Unoedipal

Fate/Stagnant Apotheosis

Can I app a shadow monster that is actually the other side of my master so its actually just another aspect of her and not an entirely new character?

@kusanagifire

Not a World Terminal.

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It would have...unless KoL can take MY second character app? I'm happy with just Tamamo

@Lonewolf685

No.

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@Unoedipal

Despite of how good things are going, may I ask if I can potentially app a 3rd character, for things I've been planning with @Lonewolf685?

@KoL

Two characters is the max I'll allow.

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Stalking a certain darling. Any Servant slots still open? I love Fate Rps.

@KabenSaal

Sorry to say, but no slots for legitimate Servants are still open. As has been said, apping a non-Master magus or other party is fine, but the seven Master and Servant slots have been filled.

Ascension of Gods (High Casual) (Still Accepting)

Shamash

"Those who trawl on the land, crushing temples they brand as pagan and killing the garrisons of those who should otherwise be neutral, is something that has been Convicted. The return of your kind as a result has been judged white. Which is to say..."

Shamash let out a soft exhale as he looked in the direction of Sekhmet. "Just like that Black One of another land, who drank of Raktabija." He murmured to himself. Her nature was something that could be thought of as transcendentally terrifying. Even gods, were they unable to see the six sides of a die in simultaneity, would agree with that notion. Still...she was not of the make that ought to be Convicted.

As a result, other methods were necessary to calm the God down. Were she to go to the natural terminus of her actions, Conviction would be necessary, and Shamash wished to avoid that.

From outside the bounds of the mad wind and flame that aimed to consume all, something appeared to oppose it. Eleventh of the Thirteen Winds, Frost. To use it in its full might would harm more than hurt, with the area simply becoming an area simultaneously frozen by the wind and made ashen by the flame, but even in the weakened state that it blew in, it would be enough to mitigate and delay the scorching flame of Sekhmet's fire.

This, however, was merely a shoddy treatment of a symptom. To even call it "effective" was an overstatement; it was simply a bandage tied over an amputated limb, a piece of paper used as a dam. What was important, then, was to stop the disease itself while the dam held fast for an instant.

"Calm yourself, Eye of Ra. Indiscriminate killing will result in Conviction, should it go too far."

From Shamash's body, light appeared, bending from the outward face it should have adopted under reality to orient itself towards Sekhmet. It was not to destroy; after all, in terms of destructive ability, Shamash was nothing noteworthy, let along when compared to beings such as Sekhmet. In the first place, he was not one whose role was combat.

Rather, this was to purify. Sekhmet's bloodlust was something that had historically only been sated by more blood, but culling away the bloodlust entirely wasn't needed. Rather, it would be better if some was retained for the time being.

With the light of the "Sun that purifies" aiming to corrode at that mindless bloodlust and return it into a bloodlust with reason, one oriented at those who deserved such, the god of the Fertile Crescent spoke.

"I and my others have spoken on the current state of affairs. We wish to help you take your land back, as we are staged to begin doing the same."

The trace of a smile showing on a youthful face, the proposition was made.

@Hamstrong @Severe Triage

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Nah, the thing is that you don't know how Crests work but think you do. I even used examples of Kayneth and Zouken to try and explain how these things work. If you felt there wasn't clarity, you should ask for clarifications. Otherwise, I have no reason to assume I'm being misleading.

encyclopedic research

@KoL

Counter Magic

@KoL

Sure, okay.

Anyway yeah, if you're not continuing to object then have fun~

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I had placed it on her CS, you was the one who made me drop it saying that it was too much knowledge even though it was stated that most of that was part of her Crest.

Please don't strawman me.

Knowledge of Northern Europe curses and witchcraft, including the Gandr curse (her Finn Shot is about as powerful as Rin's) and how to place Geis over a target;

This was what you had on the original CS. You also had it among about six other Magic Foundations, General Magecraft, her Origin magecraft, and five elemental Magic Foundations. I explained that a family won't "specialize" in that many different foundations, and they usually focus on two or three key things and do those things really well, plus a smattering of general individual spells.

