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RPCWhite said
Okay, I was just hoping for like a minimum time period but that is fine. And yeah I agree. It is easier to use on that already existed rather than cover all of their history. What kind of tech level btw pre bronze age?


Tech level will be at bronze age, all civilisations will have access to bronze spears etc. Depending on how people want to do this, new technologies could be developed (eg iron working), and new units unlocked.

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Hmm... Carthage was claimed-- seems that we'll be using a few of the superpowers, eh? This is coming together very 'Civilisation' esque xDSo we take a real world nation and culture, choosig a famous/iconic leaderPut it into an alternative history and whipe out their tech/cultureAnd play it ourselves-


Yep, pretty much :D Although of course you can make your civilisation's culture the same as in real life if you want to. In fact, it would probably be best to, though I don't mind if you make up a new religion or something.

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I'd like to do a portion of the German Holy Roman Empire. Not the entire thing of course, that would be way too much. but a few territories would be awesome. possible? Maybe?


Yep, that's fine. I would suggest the area around Vienna, as that was an important city for that empire in our timeline. We'll have to all have a vote on how many territories can be claimed at the start.

Captios said
mfw finally can Regnum Sardiniae et Corsicae


Yep. That was a real thing, so that;s fine.

So Boerd said
Helmuth von Moltke in charge of Germany.


Sure. Although you may have to compete with the Holy Roman Empire for space (lebensraum) ...

Zamiel said
Its late night and now I have to go play civ. Thanks OP.Where on the 'complete-sandbox ---> number crunching/stat hell' scale are you expecting to set up camp?


Well, I'm not sure. I want people to be able to be free as possible, but I also have an idea for trade routes and civilisation traits (which I will explain soon, to see if people like it). I would say about the middle.

Zambza said
We don't remember our timeline, but do we realize we aren't back in Kansas anymore, Dorothy? Will all empty land be filled with NPC-nations or just citystates where their capitols and other big cities would locate. What about barbarian tribes?


City states would start off with just one or two territories, and would expand about one space per IC page from there. Therefore, there will be a large number of empty spaces for people to expand into. As for barbarian tribes, I hadn't really considered that, but I think they will be necessary to keep it from being too easy to expand. How do people want to do this?
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Sounds interesting. Since someone's already picked the Holy Roman Empire, I'll call the Byzantine Empire. Obviously only a few provinces within it, but still; my vote goes to everyone getting to pick four.

Also, you say pre-Renaissance, but also mention Bronze Age? By the high middle ages (Before the Renaissance) people were a long ways past bronze.
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I know, but I meant you could choose any civilisation between the Bronze age and the Renaissance to RP as, but everyone will start with Broze age tech.

Also, would people like me to explain my ideas for trade routes and city-states now?
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Sure.

About nations, do we choose only ones around Mediterranean or is it just thing everyone is doing? For Barbarians, they could be just 'you need x amount more troops to conquer this land', or real NPC-nations with diplomacy, armies, traders and stuff or 'ghost-nations' from real time-line, i.e. Roman-nation on Italy area.
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Well, I am interested in this.
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Excellent, we have lots of peopl :D

Sorry it took a while to post, had a Geography Contolled Assessment.

Anyway, to answer Zambza's questions:

Zambza said
Sure.About nations, do we choose only ones around Mediterranean or is it just thing everyone is doing? For Barbarians, they could be just 'you need x amount more troops to conquer this land', or real NPC-nations with diplomacy, armies, traders and stuff or 'ghost-nations' from real time-line, i.e. Roman-nation on Italy area.


Any European civilisation from ancient to Renaissance times, though everyone will start at the same tech level. This could progress after a while. That idea for barbarians is probably the most simple, so I'll probably go with that. The NPC nations will be city states and small nations from history.

Now, my idea for trade routes:

We could have a resource system where some of the territories on the map have symbols on them, meaning any civilisation that owns that territory will receive that resource every IC page. Trade routes (3 for everyone, possibly 5 in the case of 'commercial' civilisations, see below) could be used to trade this resource with other peoples, including city-states that might sometimes request a certain resources in return for something else. These resources could be used for different units (e.g. wood = battering ram, iron = legionaries etc) and possible fortifications.

The number of units will probably be loosely based on a kind of points system, with different ones available if you have different resources (to keep it fairer). I know this restricts freedom somewhat, so I won't be too strict about this.

About the 'commercial' thing, I think it would be a good idea for RPers to pick 1 or two traits for their nation. These could be:
Seafaring - cheaper naval units
Militaristic - cheaper land units
Commercial - more trade routes
Diplomatic - NPC civs like you more

Any others you can think of anyone? Or do you not like the idea?
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Here I show my interest in this!
*throws on the table the Kingdom of Naples*
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The big problem with this is overall, is that when you try to make it so much like civ you will need to figure out and balance an incredible amount of mechanics which becomes tedious for both you and the players.

My advise? Decide which mechanics provide fun, not restrict it and slash the others.
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Welcome :D
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I'm intrested. Reserve the area around Venice please (I'll get a proper name soon and don't worry, I know Venice itself is unfeasable at this time period :P)
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If I can I would like to lay claim to Scandinavia, a Danish, Swedish, FInnish, Norwegian Union if you will. More of a loose coalition of Vikings, or a successful Kingdom of Sweden depending on the time frame we settle on.

If that's to much space, I'll start in Denmark somewheres!
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Zamiel said
The big problem with this is overall, is that when you try to make it so much like civ you will need to figure out and balance an incredible amount of mechanics which becomes tedious for both you and the players.My advise? Decide which mechanics fun, not it and slash the others.


Excellent idea. I totally agree.

Could people tell me which of the ideas I posted you like and think would bring more to the RP?

Sorry I haven't posted for a day or so again, very busy. But I should have enough time to keep this RP going :D

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I'm intrested. Reserve the area around Venice please (I'll get a proper name soon and don't worry, I know Venice itself is unfeasable at this time period :P)


If you want to be the Reoublic of Venice, that's fine. Just be aware that everyone starts at the same tech level. Welcome aboard :D

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If I can I would like to lay claim to Scandinavia, a Danish, Swedish, FInnish, Norwegian Union if you will. More of a loose coalition of Vikings, or a successful Kingdom of Sweden depending on the time frame we settle on.If that's to much space, I'll start in Denmark somewheres!


Yep, that's fine :D

I think we are ready to start the OOC now, so could people just post to confirm? I will put it up if 3 people think they're ready.
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Well, I've been ready. I do indeed like the ideas you've come up with. It seems a bit difficult to keep up with but I am sure we will be able to do it without much trouble.
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Certainly.
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If you want to be the Reoublic of Venice, that's fine. Just be aware that everyone starts at the same tech level. Welcome aboard :D


I was just talking about Venice with the canals and that stuff :P. I'll probabily make the capital Eraclea under some sort of Celtic name.

EDIT: And I approve of OOC.
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+1 for the OOC
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Awesome :D

I'll put it up later today GMT if I can.
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People be claiming my Venice, i iz sad.

Might join this, but on a unrelated note Illuvatar Gowia has rebooted Colonial Powers and we could use a few more players.
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*Enters the room in a rush carrying a dozen colorful banners and flags, breathless*
W-wait! I'm here as well!
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*Enters the room in a rush carrying a dozen colorful banners and flags, breathless*W-wait! I'm here as well!


Lol XD
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