Animus said
#2. Players need to align entries. If player 1 made an entry saying playing 3 will be at X location on X day, player 2 shouldn't make the exact same entry saying player 3 is elsewhere on X location on X day.

I guess, I'm pretty much OK with your suggestions apart from this one because I can see it causing a lot of trouble. What if the writer behind Player 3 doesn't want to be at X Location on X day and thinks their character would never do that anyway, regardless they'll have been power played into doing it.

Jester Acharis said
The entire premise is that only one person can become God, and the players are told to kill each other for that purpose. Not everyone is willing to go that route, of course, but that doesn't change that it's the idea of the game. I never talked about any of their motivations. I think you're just trying too hard to find something to complain about, to be honest. I've seen you do this before.Light's way would make it feel like Mirai Nikki and not a general "look baddies let's kill them" jrpg, yes. Not really sure why you decided to be all dramatic about it. ... Did... you actually read what I wrote, or are you just really desperate to miss the point on purpose? Because what I said was: it makes no sense for people to team with a bunch of others right off the bat in a game where only one can survive - because that would inevitably lead to backstabbing and needing to kill your teammates in the end. I can see it happening between people who know each other and in a smaller scale, but all the PC characters just deciding that this is a good idea? Unlikely. They would need to be like a really close family or something.What you said was: omg do you think people would be okay with killing that easily Mary Sue Battle Royale CAPS LOCK. Do you see the... disconnection here?... That... was my point. I think you should just breathe and reread what I wrote a few times.Because not doing things the way you would is ridiculous. I love that sentiment. I've been in a lot of rps where PC character death was a thing. I've had it happen to me. It's fun. And you know, if the entire premise says that your character might die, I'd like to think the people joining would be prepared for that. If you don't feel like you could ever kill off your character for whatever reason then pity for you. You're missing out and should probably get more detached from your characters.Now how about you stop trying to start crap (again) and let people have their view on stuff, yeah? I'm at least going to stop debating about this. Don't want to clog up the thread anymore with this. I like Animus' suggestions, btw!

Hey, I'm not properly replying to your post because it seems like you took personal offense to what I said. I'm not sure where you've seen me "complain" about things before but I won't let you drag me into a petty argument. Try not to be so sensitive, OK. Discussions about a RPs dynamics are good but not when someone makes them sour.

Anyway, what are everyone's ideas for their Diaries? Hehe.

Not sure where you saw personal offense in that one, to be honest, when I was just replying to your points. Rather, you're the one who saw it necessary to caps lock and call someone's opinion "ridiculous" because they weren't the same as yours. Which... yeah. Looks exactly like the other thread that got closed because of an argument you started. No, I wasn't part of the thread nor did I ever post there, but since it was something I was contemplating to join, yeah, saw it.

Don't want this to end the same way, so yeah, not going to feed the troll. I saw where it led people the last time. Shouldn't have graced your first post with a response, either, that was totally my bad. Sorry, BioHazard.

So, to be on topic, regardless of which plot idea (pvp or team) the rp goes with in the end, would people be playing multiple characters? In the former it would be good since there'd most likely be character death (and that was the original idea, yeah?) in the latter many people probably wouldn't want to sign up only for the antagonist side due to the inevitable death and all, so it'd make sense there, too.

Jester, that argument was started by Lost Cause and Rainah Daze because they didn't like something to do with my accepted character. For anyone questioning whether or not I'm a troll, I would be happy to link you to the thread where it's clear they were in the wrong.

Jester, can't you see that you're the one making this discussion personal? You've quite literally attacked me for using caps lock and saying the word "ridiculous". Hehe. Stop being so sensitive. You're making this discussion into an argument when it doesn't need to be. Light and I were having a heated debate but we never got personal about it. As with you, I never got personal about it. No one but you took anything to heart. You are the one who has turned a heated but ultimately harmless discussion into a personal attack against me. I haven't been trying to insult you, Jester. So try and relax and be mature.

I would have to sit on a character idea before I make up a theme for their diary. In my opinion, the diary needs to compliment who the character is as a human being, not the other way around. I'd want to fully finish my CS before I make the diary.

Jester and Sunshine, I'm pretty sure that Sunshine's idea was already down voted. And to be honest, I also like Animus' idea more than my own. But seeing how the OP hasn't decided on one of the three ideas, continuing to debate about it or other personal matters is completely useless. We've all argued our sides and players have chosen their sides. All we can do now is wait, if we're going to be playing together, let's not be at each other's throats about demeanor during a heated debate.

