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SssssshhhhhWe don't discuss that here. Heretic.


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Posted. Take that Keiko! Iyana ain't no child :P
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Iyana is in love with Keiko.
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Naw lol xD
She just really dislikes being underestimated, and it was fairly apparent that Keiko was doing so. She loves proving people wrong, so she did so ^_^ :3
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It's like the crushes you get in kindergarten when you compete with your love interest and taunt them.

Let her down easy, Ko-chan!

What? That is totally untrue, lol. Keiko just said she was an immature child(those were her private thoughts, mind you), which she is. >_> She didn't comment on her skill level, that was Iyana being doubtful of little Keiko.

I would also like to add Keiko is still unimpressed since probably no one would have landed their attacks or did their attacks unscathed had she not restrained the beast with awesome mokuton.
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First off lafreeze would get rekt by kyle rayner or hell even superman prime. Second of all comic and anime power scaling isn't very different, at all. If anything Squirrel Girl could defeat any anime character ever.


I was just joking around lol Larfleeze is just awesome in my opinion even if he can't school everyone
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It's like the crushes you get in kindergarten when you compete with your love interest and taunt them. Let her down easy, Ko-chan!What? That is totally untrue, lol. Keiko just said she was an immature child(those were her private thoughts, mind you), which she is. >_> She didn't comment on her skill level, that was Iyana being doubtful of little Keiko.I would also like to add Keiko is still unimpressed since probably no one would have landed their attacks or did their attacks unscathed had she not restrained the beast with awesome mokuton.


The Shukaku may be powerful, but the thing is slow and it doesn't have any special sensory (not from any documented case at least). Iyana came from above and is vastly faster than the thing. I planned for her to do that regardless.

I also had Shijima, who had he not been beaten to the punch, would have sunk the Shukaku's legs into that sinkhole before Keiko used her vines.

I'm aware of the fact that Keiko never actually said anything to Iyana. However, Iyana has been dealing with people like her for most of her life. She's used to people underestimating her, or thinking she's immature. There are immature parts of her, and it is true that her toughness is something of a protective mechanism to hide her insecurities, but it'd not be enough to really consider her childish or immature. She is crude and has less tact than most, but that doesn't necessarily make her immature.

Also keep in mind that Iyana is not a mind reader so she was reading body language, which is a good indicator of emotion and reaction towards people. She can do that due to kinda being a taijutsu specialist at her core. Kinda comes with the skill set. So yeah she assumed that Keiko was underestimating her, or looking down on her (one of which is kinda true) because that's what it seemed like.

I never claimed that Iyana's conclusion that she was being underestimated was correct. That's just what she thinks.
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Shukaku has extremely fast wind attacks, if you were looking for speed.
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Shukaku has extremely fast wind attacks, if you were looking for speed.


Doesn't count as movement, and that is Shukaku with a host. The Bijuu are stupider when they don't have a host. Also keep in mind that it'd have to choose between Izari, Shijima, Remi, the Queen, Keiko, AND Iyana in terms of using those wind attacks.
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Doesn't count as movement, and that is Shukaku with a host. The Bijuu are stupider when they don't have a host.


They can still use techniques like that which are 'fast'. They don't have to be controlled to use techniques and we know for a fact that Shukaku can use wind techniques. The point is that it could hit super-fast people too.
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The biggest threat to the Shukaku (who is likely running on pure instinct due to its lack of a host atm) would be the Queen, Nerfert (I think was its name), NOT Iyana, who was far enough away to evade or defend against an attack, as well as high above the beast before she plummetted down at it (after it is distracted by a fireball, at the very least).
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My point was that, Iyana is the one who underestimated Keiko, lol. All Keiko did was sigh and ignore her, because she didn't feel like talking about what she did in battle. o.O Keiko doesn't even think about Iyana...like, at all, because she doesn't know her. So to someone like Keiko who keeps to herself, and doesn't boast. She thinks Iyana is immature and childish. It kind of seems like Iyana wants to be underestimated, because Keiko is often underestimated, but she keeps to herself and prefers it that way. Keiko and Iyana are the same in that sense, but one likes to 'prove' people wrong while the other doesn't mind it.

Keiko didn't sigh and turn away from Iyana, because she underestimated her, btw. She turned away, because again... Keiko didn't feel the need to address those comments. When did I say Keiko had underestimated Iyana or have her imply that? o.O It's not 'kinda' true.
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They can still use techniques like that which are 'fast'. They don't have to be controlled to use techniques and we know for a fact that Shukaku can use wind techniques. The point is that it could hit super-fast people too.


I never said that the circumstances for Iyana's attack to hit weren't very favorable. I'm just saying you're giving the Shukaku more credit.

The two times in naruto that we see the Shukaku are when it is IN A JINCHUURIKI HOST. First Gaara, and then one of the former hosts. So we have not once seen it without a host act on its own. So that is not confirmed. I'm not saying it couldn't use those techniques, I'm saying it wouldn't be as intelligent as when it has a host, making its techniques inherently less effective.

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My point was that, Iyana is the one who underestimated Keiko, lol. All Keiko did was sigh and ignore her, because she didn't feel like talking about what she did in battle. o.O Keiko doesn't even think about Iyana...like, at all, because she doesn't know her. So to someone like Keiko who keeps to herself, and doesn't boast. She thinks Iyana is immature and childish. It kind of seems like Iyana wants to be underestimated, because Keiko is often underestimated, but she keeps to herself and prefers it that. Keiko and Iyana are the same in that sense, but one likes to 'prove' people wrong while the other doesn't mind it. Keiko didn't sigh and turn away from Iyana, because she underestimated her, btw. She turned away, because again... Keiko didn't feel the need to address those comments. When did I say Keiko had underestimated Iyana or have her imply that? o.O It's not 'kinda' true.


That's not unique behavior for Iyana. I did just say that that was what she thought. I didn't say she was correct.

Iyana has the tendency to not consider people stronger than she is until they prove it to her in combat. At current point, Iyana would grudgingly admit that Keiko is powerful, but would not admit that she is skilled because she has only seen her use flower petals and vines to bind the bijuu, neither of which Iyana considers things that would require a lot of skill to achieve.
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I never said that the circumstances for Iyana's attack to hit weren't very favorable. I'm just saying you're giving the Shukaku more credit.The two times in naruto that we see the Shukaku are when it is IN A JINCHUURIKI HOST. First Gaara, and then one of the former hosts. So we have not once seen it without a host act on its own. So that is not confirmed. I'm not saying it couldn't use those techniques, I'm saying it wouldn't be as intelligent as when it has a host, making its techniques inherently less effective.That's not unique behavior for Iyana. I did just say that that was what she thought. I didn't say she was correct.Iyana has the tendency to not consider people stronger than she is until they prove it to her in combat. At current point, Iyana would grudgingly admit that Keiko is powerful, but would not admit that she is skilled because she has only seen her use flower petals and vines to bind the bijuu, neither of which Iyana considers things that would require a lot of skill to achieve.


Ah, okay.

Just fyi, Keiko hasn't used vines, yet. Underground Roots isn't really vines... They are roots. Probably the size of giant trees given how big the one tails is.
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Ah, okay.Just fyi, Keiko hasn't used vines, yet. Underground Roots isn't really vines... They are roots. Probably the size of giant trees given how big the one tails is.


Fair point :)
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Oh my god is that a thing!?


Yes.

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Shukaku is an irredeemable fatass guys.

But that sand manipulation tho.
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Innue said



Needs more Rinnegan
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Needs more Rinnegan


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