8 said
To be more blunt, you guys are annoying as shit and have stupid opinions. I'm better than you, whatever.

This coming from the kid who thought stealing people's art from the internet, printing it onto shirts and selling it as some sort of "Street Wear" shit, was totally cool and okay.

If you really felt this way, you would have just left and not bothered making this pathetic attention thread. Let alone kept replying to it.

You are not better than us as a whole, or individually. You're just an arrogant teenager who has an inflated ego with nothing to stand on. Good night.

Nothing to see here.

Zed said
{{In case he edits}}

I think, together, we can find an answer to this question.

Herzinth said
I think, together, we can find an answer to this question.

I love how that's my skype nickname for you.

How is it when I first came back into spam everyone went super hostile on me but when 8 outright attacks/insults the entire community everyone seems calm, understanding and wanting to help him? :/

Magic Magnum said
calm, understanding and wanting to help him? :/

Wow today is just not-reading day or something jeez.

Kaga said
Wow today is just not-reading day or something jeez.

At least compared to how I've seen spam react to me.
Plus, I've seen like no snapping. Annoyed sure, but no one here has snapped and started a fight with 8 over it.

/).-

Sherlock Holmes said
/).-

this is gangster for "Step off, bitches."

Correction: No one seemed to snap and start a fight other than Gold.

Magic Magnum said
At least compared to how I've seen spam react to me.Plus, I've seen like no snapping. Annoyed sure, but no one here has snapped and started a fight with 8 over it.

Yes, no one really tried to start a fight (except maybe Gold), but most of us didn't exactly "offer to help" 8. We were annoyed, just not enough to tear him apart cuz the whole "wah Spam's not as good as it used to be" thing is so old and tiresome that it's just not worth it.

But there's a big difference between that and "everyone being understanding and offering a helping hand".

Magic Magnum said
How is it when I first came back into spam everyone went super hostile on me but when 8 outright attacks/insults the entire community everyone seems calm, understanding and wanting to help him? :/

Well two things. You're lightening rod for controversial topics, threads, etc. and you turn things into OT style debates. And 8 is just a snitty teenager.

And Goldy is wonderful at verbal slaps.

Kaga said Yes, no one really tried to start a fight (except maybe Gold), but most of us didn't exactly "offer to help" 8. We were annoyed, just not enough to tear him apart cuz the whole "wah Spam's not as good as it used to be" thing is so old and tiresome that it's just not worth it. But there's a big difference between that and "everyone being understanding and offering a helping hand".

All the theorizing that there was something else at play is what made me say the "Understand and offering to help". Which in this case I think may have just been a cultural difference, normally when I see people dissecting a deeper issue/cause they are by extension offer some hand of support and aid to the person (unless if said dissected person is completely absent from the discussion), but with spam it seems to be just dissection and no extended offering of help as I'm used to seeing suggested elsewhere.

idlehands said Well two things. You're lightening rod for controversial topics, threads, etc. and you turn things into OT style debates. And 8 is just a snitty teenager. And Goldy is wonderful at verbal slaps.

Good points, this makes sense.
I was just curious as to why such a difference in reactions.

Giygas said
What if the test forum developed a community

I want to see this so bad.

Magic Magnum said
How is it when I first came back into spam everyone went super hostile on me but when 8 outright attacks/insults the entire community everyone seems calm, understanding and wanting to help him? :/

Because we don't like you more than we don't like 8

Just to be simple about it.

Magic Magnum said
Correction: No one seemed to snap and start a fight other than Gold.

He has a history of doing this, he's 15, he didn't push it like you did, spam is in a different mood, take your pick.

Oh he's also more of a 'regular' even tho he's always held himself apart.

Azarthes said Because we don't like you more than we don't like 8 Just to be simple about it.

Either other's are sugar-coating/making up reasons, or you're reasoning is just more simple/narrow than the others.

Doivid said He has a history of doing this, he's 15, he didn't push it like you did, spam is in a different mood, take your pick.Oh he's also more of a 'regular' even tho he's always held himself apart.

Some of those I suspected, all of them are good points though.

Magic Magnum said
Either other's are sugar-coating/making up reasons, or you're reasoning is just more simple/narrow than the others.

Yes.

Not to discourage you coming back into spam as a member of the community.

Just trying to be... direct is a good word here.

Azarthes said
Yes. Not to discourage you coming back into spam as a member of the community. Just trying to be... direct is a good word here.

Ditto

Magic Magnum said
Good points, this makes sense.I was just curious as to why such a difference in reactions.

It also seems like every time you come back here, you always bring up how some people seem to be treated better than you and how hard it is for you to get traction here.

My advice? Stop bringing it up and reminding people of things you did (or do, depending who you talk to) that soured their disposition in the first place. People can change, and the biggest mentality I think you need to adopt is that not everything needs to be a serious discussion. People like to post here because it's more laid back and people can post opinions or topics without worrying about it turning into a multi-page debate of sorts. Crack a few jokes, treat it more like a hangout spot than somewhere for hard discussion, and try to avoid stepping on people's toes and I think you'll be a-okay.

As for why nobody's tearing 8 a new asshole, it's partially that this the first time, to my recollection, he's posted anything like this and he's been around long enough that people know him and are willing to let there be some rope instead of turning it into a stomping ground, which usually only happens if somebody keeps poking the bear, so to speak, like a certain individual who shall not be named since we don't speak of the damned who was told repeatedly to stop spamming gifs everywhere and then provoking arguments when people were getting fed up with it until they ate a ban. I assure you, if 8 kept this up, he'd be quickly eroding goodwill from anyone who's willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Realize that every case is different, and with you, you have a reputation for getting involved and bringing up controversial discussions. Show that that's not all of who you are and keep OT behaviour separate from in here and I think you'll find things a bit different.

I mean, I personally have no ill-will towards you. Don't think you're fighting an uphill battle for acceptance. Just resist the temptation to get into heavy shit and keep a good attitude and people will look at that as who you are. We all fuck up from time to time, it's how we pick ourselves up afterwards and own up to our mistakes that matter. I've made my share of blunders and I'm still around.