Papacy seems to be the only thing that can kill you faster than presidency. Hope he's okay. Franky is the man.

mdk said
Papacy seems to be the only thing that can kill you faster than presidency. Hope he's okay. Franky is the man.

Well, I don't agree with most of his theology, but I admire him in some ways. I hope he's fine too, but I heard he has only one lung.

I don't want him to die now, as I believe that he might not like where he ends up after dying.

In my version of Christianity, you can't get to Heaven by being a nice guy, you need to accept Jesus.

ActRaiserTheReturned said
Well, I don't agree with most of his theology, but I admire him in some ways. I hope he's fine too, but I heard he has only one lung. I don't want him to die now, as I believe that he might not like where he ends up after dying. In my version of Christianity, you can't get to Heaven by being a nice guy, you need to accept Jesus.

Good thing that there's multiple sects of Christianity that entirely disagree with you. Thinking that you know someone's ultimate fate is just hubris and arrogance, plain and simple.

Since I don't accept Jesus, I guess I'm burning in hell. Oh well, I'll probably see you there because you are probably doing several things that another sect that God probably prefers more finds atrocious.

In short, don't be a dick. Saying most of the people on this forum are basically Hellbound because they don't accept Jesus kind of fits the bill, and if there is a God who decides all things, then He allowed Francis to become Pope. Hard to be the head of the Catholic faith by not believing in Jesus.

And no, changing the dogma of an ancient institution to reflect the times doesn't mean he doesn't believe in Jesus. I'm like 99% sure the Pope is more pious than you are.

Dervish said
Good thing that there's multiple sects of Christianity that entirely disagree with you. Thinking that you know someone's ultimate fate is just hubris and arrogance, plain and simple.Since I don't accept Jesus, I guess I'm burning in hell. Oh well, I'll probably see you there because you are probably doing several things that another sect that God probably prefers more finds atrocious. In short, don't be a dick. Saying most of the people on this forum are basically Hellbound because they don't accept Jesus kind of fits the bill, and if there is a God who decides all things, then He allowed Francis to become Pope. Hard to be the head of the Catholic faith by not believing in Jesus.And no, changing the dogma of an ancient institution to reflect the times doesn't mean he doesn't believe in Jesus. I'm like 99% sure the Pope is more pious than you are.

Can we have a "firearms" like thread for religion to stop these derpbates?

In short, don't be a dick. Saying most of the people on this forum are basically Hellbound because they don't accept Jesus kind of fits the bill, and if there is a God who decides all things, then He allowed Francis to become Pope. Hard to be the head of the Catholic faith by not believing in Jesus.

And no, changing the dogma of an ancient institution to reflect the times doesn't mean he doesn't believe in Jesus. I'm like 99% sure the Pope is more pious than you are.

Piety is not the requirement for salvation. Also, saying that I am a dick for having unpopular beliefs is ignorant and arrogant. Also, look throughout history. Although I'm sure there were some Pontiffs that may have been saved, it doesn't mean that there weren't a whole lot of them who weren't adulterers, nepotists, murderers and torturers. I was fine with Benedict, you know. I wasn't convinced he was going to Heaven but hey, he might have been.

Francis, probably not so much. It doesn't mean he won't be in Heaven if he doesn't believe in Jesus right now, or even a fraction of a second when he closes his eyes for the last time. Thing is, that when you close your eyes for the last time, you can't tell anyone else what you believe anymore. Maybe his "Piety" as you put it, won't get in the way of him finally accepting the Lord as the way to Heaven when he breathes his last breath, but you know, when the VATICAN, which agrees with quite a lot of what the Archbishop of Rome has said for hundreds of years, argues with you about Athiests making it to Heaven as long as they try, as Francis put it, you know that something's off-kilter even for the Catholic Church.

Did you start this thread expressly for the purpose of being able to say, "The Pope is going to hell!"?

In either case, Francis isn't going anywhere very soon.

