PrincessOfMyBedroom said
Well I plan to stay for a while. And I'm proof that new members are popping up. A website can't be dead when people are still visiting it. And that is my point.

This is true... New members ARE still coming in and the community has shifted greatly from what once was the older members towards the newer generation.

However... The main problem that should be addressed here isn't the member count, which will be rather good for quite a long time, as much as it should be the fact that the guild does have some heavy "competition" that makes it look not as pleasant in comparison, the fat that the Guild's main Admin almost feels nonexistent now and the fact that we haven't received many updates in the guild to help it grow further and be better overall.

Currently Mahz is Momma whatever, probably a platypus, and right now the guild is just an egg... a very simple egg. Mamma gone? Egg dies. Momma takes care of egg... It grows and hopefully it becomes the most bad ass thing in the world to ever see and be a part of.

I want my big hot momma Mahz putting his warm ass all over my egg! Keeping it alive and taking care of it until it finally becomes something!

Title: Is RPGuild dying?

You: "A website can't be dead"

No one ever said it was completely dead just DYING, meaning that the influx of visitors is significantly less and may be dwindling as we speak, unless you count yourself as more than one person. I am all for freedom of speech, it just adds to your credibility when you've been around for idk, more than a day and idk, maybe was around for guild fall such as Drakel.
:3

xAsunaWolfx said
Title: Is RPGuild ? You: "A website can't be dead"No one ever said it was completely dead just DYING, meaning that the influx of visitors is significantly less and may be dwindling as we speak, unless you count yourself as more than one person. I am all for freedom of speech, it just adds to your credibility when you've been around for idk, more than a day and idk, maybe was around for guild fall such as Drakel. :3

I'm going to just stop trying to explain this to you. Because you obviously don't get it. Mr/Mrs. Passive Aggressive Idiot.

Drakel said
This is true... New members ARE still coming in and the community has shifted greatly from what once was the older members towards the newer generation.However... The main problem that should be addressed here isn't the member count, which will be rather good for quite a long time, as much as it should be the fact that the guild does have some heavy "competition" that makes it look not as pleasant in comparison, the fat that the Guild's main Admin almost feels nonexistent now and the fact that we haven't received many updates in the guild to help it grow further and be better overall. Currently Mahz is Momma whatever, probably a platypus, and right now the guild is just an egg... a very simple egg. Mamma gone? Egg dies. Momma takes care of egg... It grows and hopefully it becomes the most bad ass thing in the world to ever see and be a part of. I want my big hot momma Mahz putting his warm ass all over my egg! Keeping it alive and taking care of it until it finally becomes something!

I agree with drakel. And with the admin not being "here" I notice sometimes the posts you want to be posted don't go through and you double or triple post and that is so annoying

*sigh* Why is this in the News section? It's becoming a bloodbath. My only suggestion to everyone:


Good night, and get over it.

PrincessOfMyBedroom said
I'm going to just stop trying to explain this to you. Because you obviously don't get it. Mr/Mrs. Passive Aggressive Idiot.

Actually, she did understand what you're saying but I don't believe you're understanding what she's saying. The guild is dying in a way because less members are active and some have dropped out or left. This decreases post count considerably and when new members join and see that no posts have been make for 2+days, it kinda turns them away from the guild, thinking it died. You can have as much new members join as much as you'd like but if none of them stayed than clearly you still end up with a dying guild. We need members who are willing to stay without ever leaving, like you said you planned to. But when members who are excited and want to RP on the guild for a very long time come and old members and some new ones leave the guild than it means that for every one of you, there are two people leaving.

See the problem here? This isn't good at all, especially since even looking at ads Mahs makes some small change... if there is hardly anyone here to look at them, let alone click them, he won't have enough money to sustain the guild and it will surely fall and die. That's also a big problem that we faced once before New-Guild, as some of the members have been calling it, was created.

"Is RPG dying?" Well, I don't know. I don't really care if it is or not. I'm still enjoying it. Yeah, people are busy, but I'm still having fun roleplaying with what we have right now. It could be better, but I'm patient and I can wait for improvement whether it comes or not. Really though, it's a little stupid to have this debate over whether it's dying or not, since it's not something we can easily change on our own, and since opinions over whether it's dying or not are simply mere speculation. Even if numbers and experiences detail RPG's possible oncoming death or continuing growth, we don't actually know if it is dying or not.

