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Cale Tucker said
To my understanding, Flooby, we do not need to pay for initial cost of items like armor and weapons, but we do need to pay for the first upkeep at start, correct?


Nay, upkeep doesn't happen until the end of the season.
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Werkin on a collab with Ashgan, sorry for any delay.
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Patrols are just raised levies sent to go guard a large swathe of land. Since the soldiers at your forts and outposts are already raised [ they are, aren't they? ] then you don't need to do anything extra, and can just send them on patrol whenever you feel like it.And I have been thinking about the cost, actually. I mean, the largest castle or fortress is only going to be a handful of square miles, and Lundland has 200,000 sq. miles [ thus each inch of the map is around 125 miles ]. That makes the island between 6,000 and 8,000 sq. miles, just going off a rough guesstimate. Since it costs 125,000 bullis just to build a Great Wall around a few square miles, the expense of building said wall around the entire island would dwarf the income of every single lord in Lundland combined.So, if you want an island fortress, you'd probably be better off just looking for a tiny island the size of, say, Malta or something, and just building it there. If you'd like to simply fortify the island, but not with a Giant wall surrounding it, you'd be better off with numerous defensive positions carved out every mile or two around the island, with signal fires allowing for quick communication between each mini outpost.


I would prefer at least a Stone Wall around the entire island. Even if I am only building a few or so (hundred? I don't know) miles ever so often. I know it would take forever, but ..."They've been building walls there for 2,000 years!" (Quote from World War Z). I really want a wall there. And we can do "patches" but they will connect every time I start a new one.
Cough-not saying it'll take me 2,000 years-cough

Tell me the price of a wooden wall and I'll just upgrade it in patches
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Nay, upkeep doesn't happen until the end of the season.


I'm gonna end up calculating stuff at the beginning, that is the best way to manage my stuff, this way I know what I have left at the start
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Does equipment upkeep still need to be paid if it isn't being used in raised levies?

Also, completed Aaldorenfeald's military.
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Does equipment upkeep still need to be paid if it isn't being used in raised levies?Also, completed Aaldorenfeald's military.


Nope. If you're going to train people, that'd be the best way to do it: just have everyone bare, and send them to the yard to train for a couple seasons, then call 'em up if needed.

And thankies, I'll look her up.
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Cale Tucker said
I would prefer at least a Stone Wall around the entire island. Even if I am only building a few or so (hundred? I don't know) miles ever so often. I know it would take forever, but ..."They've been building walls there for 2,000 years!" (Quote from World War Z). I really want a wall there. And we can do "patches" but they will connect every time I start a new one.Cough-not saying it'll take me 2,000 years-coughTell me the price of a wooden wall and I'll just upgrade it in patches


As your faithful courtier, I must strongly advise against this idea.

The biggest, baddest medieval fortresses could cover an area of around 20 acres. Lets just use this as a base for what a Great Manor and Great Wall combination is.

The island, according to the measurements I have calculated, is 766 sq. miles ( my original estimate was based off an incorrect remembrance of high school geometry, hah ), which is 490,240 acres, meaning you would have to build 98 miles of wall to cover the island.

While this is not the greatest feat of engineering ever commenced [ the great wall of china is 5,500 miles long ], the expense for you would be ungodly. Since we're assuming the Great Wall in the manual is going around an area of 20 acres, this means you are essentially purchasing 24,512 Great Walls, meaning the cost to build a Great Wall around the whole island would be 3,064,000,000 bullis.

Even just building a wooden palisade around the island would cost 245,120,000 bullis. I don't even need to tell you how much money that is, but I will: in order to make that amount of money, at your current income level, it would take you almost 1600 years.

So, yes, you would actually be building walls for 2,000 years.

I'm sorry to crush your dreams, Cale, but I'm afraid building a wall around that specific island is impossible for you. Find a nice, small island to build on.
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When will the outcomes of actions be figured?
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Nex, I fucking love your sheet. That's all I got to say.

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So Boerd said
When will the outcomes of actions be figured?


Certain diplomatic actions ( sending messages and whatnot ) are completed as soon as I can possibly get to them. Anything more than that, and you'll have to wait until the orders are processed at the season's end.
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Nex, I fucking love your sheet. That's all I got to say.


Nice to hear. I tried to make the Aaldoren distinct, but in a way that loans itself to Lundland's general cultural theme. Most of the names come from pre-Norman England, with a bit of Celtic and Norse mixed in.
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Nice to hear. I tried to make the Aaldoren distinct, but in a way that loans itself to Lundland's general cultural theme. Most of the names come from pre-Norman England, with a bit of Celtic and Norse mixed in.