If you had an objection to removing curses or wanted to keep a specific curse, you should have voiced that. Again, the onus was all on you to put something in the section if you wanted to keep it. I don't get how you thought that stayed there when it was taken out by your choice.

It also doesn't help that you're lying to me.

all she needs is her contract making material to a Self-Geis scroll.

@KoL

The original CS only explicitly called out a Geis, not a Self-Geis Scroll. They're completely different, as I hope you know since you even said as much on the previous page. And before you say "I just said it included Gandr and Geis, it also included the scroll", if you had insisted on keeping that section in, I would've mandated much more clarity on it, the first step of which was when I asked:

What do Northern European curses focus on? IE physical degradation, mental degradation, etc.

And even if you refuse to acknowledge all of that, it doesn't change the fact that the Magecraft section's description explicitly calls out that everything should go there and if it's not there, you don't have it. Even if you hate Seyrun's current CS, you're the one who wrote it and apped it. The burden of making the character falls on the person who made the character. If you added "Creation of Self-Geis scroll" as something she knows because she spent a few months studying how to do it, then that would have been fine, but you didn't.

Do not blame me for your decisions. All I did was say that you had too much breadth, I didn't tell you explicitly what you could and could not put in. All of those decisions were made by you.

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But self geis isn't the same thing as normal geass, you are surrendering your own free will and binding the terms of the contract to your magic crest. This is knowledge that any magus with a crest should have, that's why I wanted about magical crests waaay before.

@KoL

Self-Geis Scroll – one of the most merciless contract magecrafts that would only be used in the treacherous society of magi when a contract that absolutely cannot be disobeyed was to be made.

It is an enforced curse that forcibly uses the functions of one’s own Magic Crests upon oneself. Theoretically, it has a power that cannot be erased by any method. Even if the caster lost his life, the Magic Crests would bind the soul of the dead man and would not pass down the generations. It is a very dangerous magecraft. For magi, a parley that involves offering such a declaration would in fact mean a maximal concession.

Although it wasn’t something Kayneth often saw, it was indeed proper in the way it was written, with no loopholes.

It's a curse that binds through the Crest. By that same logic, everyone with Circuits should know Spiritual Surgery, but that isn't the case either.

If it is a curse, and you do not know the curse, you cannot use the curse. It's really that simple.

The whole point of doing a higher generation magus is to have some flexibly because of a crest loaded with centuries worth of magecraft lore. If this isn't possible, I don't see a point of doing a character like Seyrun at all. I remember very well when I asked @Unoedipal about this.

I don't see what your argument is. I don't know how much clearer I could have been in the character sheet when I stated that everything from individual spells to High-Speed Aria to Magic Crest characteristics should go in there, and that if it's not in there then you don't know how to do it.

The onus is on you to put a spell in there if you want a spell to be in there. That's really all there is to it. I explained rather clearly that if a spell isn't there, it isn't known. Curses are spells. The curse you want to use isn't there. You could have put it there but did not. Ergo, you can't use the curse you want to use.

I'm sorry but yeah, if you misunderstood the description for the magecraft section then I really don't know what to tell you.

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Q: Where does Touko go to buy tools related to magecraft? <Yururi>

Nasu: She orders everything from Dark Amazon, the giant organization seeking a monopoly on distribution in the magic world. Even the bigwigs at the Association are beginning feeling a sense of impending crisis at the way they’re gobbling up markets for magical items one after another.
Takeuchi: And the way they gather so much personal information on magi that shop with them is pretty nasty, too.
Nasu: “Look, this Aozaki Touko customer buys everything the Good Smile Company releases! HAHAHAHA, she’s a goddamn lolicon!” …Like that?

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You can always order a scroll off Dark Amazon, but it'll take a while to get there and everyone else will be notified of its delivery.