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Oh sounds great I will be on that sorry for the amount of time it's been taking just been trying to get my hands on a Players handbook for 5th edition but now I'm using the Internet and my Google drive to use that stuff.


Always the best way ;-)
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Did you want me to double the prices of things or just leave them the same and did you want me to revise the weapons list and armours list?


Yes, and yes. Just double everything and make the equipment sound Norse and made out of crystals.
i still haven't figured a crest not good at making them


There's a few good generation sites.
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Wow. I can tell it took you a long time. I really like it. Also, are the other families you mentioned cadet branches of the house or some of your vassal houses?

As for German, I'm afraid I'm not very good at it myself


All vassal houses.
Alright, had a lot of internet issues, but I am in. My claim is those NW Isles, I am getting stuff up today.
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Spent 3+ hours on it, hope you enjoy! Any critiques welcome before I begin the bios. I also included vassals of note, but i will only be doing bios for the prominent titleholders, i.e. the adult male von Drosendorfs and Freidrich von Allensteig. Also, please correct my German.
BTW: Motto is 'Strength and Justice'
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Not quite what I had in mind, but okay.

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Not an issue what so ever. Günther von Drosendorf is not a problem, of course. I simply said if your family was already noble before getting fiefs in Manburg, it can keep it's French name regardless of gaining new territory in Germanic-speaking areas. As I said, I would prefer German family names since it is a German duchy, but I accept others, as well.


Great, thanks!
Chances are I won't start work on this until either tonight or tomorrow, but I will take up this task!


Thank you very kindly for doing so!
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In most cases a last name and family house name were separate things. In both French and German case with house names that have prefixes "zu", "von" or "de", these are not the surnames of family members. They simply mean from where their house comes from or which area they rule. For example, the person who founded my family house was a knight by the name Karl Schultz and he was granted a fief - a small village or Rastenburg. So when his house was founded his name literally meant "Karl of Rastenburg".

Even though the head of the house may have moved on to a different location (e.g I've become duke of Manburg), most houses didn't change the name accordingly because certain family names hold weight and are well renowned. Habsburgs are a prime example. French house of Valois hails from the old medieval region in northern France called Valois, hence the name. :)

If your family was French nobility before coming to Austria then their family name would still be French, e.g "de Fleurs" would simply mean you are from a town/castle/village of Fleurs (probably doesn't exist but it doesn't really matter) and could keep it despite owning land in Manburg.


I know that, but I mean my house should really be de/von Dobersburg instead of Fleurs, as that is the land I now have. Similarly to how you were Karl Schlutz, then Karl von Rastenburg because you inherited Rastenburg. Granted, even though you cahnged a bit, I would have de Paris or something, meaning that it actually existed. In any case I would like to edit my house name, as I had just thought of it as a fairly random last name before reading this. Either that or changing the County names, whhich I would assume would not be a good thing. If you would accept this, I will go with the title Günther von Drosendorf, as I planned to have it so that I was a disinherited son of a noble, who was sent to Manburg to become a knight, who was then given a fief and became Herr von Drosendorf. Note that I am flipping the story from what I would have done with French homeland to Austria, this is mostly because I felt like it but I could maintain de Fleurs or something French if the general issue here was solved. then, as Herr of Drosendorf, which became even more powerful and became a good name, I helped in the formation of the Duchy. Now as far as the issue of retaining the birth name, being that I was a fairly removed part of a lower noble house, who sent me away anyhow, it makes less sense that I would retain that name..
I know that is probably pretty complicated, but I think it makes sense. Does it?
Hm, I was looking here and noticed some things:
http://www.heraldica.org/topics/odegard/titlefaq.htm
The titles for everything is always: Jean, Comte de <Lastname, name which is alway equivalent to the place name>. This leaves me wondering if I should make my family name Dobersburg...
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