@Raijinslayerfunnilly enough, looking at Tomoe vs most other servants feels a bit weak when you stack noble phantasms against one another. I'm thinking her madness is a rather large buff due to home field advantage and the fact her abilities are so small in comparison to everyone else. She is going to lose vs most people now that i think about it. If i can't add a few buffs with consent, she's going to be the most reserved beserker that we've seen.

As for tricking her into killing her master, that's a long shot if at all possible without the most blatantly op mind control. She may turn crazy, but her honor and loyalty never waver.

And on the topic of the previously mentioned buffs, anyone mind if i add a few things to her sheet? i'm feeling horribly outclassed...

@Raijinslayer well, i gave her a second phantasm because of the home field advantage, she only had one originally (her sword). but seeing what everyone else has makes me realize that she's kinda under powered unless i make her transformation and mad enhancement REALLY buff her.

@YandereClockI think we literally just missed each other, and do you think Nidhogg's Magic Resistance should be strong enough to be of use in Caster's Temple? Oh, and thanks and would the Caster's summoned Zombies be able to reform even after being eaten, I would think not but just want to be sure, since Nidhogg will be eating them all.

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Stay away from the church is my warning. Nidhogg is completely countered in every sense of the word against the priest now that I assessed his resources.

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Immediately available resources, Beast can always collect more, and they don't have to be human.

@YandereClockI think we literally just missed each other, and do you think Nidhogg's Magic Resistance should be strong enough to be of use in Caster's Temple? Oh, and thanks and would the Caster's summoned Zombies be able to reform even after being eaten, I would think not but just want to be sure, since Nidhogg will be eating them all.

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This is Heracles we are talking about, who deflected three A ranked ice spears that Rin made and was only killed when his A+ Strength grip was countered and he was surprised by FIVE A ranked blasts of light. Rin wanted to go overkill, as was specifically stated in the VN. She originally believed only 2 or 3 jewels was enough to beat Heracles, but Shirou and Saber forced her to use at least 5 in order to be safe.

One A ranked attack can easily destroy a servant if it hits directly. All of Medea's beams would have disintegrated Archer instantly. Kuzuki would not have lost that fight had he not killed Saber the first time he skirmished her. His Snake style is bred from a mountain assassin school in Fuyuki where literally all you do is train in assassination to kill the enemy in as short a time as possible. Its the ultimate assassination technique that focuses entirely on strangeness to confuse an opponent. Kuzuki himself does not match to servants, but his fighting style does. Bazett can defeat servants quite handily too.
Not many masters have been top grade in terms of modern potential anyway, with people like Uryuu and Waver and blah. It is extremely hard to defeat a servant of course, but its not as hard as you think it is. You just need to know some of the more obscure stuff around in the Nasuverse.

Morning guys~

I'm the last one that's left to put up their collaboration. :D

I mean Nise's and my collab With Sinia and Rider. ^^