People have lives. People do things in real life. People have free will. We move, we change forums, we work, we go to school. Things are going on in the real world right now, and some people are busy and have left us permanently or temporarily, and some people have left to other places. This is normal. These things happen often in online communities, and it's expected. We won't know if it's dying until it's dead.

Debating this topic so far has proven fruitless to solution, and the original poster is clearly baiting some argument and espousing some philosophy that Iwaku is somehow better than RPG and that RPG is dying. OP doesn't know if it's actually dying or not. People move. So what. Doesn't say anything. A lot of people from well-to-do countries migrate to the US. Their countries don't die. Whatever. Someone's probably gonna scrutinize this for whatever reason, but eh. I don't really care.

This discussion was dead to start. Saw this post about a few hours ago, not surprised some sort of debate was incited. This person came here with the intent of sparking some move to Iwaku. It's like leaving your hometown and then returning and saying "wow does anybody give a fuck about this place anymore lol i mean honestly." Don't feed this person or fuel the fire. Carry on with business as usual and care less about this guy and his thread.'

TL;DR: I don't care, nobody cares. Ignore this thread and let it die because this whole ordeal is leading nowhere and revealing nothing people aren't already aware of or can't figure out on their own.

All aboard the Iwaku train!

Seriously though, the activity on any forum is subject to how active its members are. RPGuild is far from dead, just because people have lives it doesn't mean everything is over

I took about two looks at Iwaku, first of all. I hate the layout. So the guild has a bit of simplicity about it right now, so what. Does it work? Yea, so why are you complaining? "because it's not perfect all the time, and I don't have all the options I want, and, and, and" ... Neither does my local grocery store, do I still shop there? Yea. I agree with divinity, if you find something cool and shiny show people. But don't tell them that their light is dying just because you found a different one. Iwaku, from what I glanced at, has something about trophy points and ratings, and seriously, if that's what it takes for someone's spirit of roleplay to be nurtured, competitive point systems, I find that kind of ridiculous.

Roleplaying is a great hobby of mine, I have the passion for writing but not the attention span to write a novel. Novels are lonely, and self-criticism often bums me out to the point of not writing at all. But coming to the guild, and being a GM myself, as well as a player, is about the only commitment I've had when it comes to writing (Free of will, of course). This place is like a home to me, full of strange and awkward people. So it takes a little longer to start up a new roleplay, so there's not as many new ones floating around anymore.

I myself have been busy, and haven't been very active for a couple of months. Life will do that when you have a death in the family, when you put in time and effort on a new love interest, when you try to get your life back on track. Some leave, but some do not forget, and some come back. I am one of the people that will never leave. I'm sure there are plenty like me. As long as we gather and form the light, more will come. The guild is not "dying" and I feel it will only die if it goes offline, if it goes dark. I honestly hate all other roleplay sites, because I'm so used to the guild.

Mahz has a life too. Personally, I've never even talked to Mahz, but I have seen some things he posts. Everybody has a life, roleplay is our passion, the guild is his. If he doesn't have time for it, if he doesn't have the money for it, even if it has been a year. You never know what it's like in someone else's shoes. The guild functions, it works, and that's good enough. You don't have the right to demand, or expect, anymore than you have. You are not entitled to anything but your opinion, so if you feel the guild is dying then leave. I would much rather have a smaller number of more committed players, than a high number of Houdini's (those who vanish).

Honestly. The guild will never "die" because I will never leave. I can roleplay here, and that's good enough for me.

We have lives.

Posting to show my support for the guild before the hammer comes down on this thread.

