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Hidden 11 yrs ago Post by DEMoGorgon47
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Make any npc's you'd like! Also, since I have a half day of school today, I can finish my NS, approve the other applications, and make a first post. Woo!
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Sounds good, matey. And peek at the Goblin Territories if you would; that's the NPC app. I made.
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Hoorah! Great to hear Demo! I will have an NPC nation up later for you to place wherever you want on the map. I got an idea in mind.
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Here is my NPC nation thanks to warhammer for the idea and sorry for the over-reliance on warhammer models they were my original inspiration for this npc nation so all of the units come from them (warning for demogorgon i warn you the planes get a bit diesel punky due to the jet engines on the first two but imagine instead a nice pretty prop plane :D)
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Added everything to my NS except the military. Y'all please look at it and tell me how it is. I think it is pretty balanced but I don't want to be the god-like GM that ruins the fun so feel free to tell me.
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DEMoGorgon47 said
Added everything to my NS except the military. Y'all please look at it and tell me how it is. I think it is pretty balanced but I don't want to be the god-like GM that ruins the fun so feel free to tell me.


Looks great so far, but the Automatic Rifle seems redundant and pointless. Not even mentioning your own restrictions on weapons on the era, wouldn't a large, heavy, cumbersome, failure prone weapon fine little use in a army of typically weaker individuals? I don't know, that's all that really caught my eye. That and the number 6 gun (The obvious Chicago Typewriter I assume?), if its a smaller bullet, than it ain't even a rifle. And once again, what's the practicality of having that? I would assume that a race of weaker physical strength that excels in speed and CQC combat would focus on lighter, compact weaponry like small calibre submachine guns and light weight lever action rifles of some sort. Also the semi automatics didn't really see the light of day until the late "30s" once again going over the limit in tech cap. I mean it would not be in the least bit surprising nor out of the ordinary to see mussel loaded rifles still in use. The infantry weapons that you talk about for the most part range from late 30s/early 40s to early 50s weaponry in terms of arms.

Anyway, other than that, I don't see anything else wrong with it so far.
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Lever actions were really only a civilian weapon (except some minor use during the late 1800s) most armies during the 20s had bolt action or maybe semi auto carbines infact quite alot of countires used bolt actions well into world war II (British and russian being the most previlant in these having the enfields and mosin nagant). assault rifles didnt really get used alot (they did exist the earliest example of them which i can find the is federov avtomat circa 1915 but 3,200 where made and barely any saw use during WWI and where mainly used during the russian civil war and the resulting war against finland) until after world war 2 (the germans where the first to really promote their widespread use with the stg 44) even then it took the americans until 62 that americans started using assault rifles.
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thorgili said
Lever actions were really only a civilian weapon (except some minor use during the late 1800s) most armies during the 20s had bolt action or maybe semi auto carbines infact quite alot of countires used bolt actions well into world war II (British and russian being the most previlant in these having the enfields and mosin nagant). assault rifles didnt really get used alot (they did exist the earliest example of them which i can find the is federov avtomat circa 1915 but 3,200 where made and barely any saw use during WWI and where mainly used during the russian civil war and the resulting war against finland) until after world war 2 (the germans where the first to really promote their widespread use with the stg 44) even then it took the americans until 62 that americans started using assault rifles.


Indeed indeed. I guess the all around point we're making is Demo needs to read his own rules. XD

Though thorgill, you have to note we aren't paralleling real life by much so just because lever actions only saw civilian use for a majority of the time doesn't mean steampunk like nations that ride on unicorns, fly airships, and build giant moving fortresses wouldn't use them ;)

But let's hold off on this discussion until Demo responds.
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hehe you do have a good point kilo :P
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Kilo6 said
Indeed indeed. I guess the all around point we're making is Demo needs to read his own rules. XD Though thorgill, you have to note we aren't paralleling real life by much so just because lever actions only saw civilian use for a majority of the time doesn't mean steampunk like nations that ride on unicorns, fly airships, and build giant moving fortresses wouldn't use them ;) But let's hold off on this discussion until Demo responds.


I'll just quote Kilo to save myself some time. I removed the large rifle and edited the other one (it doesn't see widespread use, to avoid OPness, though I know for a fact the Germans made a gun similar to it, the predecessor of the MP40, but like I said, I'll keep that one on the downlow). The semi-auto multi-purpose rifle has been down graded to mostly bolt-action, with a few upgraded to semi-auto. Like Kilo suggested, a lot of carbine version exist as well. Sorry about my overstepping, I believe I researched the most cutting edge of weapons at the time (as forms of what I had described did exist in one form). But realistically, who has all the best of stuff? So I nerfed them to keep it fair.

I'll add the rest of my military now.
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Also, quick question; I've noticed a lot of people using tanks, what size are they aboutish? As they would have to be a bit larger to support the steam engines and boilers required to power them.

I'd say this size ratio would be acceptable for tanks

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/105/f/e/steampunk_tank_by_winterstalker-d3e2ijy.jpg
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Well the first two tanks would be roughly the size of the British Mark V tank with the TH-12 being somewhat bigger and the TV-4 being slightly smaller.

Then of course the VB-1 is essentially a slightly larger, steam powered version of the French Char B1.

So I guess if were using the average size of the steam tanks based off the example picture above, Arkil tanks would be on the smaller side (with only having a smaller profile as an advantage in comparison. And even then they aren't exactly hard targets XD)
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Sooo I uhh, hate to be the one who sounds a little impatient, but uhhh.... when do we start this?
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I do agree i cant wait to get this started..
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Here is the map

http://i.imgur.com/cC5VpOY.png?1?7232

I shall make the first post now, though mine will really be an intro post, as I have to go to a dinner tonight and have to get ready
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Posted, have at it you guys! I will make a real post later tonight, but don't wait up for me! Have a blast with it! Also, obviously all nations are approved for use, just remember to play fair, and lets not have too much war within the first few posts.
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Ah, sorry DEMoGorgon47. I don't think I'll be able to join this.
As much as I try to create a nation, I'm drawing up blanks. Unfortunately, for someone such as I, it's usually a bad sign if I can't get inspired and enthusiastic enough to start whipping out a couple of ideas. Please forgive me, but I do hope this NRP can continue for a long time.
Have fun.
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DEMoGorgon47 said
Posted, have at it you guys! I will make a real post later tonight, but don't wait up for me! Have a blast with it! Also, obviously all nations are approved for use, just remember to play fair, and lets not have too much war within the first few posts.


YEEEEEAAAAH! Will be posting soon! You should probably PM some of the other RPers as a reminder.

Keia Vewyx said
Ah, sorry DEMoGorgon47. I don't think I'll be able to join this. As much as I try to create a nation, I'm drawing up blanks. Unfortunately, for someone such as I, it's usually a bad sign if I can't get inspired and enthusiastic enough to start whipping out a couple of ideas. Please forgive me, but I do hope this NRP can continue for a long time.Have fun.


NuuuuuuU~! Keia! Pwease come baaaaack!
Naaahhh, I get what you mean. Hope ya get some sort of inspiration for this soon or something!
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I'll make a post tomorrow, I think. I have to finish up a couple posts for two other threads tonight. The opening post will mostly be a nation introduction and the sending of emissaries... or the receiving of them, if anyone negotiates with Qalimeq first.
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Meeky said
I'll make a post tomorrow, I think. I have to finish up a couple posts for two other threads tonight. The opening post will mostly be a nation introduction and the sending of emissaries... or the receiving of them, if anyone negotiates with Qalimeq first.


Same here i shall try toget a post up by the marrow
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