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@YandereClockI think we literally just missed each other, and do you think Nidhogg's Magic Resistance should be strong enough to be of use in Caster's Temple? Oh, and thanks and would the Caster's summoned Zombies be able to reform even after being eaten, I would think not but just want to be sure, since Nidhogg will be eating them all.


Stay away from the church is my warning. Nidhogg is completely countered in every sense of the word against the priest now that I assessed his resources.
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Depends on the Servant really. Rin spent up almost ten years worth of stored Prana to kill Herakles once, which isn't exactly a feat you can do more than once on short notice.

I would argue that Kuzuki would have lost had that fight gone on much longer, since Saber was becoming accustomed to his fighting style. Which is why he bugged out when he did. And I seem to recall most of Emiya's fight with Lancer involving him running away and getting his ass kicked, with nary a chance of him actually winning in sight.


This is Heracles we are talking about, who deflected three A ranked ice spears that Rin made and was only killed when his A+ Strength grip was countered and he was surprised by FIVE A ranked blasts of light. Rin wanted to go overkill, as was specifically stated in the VN. She originally believed only 2 or 3 jewels was enough to beat Heracles, but Shirou and Saber forced her to use at least 5 in order to be safe.

One A ranked attack can easily destroy a servant if it hits directly. All of Medea's beams would have disintegrated Archer instantly. Kuzuki would not have lost that fight had he not killed Saber the first time he skirmished her. His Snake style is bred from a mountain assassin school in Fuyuki where literally all you do is train in assassination to kill the enemy in as short a time as possible. Its the ultimate assassination technique that focuses entirely on strangeness to confuse an opponent. Kuzuki himself does not match to servants, but his fighting style does. Bazett can defeat servants quite handily too.
Not many masters have been top grade in terms of modern potential anyway, with people like Uryuu and Waver and blah. It is extremely hard to defeat a servant of course, but its not as hard as you think it is. You just need to know some of the more obscure stuff around in the Nasuverse.
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Even in canon, though those Masters who try it tend to have hax magics or special abilities that let them survive more than five seconds.


Your overestimating servants here. Rin with her special jewels can kill almost any servant with a surprise attack, they are A ranked attacks by the way which are lethal to a servant body.

Kuzuki, albeit with reinforcement, is capable of defeating Saber, of course he has trained in an assassination school for almost all his life. Emiya naturally can have a defensive fight against a servant with projection. Emiya Shiro without any knowledge of his abilities managed to live more than "5 seconds" against Lancer, albeit with Lancer not being serious. A half rate reinforcement poster can block a light thrust with Gae Bolg. Etc.

Oh by the way, Kotomine Kirei using command seals can fight servants. Hint hint.
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If they double team Nidhogg, he will go straight for the weak human, as no magus is a match for a servant, especially an untrained one, or he would try and use Tomoe's madness against her and make her A) Kill Cage or B)Kill cage indirectly by burning through all of his Prana. berserkers are difficult servants to provide for, and since Neither of them are going to take the Medea route that Nidhogg will be taking, I weep for poor Cage.

I personally would like to see a fight between Lancer and Beast, Saber and Archer, Beast and Saber, Caster and Beast(talking about it got me pumped). As for team up's, I think Saber and Archer would make a good team, maybe Saber and Berserker, and possible Berserker and Beast, even though that would be Impossible to put into effect, ever. Thomas has a strong servant, true, but almost nobody will form an alliance with him because of how much of a fucked up nut Nidhogg is. Only one I can see doing that would be Jacob and Assassin, and that would only be for them to kill Thomas and take Beast out of the game before he kills more innocents.


No master can beat a servant? That's quite untrue. The priest can flat out 1 vs 1 most servants in this RP under special circumstances.
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Prana burst was suggested to me by someone else in the RP I originally made him for, on account of him being a dragon, and I think that he would technically count as a Divine Beast, plausibly, but he does have a down-grade, His more powerful curses will not be used very often, if at all, and it's why Nidhogg is best with a master that doesn't care for his eating of regular people. The amount of Prana that Thomas would have to give Beast in order to sustain his abilities would be quite a bit other wise, but as is, Nidhogg fuels the roots with those he kills. An that will be his main way of fighting, besides his claws and use of prana burst.


Yes if he is a dragon then he is a phantasmal beasts, and phantasmal beasts have prana burst as inherent abilities. Divine beasts are the same in essence, with just a few different nuances.

It does give him a significant power boost in the form of phantasmal pedigree and circuitry, but of course if he was a demon he might have a reality marble.

In the end, even Nidhogg is not a threat to our resident priest so its all good for me.
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I'm actually gonna say Huangdi matches Nidhogg here and probably beats him if the fight is in Huangdi's territory. I don't know what I'm going for in terms of personality restriction ( the guy is a benevolent ruler type), but it seems like Huangdi is medea tier which is really really good as a mage. His Gaia connection let's him spam phantasmal beasts like a dragon as much as he wants of course with the problem of him only being able to have one phantasmal beast.

On a side note, Eastern Dragons are capable of destroying the entire world in a rampage, but thankfully the grail can't summon them.


You underestimate what a Gaia connection does. Its literally a hotline to Gaia itself like that which nature spirits possess. Gaia essentially gives you just enough power to outmatch your opponent as well as effectively constantly replenishing magical energy. It's an extremely powerful skill to have(you should list this as a skill and not a noble phantasm btw).
Ah things I would like to point out. Noble phantasms do consume mana. Nidhogg using one of such power and scale WILL drain his reserves. If he was a phantasmal species he would have EX ranked mana to balance this out, but I'm not sure we can classify Nidhogg as one. Medusa is classified as a demon, and so would Nidhogg considering how similar they are. The 666 Beast is also classified as a demon. Unfortunately, demons outside of True Demons lack the same stat capacity as phantasmal species do. However, Raijin has given Nidhogg prana burst(?) which is unique to phantasmal beasts, so I am thinking he has Nidhogg pinned as a phantasmal beast(???).

Also, being summoned in the Holy Grail War does limit heroes in stats. There is a limit to what the grail can summon, hence why Heracles doesnt move mountains and gouge out chasms with each and every attack. Hence why Karna doesn't punch people with enough force to "shake the entire universe"(Yes, this is what happened in the Mahabarata).
And then a wild anti world noble phantasm appears!
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Worst comes to worst there's always an Anti-World Noble Phantasm (Not that any of us have one of those, but details)


The irony in this post lol~~~~
@TwilightDragondestroy it? it'd be too easy to go and just slice it all down. i'm thinking throwing the largest bomb she can highjack from a military base at it.


You'd be surprised at how prepared I am for such things. Expect that attack not to work. Either you go into the church as a master alone since heroic spirits can't enter its premises or you stay away lol.
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