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Back to the Diary discussion, obviously coming up with our own designs is the best route, but if it suits a character's persona, I think using a style of Diary in the anime that fits should be ok. The cellphone Diaries should be a default if anything.

You're right, I shouldn't have used that example. I just wanted to explain how diaries should not contradict each other when noone has acted to change the future.

Also, lets all stop the whole argument and just pretend we never happened.

And ooh ooh, I was thinking of a 'mission' diary! All the entries will be based the current 'mission'. E.g. to investigate X person. The diary entries are 1-2 lines explaining different checkpoints of a mission. Sorta like entry 1: "Stalking X was a failure. Lost him when he got off the bus. 6.35PM", entry 2: "Discovered X's address by hacking into the local police database. 9:50PM."

It'd be really powerful and useful for completing objectives. The drawback would be that it only predicted stuff related to the mission. It might give an entry like "Killed when chasing after X. 4:30PM." so I could avoid death but entries would stop there unless I resumed activities and acted to achieve the mission. To receive new entries, I can abandon the mission but afterwards I can no longer take up the same mission.

So if 'investigating X failed' so I could receive new entries, I can no longer take up 'investigating X' as a mission again.

I think its pretty unique and sounds balanced.

Light said
I would have to sit on a character idea before I make up a theme for their diary. In my opinion, the diary needs to compliment who the character is as a human being, not the other way around. I'd want to fully finish my CS before I make the diary.

Hahaha, you and I are obviously complete opposites. Light and dark. I've thought of the diary first and will think of a character to compliment the diary. Heh.

Light said Jester and Sunshine, I'm pretty sure that Sunshine's idea was already down voted. And to be honest, I also like Animus' idea more than my own. But seeing how the OP hasn't decided on one of the three ideas, continuing to debate about it or other personal matters is completely useless. We've all argued our sides and players have chosen their sides. All we can do now is wait, if we're going to be playing together, let's not be at each other's throats about demeanor during a heated debate.Back to the Diary discussion, obviously coming up with our own designs is the best route, but if it suits a character's persona, I think using a style of Diary in the anime that fits should be ok. The cellphone Diaries should be a default if anything.

I agree. Additionally, I've changed my stance on the matters anyway, hahaha! Even if I miraculously managed to change everyone's minds it would be silly because we've got a lot of people now! This many people can't team up, Heh. The very last thing I'm going to say about this matter is: Before, when there didn't seem to be a lot of interest and there were only four of us, my idea would have been the best option in my opinion but now that there is a lot of us a combination of Light and Animus' would be better.

Animus said
You're right, I shouldn't have used that example. I just wanted to explain how diaries should not contradict each other when noone has acted to change the future.Also, lets all stop the whole argument and just pretend we never happened.And ooh ooh, I was thinking of a 'mission' diary! All the entries will be based the current 'mission'. E.g. to investigate X person. The diary entries are 1-2 lines explaining different checkpoints of a mission. Sorta like entry 1: "Stalking X was a failure. Lost him when he got off the bus. 6.35PM", entry 2: "Discovered X's address by hacking into the local police database. 9:50PM."It'd be really powerful and useful for completing objectives. The drawback would be that it only predicted stuff related to the mission. It might give an entry like "Killed when chasing after X. 4:30PM." so I could avoid death but entries would stop there unless I resumed activities and acted to achieve the mission. To receive new entries, I can abandon the mission but afterwards I can no longer take up the same mission.So if 'investigating X failed' so I could receive new entries, I can no longer take up 'investigating X' as a mission again.I think its pretty unique and sounds balanced.

I really like that! Haha. I was thinking about a "Social Network" diary.

Oops, double post again. Look up. :)

@Light: Yeah, I figured his/her idea was already voted down as well, but just wanted to check the multiple character thing for both ideas just in case, since the GM hasn't made their decision yet. Figured it'd be fair and such. But yeah, don't worry, like I said, I won't feed the troll anymore. The guy/gal even tried to send me spammy PMs, so at this point I'm just done trying to talk to sensibly to him/her.

Pretending it didn't happen sounds cool. Gonna do that.

As for diary ideas, I kind of also tie them to character ideas, since they're usually kinda big part of their personality/life/so on. But, since I meant to join this rp once before, I got two ideas from last time. One (partly comic relief) idea I had for a diary was something like a teenager diary. So... basically a teenage girl rambling about everything irrelevant in her diary, you all know the cliche. I had a few ways that could translate into the predictions themselves, but I haven't yet decided on anything solid. And another one was a more mundane one, a Success Diary for a multimillionare dude, predicting which one of his decisions would be good and what wouldn't.

