back.

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Lost cause? You're right about that. Considering that there's no GM here to say "Green, that move was BULLSHIT", I'm the one fucked in the can.

I feel for Skall's situation, but a part of me wishes he could just pop in, read this debacle, and give an official ruling.

As for "Murdering the low-tier oppenent floating around" ... he's supposedly escaping in a space-flight capable ejector-pod at 1500mph. My character has spells with CLEARLY defined ranges... and archery abilities. So yeah... Shoot down a fighter jet with a longbow. That works.

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Schradinger said
quitting

All I read there was "Well, fuck. This guy has logic I can't argue with. I better say something clever to make it sound like I won and he's a raving idiot."

It's fine, I understand. Few people enjoy seeing someone pick apart the logic of someone they are friends with.

Long and short of it is this.

Green saw what I was about to do, played the "LOL He's crazy so I can do this" card, metagamed so hard that metagaming's mom felt it, and gets off free-and-clear because he's more familiar to everyone than this n00b that is mad about being metagamed on.

Vordak said
The only logic I've seen out of anyone other than myself in four pages of debate

THANK YOU!

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Metagaming: In role-playing games, metagaming is a term often used to describe players' use of assumed characteristics of the game. In particular, metagaming often refers to having a character act on knowledge that only the player has access to.

Example: Beta being called on a rule, and explaining his character's actions in the OOC. Green, realizing his shit is about to get ruined, bullshits a "HEYGUISELOLCOMEBACKTOTHESHIP" call from random npc #32, ejects, and detonates a triple-nuke to kill the ants that were ruining his picnic... then claiming 'Well he didn't know she was still there lol" ... when I stated multiple times that Ysolda's aura was bright enough to see for MILES... and in a darker environment such as they were fighting on... she couldn't really hide anywhere, even on the mech's leg.

To further clarify, she was there because she felt it couldn't reach her there... not so much to hide.

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GreivousKhan said
You can attack while charging, E.I, weaving a spell in one hand and attacking with a mundane sword or punching with your first in the other. It has to be clear what the perp is for however.

I also pointed out ICly that the prep was going toward a spell. Even noted it was a rather nasty one that the character really didn't want to use, but saw little choice BUT to use it.

ASTA said
So much sarcasm it hurts.

That obvious, eh?

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Schradinger said
Edmund's mentality allows for exceedingly illogical actions without breaking character or utilizing OOC knowledge.

So the solution to being accused of Metagaming is... make every character as nuts as possible.

Thanks for clearing that up. I feel so much better.

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Other than her spells, she has a magic bow and archery shit... so no.

And as for next time, there won't be one. I don't RP with metagamers.

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Schradinger said
But at the end of the day, this is just a roleplay. Nobody actually died, and you yourself said you had a way for Ysolda to survive so nobody has to die in the RP either. On top of that, you and LeeRoy got Green's character to destroy his most powerful asset, meaning he'll be easier to beat until he gets a new one.

Yeah, but I decided to say fuck it and lost every ounce of care I had for that fight, condemning Ysolda to death... and Green literally made a universe-spanning empire in which that character is INCREDIBLY high-ranking. He can literally be like: "New mech, now." and get one. Hell, according to the post, they TOLD him to blow it up, and that he could GET another one. Fuck you, Green. Fuck you with a used syringe.

NOTHING sets me off more than fucking metagamers.