The Nexerus said
Did you start this thread expressly for the purpose of being able to say, "The Pope is going to hell!"?In either case,

You know how crazy those Christians can get.

The Nexerus said
Did you start this thread expressly for the purpose of being able to say, "The Pope is going to hell!"?In either case,

No. In fact, I'm glad the Pope is just fine. I don't want anything to happen to him. I believe his theology is giving people an excuse to combine the Church, both Catholicism and also all other denominations into the rest of the world's religions. I am concerned for his well being, since he seems, at least, to have a sweet spirit of humility and precious compassion.

Neither of which gets him into Heaven. Even a man who can be more ethical than Oskar (spelling?) Schindler, more Saintly than Florence Nightengale, and morally wise as Confucius can't get into Heaven in and of themselves. God is needed, directly.

Which is why I"m elated to hear Francis is doing well. God could use a man like him, with his generosity and moral sincerity, he could do what no other Pontiff in most of Catholic history has done, Christianize the Catholic Church. Totally.

In other words, put back in the Fourth Commandment into the Ten Commandments.
Abolish Marianism. ((Pope John Paul II trusted in Mary to get to Heaven, but he was Saved genuinely prior to his statement in Mary getting him there, so he's Saved if that's true).
Uh. . . and maybe change the Mass, the Eucharist into being a real Communion. Mass, is presented as cannibalism as it is done and believed in right now for the Roman Catholic Church. The whole body and blood of Jesus thing is metaphorical. He is not advocating Zombie-ism for the Human race.

-_-

I'd rather go to hell anyway. Much better music, parties and people there.

Heaven is for nerdbombers and pansies.

Darog the Badger God said
I'd rather go to hell anyway. Much better music, parties and people there.Heaven is for nerdbombers and pansies.

[~Music~]

Heaven:
Hatikvah

Hell
Justin Bieber/Miley Ray Cyrus

People: Heaven
Florence Nightengale

People: Hell

CNN Founder Ted Turner
Ted Turner

ActRaiserTheReturned said
Christianize the Catholic Church.

um

ActRaiserTheReturned said

Uhhh.....Hell is Youtube itself?

ActRaiserTheReturned said

You've completely lost me.

Like most religious nuts do.

Goldmarble said
Uhhh.....Hell is Youtube itself?

No. Youtube is HELL IT'SELF!! IDLE HANDS ARE THE DEVIL'S PLAYGROUND!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!

I edited my post.

ActRaiserTheReturned said
No. Youtube is HELL IT'SELF!! IDLE HANDS ARE THE DEVIL'S PLAYGROUND!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!I edited my post.

So, Hell is this:



I'd be cool with this.

By the way Act, your heaven holds no appeal to me.

Well, the Hati-bullshit should be in hell then right?

if Justin Beiber and MRC are in hell.

Goldmarble said
So, Hell is this:I'd be cool with this.By the way Act, your heaven holds no appeal to me.

You want to be with Ted Turner?

ActRaiserTheReturned said
You want to be with Ted Turner?

Don't know, what's bad about him?

After decades of spewing shockingly ignorant leftist tripe, media mogul Ted Turner might have outdone himself.

Appearing on the network he founded — CNN — for an interview with fellow liberal Piers Morgan, the topic turned to a marked increase in suicide among America’s heroic servicemen and women.

Turner acknowledged that more soldiers “are dying now from suicide over there than are dying in combat,” prompting Morgan to understandably imply that the statistic is “shocking.”

Turner used another adjective to describe the tragic death of those tasked with preserving our freedom against foreign and domestic enemies.

“I think it’s good,” he said, completely dismissing any justifiable reason for military force and urging the country to “start acting enlightened.”

Also, he supports "getting rid of" 90 percent of the entire planet's population. Not necessarily through genocide, but he still supports near extinction of the Human species. He's the real world's Captain Planet, but he isn't a hero, he's a total zero.

Ted Turner also says "Men should be banned from public office."

Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/leftist-idiot-ted-turner-applauds-soldier-suicides/#ZE2Mza0GysPFI4go.99