Animus said
You're right, I shouldn't have used that example. I just wanted to explain how diaries should not contradict each other when noone has acted to change the future.Also, lets all stop the whole argument and just pretend we never happened.And ooh ooh, I was thinking of a 'mission' diary! All the entries will be based the current 'mission'. E.g. to investigate X person. The diary entries are 1-2 lines explaining different checkpoints of a mission. Sorta like entry 1: "Stalking X was a failure. Lost him when he got off the bus. 6.35PM", entry 2: "Discovered X's address by hacking into the local police database. 9:50PM."It'd be really powerful and useful for completing objectives. The drawback would be that it only predicted stuff related to the mission. It might give an entry like "Killed when chasing after X. 4:30PM." so I could avoid death but entries would stop there unless I resumed activities and acted to achieve the mission. To receive new entries, I can abandon the mission but afterwards I can no longer take up the same mission.So if 'investigating X failed' so I could receive new entries, I can no longer take up 'investigating X' as a mission again.I think its pretty unique and sounds balanced.

It seems like you already got a good balance on it, but I'd like to reinforce that a diary like that should not be able to tell you how to complete the prediction, only that it was done. So for "learned about X by hacking database Y" shouldn't tell you how to get to that data base or how to hack it.

I can't believe that didn't cross my mind when I was thinking of a diary.

Jester Acharis said
But yeah, don't worry, like I said, I won't feed the troll anymore. The guy/gal even tried to send me spammy PMs, so at this point I'm just done trying to talk to sensibly to him/her.

Jester, you need to stop. Is anyone going to back me up here? This guy is just being a jerk now. I've not done anything wrong.

Oh and just so everyone is clear, the PMs were as follows:

Sunshine said
Chill out.

Sunshine said
Just reiterate what is being said in the Thread: Light and I were having a heated debate but we never got personal about it. As with you, I never got personal about it. No one but you took anything to heart. You are the one who has turned a heated but ultimately harmless discussion into a personal attack against me. I haven't been trying to insult you, Jester. So try and relax and be mature.

Light said
It seems like you already got a good balance on it, but I'd like to reinforce that a diary like that should not be able to tell you how to complete the prediction, only that it was done. So for "learned about X by hacking database Y" shouldn't tell you how to get to that data base or how to hack it.

Yeah, agreed with that, but I think the example actually got it down pretty well, since it only said "hacked into the local police database". Even if it did mention which database it was, it didn't mention the methods to do it, so it looks petty good to me.

It'd be hilarious though, if the diary tried to explain in detail how the hacking happened. That would take so long to read through.

But yeah, it sounds cool, if a bit confusing in case you change missions often. If you don't though, should work.

I was just making sure that it was known that it should be that way.

I'm not going to take sides but I believe both people should drop the topic and any lingering animosity towards each other.

Cuz both of you are gonna be in this RP so you might as well cuddle and have sex or sumtins idkwadevsandbehappy. Or kill each other in the RP, thats fair.

I don't intend for my character to change missions often. I mean diaries are based off your characters and a person obsessed enough to make a 'mission diary' would be that guy who wants to unlock all achievements in a game, even if it meant spending hours and hours of time.

But don't you understand that it's upsetting to read that someone is calling you a troll? Do you think I can enjoy myself whilst he's being a jerk. I've been mature about this the whole time but it's getting difficult to remain composed now.

Well if Jester continues on then I'll definitely be on your side.

For now, you should download Flappy Bird on the appstore and commence the addiction.

@Light: Yeah, I know, no worries. Just wanted Animus to know it looks good so far in that front and all.

@Animus: Heh, true that. Mission diary instantly brought to mind an ex-military dude a bit too bent on his old job, but a dedicated gamer sounds like it might work too. Or you can make it both; after retiring from the army, the guy spends his time playing COD and hunting achievements since he missed his youth and army days so much.

I have a hard time thinking of a medium for the Success Diary, since I really want to avoid using the standard phone or the standard book + lock combination. Meh. What would a rich man write his successes on? Maybe he could be writing an auto-biography. So a book. But no lock.

Animus said
Well if Jester continues on then I'll definitely be on your side.For now, you should download Flappy Bird on the appstore and commence the addiction.

Brilliant, thanks.

Speaking of birds, I'd love to see the Medieval Raven Diary, a Raven that delivers a prediction to you every fortnight written in Shakespearean English. Hehe.

That sounds like really funky diary. And weak. Like that little kid with that crappy 3 simple predictions per day.

I can't imagine what sort of weirdo the diary owner would be.

He'd be like, a really quirky, whimsical homeless man with a tin foil hat.