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Cough, blame the lowering power level of Standard.

It's his first ability as Sorin, Solemn Visitor, so technically it's at Sorcery speed. But like I said, whatever you want to do with it, mang.
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Ignoring it because I don't terribly want random magical buffs and vampiric effects.

Also, wouldn't the effect of Lifelink suck everything back to Sorin?
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Raineh Daze said
Also, wouldn't the effect of Lifelink suck everything back to Sorin?


The whole deal of "Player as Planeswalker" and "Planeswalker permanent as ally Planeswalker" is headache inducing to translate over, so my solution is to have it work out however depending on the situation.
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The whole deal of "Player as Planeswalker" and "Planeswalker permanent as ally Planeswalker" is headache inducing to translate over, so my solution is to have it work out however depending on the situation.


Not really, in this case we have Sorin filling both roles.
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Then it diverges into M:tG gameplay stuff.


Aaaaaaah that would explain why I don't know any of the terminology.

Somehow I'd been running with the assumption that all the characters here are from shows or video games or something of the sort, so all the technical stuff caught me off guard.
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For reference, inside UBW, expect no mana of any discernible colour. No trying to apply M:tG rules to the expression of someone's soul. <.<
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For reference, inside UBW, expect no mana of any discernible colour. No trying to apply M:tG rules to the expression of someone's soul. <.<


...Archer is Blue...
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Ironically, that means that technically a Sarcophagus makes your aura more black the more times you use it, since extended usage induced paranoid schizophrenia, megalomania, and delusions of grandeur, among other things.

Actually, wait, I don't really know M:tG mana or what have you. Forget I said anything.
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Ironically, that means that technically a Sarcophagus makes your aura more black the more times you use it, since extended usage induced paranoid schizophrenia, megalomania, and delusions of grandeur, among other things.


As far as I can tell, Goa'uld are pretty inherently Black/Blue by nature. Parasitism, mind control, advanced technology and whatnot.
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...Archer is Blue...


No, no; he isn't. He might act that way, but that doesn't describe him--or Unlimited Blade Works--any more than Green does.
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Flamelord said
Actually, wait, I don't really know M:tG mana or what have you. Forget I said anything.


This is the basic idea. It gets more complex as you start mixing colors and considering game effects, but it's not a terribly difficult concept. One of the most common misconceptions is that any color or color combination is inherently good or evil. There are White villains and Black heroes (though the opposite arrangement is more common).

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No, no; he isn't. He might act that way, but that doesn't describe him--or Unlimited Blade Works--any more than Green does.


Mechanics related to summoning and artifacts are Blue. He's definitely at least partially Blue. I don't know enough otherwise to assign any other colors.
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The reason for UBW is White, his underlying personality is a mix of Red and Black, and actions in Archer's past throw Green into there. Blue gets in because of how he acts. Focusing on the end result trivialises the issue.

Plus the 'recreate every weapon' part of UBW fills it with a panoply of weaponry embodying every colour. >.>
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The reason for UBW is White, his underlying personality is a mix of Red and Black, and actions in Archer's past throw Green into there. Blue gets in because of how he acts. Focusing on the end result trivialises the issue.Plus the 'recreate every weapon' part of UBW fills it with a panoply of weaponry embodying every colour. >.>


Everyone has a bit of every color, but one's current behavior and philosophy are generally what dictate their colors. See: Planeswalkers that have been different colors.

Blue = Artifacts fo sho though. A spell that summoned craploads of swords would be hella Blue. Reminder that colored artifacts were introduced as the gimmick of the Primary-Blue shard of Alara.
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Everyone has a bit of every color, but one's current behavior and philosophy are generally what dictate their colors. See: Planeswalkers that have been different colors.Blue = Artifacts fo sho though. A spell that summoned craploads of swords would be hella Blue. Reminder that colored artifacts were introduced as the gimmick of the Primary-Blue shard of Alara.


But that's merely trying to ascribe a colour by the effect, rather than a colour by the 'why'. Beyond that, you're assuming that UBW works as 'summon loads of artefacts' or even as an artefact, then saying that it's Blue--when the actual effect could be something more like grindclock, where you just tap it and check counters to see what the hell it does.

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Blue/White sounds reasonable but I don't see much justification for any other color in him. I had him pegged as mono Blue earlier only because of his cynicism gained from when he was undoubtedly Blue/White.
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Blue/White sounds reasonable but I don't see much justification for any other color in him. I had him pegged as mono Blue earlier only because of his cynicism gained from when he was undoubtedly Blue/White.


This is because of considering Emiya Shirou to be a separate entity from Archer.

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Green is closely tied with nature but nothing about Archer's character or abilities is Green. Green is focused on instinct, community and rejection of civilization. White/Green is harmony and interdependence. Blue/Green (enemy colors) is artificial growth and obssessive progress. Green fits into his color pie... basically nowhere.
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And one of the things you've described fits perfectly. <.<
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Merk, sorry for not posting yet again, guys. I'll be sure to get something out tomorrow >_<
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So I have to think that some of you had other characters in mind when choosing who to play. As for me, I was thinking of bringing somebody from Dark Souls in, maybe Lautrec, although Ornstein would be pretty useful here, considering his title of Dragonslayer.
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