Zombehs said
Advanced magic and advanced science are basically indistinguishable from one another. It's just the explanation that makes them different.How does that power suit work? Science answer: "Oh it has a fusion reactor." Magic Answer: "Oh it has a powerful magical core."How does that plasma rifle work. "Oh it has a plasma cell that holds inert ammunition before its primed and fired." "Oh it's enchanted with a high-class flame spell that requires an external source of mana to activate. Which is supplied by its "battery" packs."How is Kuro so strong? "Nanomachines. And copious genetic/bio-engineering." "He's an oni."Seriously.

IncredibleBee said
Actually that's a misinterpretation of the quote "Sufficiently advanced science is indistinguishable from magic." It does not mean that magic is science. Magic has to do with the arcane and regularly breaks the established laws of nature, usually the law of conservation of mass/energy. Science is fact. Hard sci-fi is based in fact, and generally entails technology we expect to be available in the next one or two centuries (see Cowboy Bebop). Soft sci-fi is further on, but still has some sort of scientific explanation (see WH40k.)

IncredibleBee said Actually that's a misinterpretation of the quote "Sufficiently advanced science is indistinguishable from magic." It does not mean that magic is science. Magic has to do with the arcane and regularly breaks the established laws of nature, usually the law of conservation of mass/energy. Science is fact. Hard sci-fi is based in fact, and generally entails technology we expect to be available in the next one or two centuries (see Cowboy Bebop). Soft sci-fi is further on, but still has some sort of scientific explanation (see WH40k.)

Raineh Daze said
Remind me what about psychic space elves and emotion-fuelled gods is scientific.

IncredibleBee said Not that part specifically (though it does prove my point that magic isn't the same as science). But a lot of the Imperium's and especially the IG's equipment is laser guns, space ships, and genetic enhancements.You can actually get relatively detailed specifications for how a Bolter works; it's got a similar principal to Gyrojet.

Zombehs said
No, not really. You can achieve the same ends with magic that you could with science for the most part. The way it gets done is just different.Science achieving what magic can on the other hand is more wonky, and can stray into the applied phlebotinum area really quickly though.

Zombehs said
And there's literally no reason a Bolter couldn't work through magical means.

IncredibleBee said No, magic tends to be super metaphysical, and is generally something along the lines of "using the power of your soul to project your will onto the fabric of reality".When you use artifacts to power machinery, that's magitech, which is a whole other kettle of fish.

IncredibleBee said Yeah, but then you're using magic, and not science.

Zombehs said
Not really, given magic is so broad and diverse nowadays. And even then, "using your soul to project your will onto the fabric of reality" doesn't clash with magic powered "tech" in any fashion.

VitaVitaAR said
Um... everyone realizes this isn't combat-focused, right? The combat is entirely optional and a side-thing?... Also those powers are reeeeaaally vague and easily broken.

IncredibleBee said You mean magitech? Because that's actually just magitech.

Zombehs said
Yeah. Magitech. Tech that works by integrating magic into its design.

IncredibleBee said
Oh. Fuck, then. You should have just said magitech in the first place. Yeah, magitech is cool.....Why don't we just have magitech exosuits then?

Raineh Daze said Because it's unwanted.

Raineh Daze said
Because it's unwanted and superfluous.

IncredibleBee said
It's not unwanted if a potential player, y'know, wants it.And it's not superfluous if we've got a bunch of other guys shooting fireballs, and magic katanas out the wazoo.

IncredibleBee said It's not unwanted if a potential player, y'know, wants it.

Zombehs said
But it is if the GM declares it to be. And they have. Might as well just drop it and find a different RP, or CONFORM AND BE ASSIMILATED.