I noticed that. Your history and culture are such a unique and real take on a distinct culture being assimilated with the local one, as it was with the many roving barbarians in central and western Europe after the fall of Rome.

That, and your math is spot-on, even after a double-check, so that makes me a happy GM.
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Just saw your post, Cale. Orders are meant to be PM'd to me, so you don't have to share everything you're doing with other people. Also, Town buildings can only be built in towns. They're not meant for fiefs.
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Oof, lots of stuff happened while I was asleep. Let's see here...

First, I had an edit earlier that's pretty easy to overlook. Here's what I asked then:

Ashgan said Are all towns connected via trade routes, no matter their distance? If there's no range limit, that would technically mean that a town gains tariffs from trading with every single other town on the continent? It feels pretty unreal, so I'm asking for clarification here. If there is a range limit, where do we draw the line? I looked at the positioning of all towns, and it turns out that pretty much none of my direct neighbors bothered to get any, so most towns are a huge distance from he, and I want to know how many I can access.

Shame the formatting got killed when you copy-pasted the sheet ;P

Flooby Badoop said It was always four, but someone went and said there were three seasons in the last OOC.

I think what can throw people off is that you also say that a season lasts for 4 months. 4 times 4 equals 16, which is longer than a year typically lasts, though maybe that's just the way this planet that Lundland is on works, given that it's not Earth.

The Nexerus said Does equipment upkeep still need to be paid if it isn't being used in raised levies?Also, completed Aaldorenfeald's military.

Flooby Badoop said Nope.

:O So all that shit I got in my armory doesn't cost me upkeep? For one, that's going to lower my upkeep costs somewhat significantly, and for the other, means I would have probably bought more of it since upkeep was my primary limiter. @____@ Oh well. At least I will save money in the long run, and can now purchase more buildings since I have to worry less about the dollars. Bullis.

Flooby Badoop said the cost to build a Great Wall around the whole island would be 3,064,000,000 bullis.

At first I read that as 3 million and thought that was quite the price. Boy was I wrong, lol. By the time 1600 years for the wooden palisade are over, we'll be flying over it with combat jets ;P

So Boerd said Werkin on a collab with Ashgan, sorry for any delay.

Indeed, I too apologize, though we do have a bit of time yet. The political actions can be summarized quite quickly, but I wanted to put some IC fluff out there to support it. That's why we're here after all, to roleplay.
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All towns automatically share a trade route. Distance is no factor. It's unrealistic, but just roll with it for me.

And yes, 'tis.

I imagine the whole 4 months a season would throw people off, and I do apologize for the confusion. Time be different in Lundland.

No, equipment upkeep doesn't need to be paid if its not in use. As in, you have a guy, and you can raise him, but you can also choose to not give him any equipment. This is good for training. Once you give that guy equipment, you pay upkeep. Nothing fancy 'bout it.

And no rush, take your time. You got all weekend, and then some.
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Ah, well, a few things...

1. Why the fuck are you still awake Flooby? You better not be drunk.
2. The building issue, is that about the Terrandul Bailey's? That was for Terrandul's town. I just felt like saying the Castle. The Watchtowers for the Forts? I need those... The Debauchery Den? Well... damn, fine then.
3. Did you name the Courtier yet?
4. Understood, next Orders will be done in PM and I'll do the roleplay in IC. Although that stuff I didn't try to keep secret. If I wanted something to be a secret, you'd know.
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So are the character ages that we gave in Lund years or earth years?
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Will be working on my post/orders in the next 24 hours.
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So Boerd said
So are the character ages that we gave in Lund years or earth years?


I felt that getting everyone to recognize a new system of age measurement would be a bit much. For our purposes, all the character ages are in Earth years, though they will advance the Lundish way, mostly for my convenience.

But if we were going by Lundland years, a 9 year old would actually be 12 Earth years old.

EDIT: On second thought, I don't think it'd be a stretch to say all the ages are in Lundish years, given the way I've priced and categorized age groups. But then again. . . hm, this is an interesting thought.
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Ah, well, a few things...1. Why the fuck are you still awake Flooby? You better not be drunk.2. The building issue, is that about the Terrandul Bailey's? That was for Terrandul's town. I just felt like saying the Castle. The Watchtowers for the Forts? I need those... The Debauchery Den? Well... damn, fine then.3. Did you name the Courtier yet?4. Understood, next Orders will be done in PM and I'll do the roleplay in IC. Although that stuff I didn't try to keep secret. If I wanted something to be a secret, you'd know.


1. Because insomnia.

2. Nope, just for the Dens.

3. Why, he is the great Flooby Badoop, of course!

4. Saw the PM, thankies.
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