Hidden 11 yrs ago Post by LittleRedPanda
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Somebody else run it please D: I wanna make a red panda character :3
Hidden 11 yrs ago Post by Rin
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So... Anyone willing to try running it?

Were it not for the fact that I'm a terrible GM, I would offer. XD
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I would if I wasn't already buried up to my eyeballs.
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Perhaps I will. If I do, I'll post a link here.
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Looking forward to it if you do!

...And now that I have the avatar I wanted I won't feel like i'm cheating this time around. ^^;
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.. Let me see if I got this correctly. One rp creates a basic idea that takes the players into other worlds that are trademarked and calls it a fan-based creation, thus breaking copyright laws. They also allow for people to take avatars that are probably copyrighted by an artist, and creates a character based on it. (Yes it IS technically illegal, its just that no one cares, including the copyright owners such as Nintendo in case of a pokemon rp. They will probably not sue you, though technically they could. See the Berne convention.) ... But then, someone else comes around and makes a second rp based the very same idea, only to be hindered because... Of copyright. Because the 'original creator' of that rp (hint: they aren't, the real have been running on deviant art for much longer than five years just to name an example) don't want 'their concept' 'stolen'.

I hope I somehow misunderstood because otherwise this has to be the most hypocritical drama I've ever heard of during all my years of roleplaying. What the bloodied hell.

That being said, I might possibly join if this kicks off.
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Wulfenheart said
.. Let me see if I got this correctly. One rp creates a basic idea that takes the players into other worlds that are trademarked and calls it a fan-based creation, thus breaking copyright laws. They also allow for people to take avatars that are probably copyrighted by an artist, and creates a character based on it. (Yes it IS technically illegal, its just that no one cares, including the copyright owners such as Nintendo in case of a pokemon rp. They will probably not sue you, though technically they could. See the Berne convention.) ... But then, someone else comes around and makes a second rp based the very same idea, only to be hindered because... Of copyright. Because the 'original creator' of that rp (hint: they aren't, the real have been running on deviant art for much longer than five years just to name an example) don't want 'their concept' 'stolen'.I hope I somehow misunderstood because otherwise this has to be the most hypocritical drama I've ever heard of during all my years of roleplaying. What the bloodied hell. That being said, I might possibly join if this kicks off.


You're in luck then.
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Yep. I made yet another copyright-infringing, art-thefting (btw, here's my two cents: MY pic is one I "bought" from an art contest I created.) fanfic roleplay. The link Lost Cause posted leads to it.

EDIT: Not saying Wulfensomething is a meanie, I know s/he was being sarcastic, I just tried to go along with it and it ended badly.
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I'm not saying that fanplays is something bad, I run a couple myself, that's not what irks me. All I'm saying is that if rp A wants to use other peoples ideas, and think that they can somehow stop rp B from doing the same, aka-stealing-other-peoples-ideas-too, as if it somehow only THEN becomes a moral greyzone, then that sounds like a bad joke and I hope they're kidding. Their multiverse idea is no less or more original than the universes they're using to play in in the first place, so the hypocricy is what putting a bad taste in my mouth here. Nothing against the idea itself, just the thought that they have some sort of exclusive right to it when they're already breaking the greyzone themselves.
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I edited my post.
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Since the creators of the original game seem to be OK with the 2.0 version, don't mind me and my rambling. I'm not trying to cause drama, just saying.
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I'm going to post a response, just so my position, intentions, and opinions are clear. Note that much of this information could be biased, coming as it is from the OP for this thread. I will endeavor to make plain what parts are fact, as best I can determine them.

I do not hold any grievance towards the "Originals" (the first "Multiverse: You are the Character" members and creators). I did not come up with an original concept for this RP. I saw the old RP on this site a long time ago (before I even registered, and obviously before The Great Guildfall of 1-2014), noticed it again on TVTropes, and thought it would be fun to join. I poked around on the site to see if it was alive. Failing to find it, I asked on the IRC a few times to see if there was anyone around who was involved with the original RP. Having failed to contact any of the Originals in this manner, I took it upon myself to recreate it.

Had I thought to search for the users involved, or perhaps create a thread in Spam, I may have ended up in contact with the Originals and therefore would not have created this RP.

From the Originals' point of view, as best I understand it, here's what happened: They started "Multiverse You are the Character", here on Roleplayer Guild. It failed. Someone re-started it. It went spectacularly. So spectacularly, in fact, and drawing so many members to it, that they felt it merited its own website. After (some number of years, I imagine), they created their own website, and moved the RP there. Then along comes me, recreating the same roleplay (almost explicitly) with the same title. That could be an issue; especially considering how it seems like I was stealing potential RP'ers from them.

That seemed silly to me; after all, I just wanted to play as my Siren-based avatar. Now realizing that their RP was still alive, I decided to try and redirect interest toward them.

I do not, personally, believe that anybody has ill-will directed towards anybody else for whatever reason. So let's not make that mistake.


Now, seeing the previous arguments here, I can see the potential for a separate, inspired by Multiverse You are the Character. I even laid a few potential roots down for it, with my characters-from-franchises are deities (more or less) angle. I think that's fine, as long as the original RP is noted as an inspiration. However, I'm pretty full-up on RP's at the moment; further, I'd like to distance myself from the drama that (I see) this thread attracting.

On that note, I'd like to recommend two actions:
  1. Creation of a separate RP (not by me). People seem to be doing this naturally. Good.
  2. Creation of an Off-Topic Discussion thread so we have a forum to civilly and informedly talk about some of the interesting points this incident raises. Such as: at what point does an RP become no longer associated with the Guild? When it makes a new website?; Is there an unspoken rule of RP "copyright infringement"? These topics seem interesting to me and important to more than just us.
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I suppose if no one else wants to GM I can. I just would need ideas on what our characters should go through. Cuz I have no clue
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