As long as this site remains functioning, continues to serve fun and interesting players, and hosts roleplays that interest me, I have no reason to leave.

~~~~~~~Does it really matter what others think?~~~~~~

This isn't a problem. It's a topic. I'm on both RPGuild, Iwaku and other sites. A lot of this post has become RPGuild vs Iwaku, someone attacking the validity of stats (stats that I have for the past seven months, thus I know the trends of the site), and an overall emphasis on activity vs. community. I'll address all of it.



All in all, I think both sides of this argument are wrong. No one wants to accept the faults that exist universally and apparently no one wants to accept that superiority-of-site is an opinion. You can present whatever criteria you use to make the decision, but to someone else it might be irrelevant. This isn't an objective case.

I love this site no matter what! Even if every RP I'm in is dead.

Aeonumbra said I took about two looks at Iwaku, first of all. I hate the layout. So the guild has a bit of simplicity about it right now, so what. Does it work? Yea, so why are you complaining? "because it's not perfect all the time, and I don't have all the options I want, and, and, and" ... Neither does my local grocery store, do I still shop there? Yea. I agree with divinity, if you find something cool and shiny show people. But don't tell them that their light is dying just because you found a different one. Iwaku, from what I glanced at, has something about trophy points and ratings, and seriously, if that's what it takes for someone's spirit of roleplay to be nurtured, competitive point systems, I find that kind of ridiculous.Roleplaying is a great hobby of mine, I have the passion for writing but not the attention span to write a novel. Novels are lonely, and self-criticism often bums me out to the point of not writing at all. But coming to the guild, and being a GM myself, as well as a player, is about the only commitment I've had when it comes to writing (Free of will, of course). This place is like a home to me, full of strange and awkward people. So it takes a little longer to start up a new roleplay, so there's not as many new ones floating around anymore. I myself have been busy, and haven't been very active for a couple of months. Life will do that when you have a death in the family, when you put in time and effort on a new love interest, when you try to get your life back on track. Some leave, but some do not forget, and some come back. I am one of the people that will never leave. I'm sure there are plenty like me. As long as we gather and form the light, more will come. The guild is not "dying" and I feel it will only die if it goes offline, if it goes dark. I honestly hate all other roleplay sites, because I'm so used to the guild.Mahz has a life too. Personally, I've never even talked to Mahz, but I have seen some things he posts. Everybody has a life, roleplay is our passion, the guild is his. If he doesn't have time for it, if he doesn't have the money for it, even if it has been a year. You never know what it's like in someone else's shoes. The guild functions, it works, and that's good enough. You don't have the right to demand, or expect, anymore than you have. You are not entitled to anything but your opinion, so if you feel the guild is dying then leave. I would much rather have a smaller number of more committed players, than a high number of Houdini's (those who vanish). Honestly. The guild will never "die" because I will never leave. I can roleplay here, and that's good enough for me.

Prince said This isn't a problem. It's a topic. I'm on both RPGuild, Iwaku and other sites. A lot of this post has become RPGuild vs Iwaku, someone attacking the validity of stats (stats that I have for the past seven months, thus I know the trends of the site), and an overall emphasis on activity vs. community. I'll address all of it. All in all, I think both sides of this argument are wrong. No one wants to accept the faults that exist universally and apparently no one wants to accept that superiority-of-site is an opinion. You can present whatever criteria you use to make the decision, but to someone else it might be irrelevant. This isn't an objective case.

Hot damn these guys know what's up.

How long are we supposed to wait for an update?

I've seen many just get tired of it and up and leave.

The old rpg had many people who stayed. Why? It was a decent website so you had more people willing to stay. There was a welcoming committee of generally the same people in introductions.

We've been kept in the dark so freakin long. Yeah, we were never told about the money problems until it became a reality. And if people are as loyal as you say, I'm sure they would have been willing to donate and we wouldn't have this problem.

If he has a life then maybe he could share the freakin responsibility? I even know someone that would be willing to help with design of the site, who currently has a job designing websites for colleges.

IF he actually was open about events of the website, we wouldn't have this issue.

Maybe you can argue about the members thing, but there's still that other problem.

Just look at this thread. No mods have shown up, let alone Mahz.

I'm surprised the hammer has not come down.

And as someone else pointed out-

Less people=Less ad money=Shutdown of site anyway since there's no revenue coming in. Or a second guildfall.

I don't think Mahz means it and the mods are all busy with more important issues than this, if you want something addressed, post it in the 'need help' section or elsewhere. Yeah, perhaps Mahz should give some of the responsibility to someone else, maybe he's made a mistake in deciding to tackle everything on his own and not share what's going on, but he's only human. We all make mistakes, but I'm willing to trust the admin for what he's already done.

The rp guild has unique people and it caters to the basics. I stays cause of my friends here, cause there's so many more interesting people to meet here who just have the same basic drive for rping that I do. No one gets judged here, isn't that all that matters?

I'm in a very interesting roleplay which has lasted for over nine months. I have found others before and will find others again. There are a lot of talented writers on this site, and that's enough to get me to stay. Hell, it's basically the only place I've been to with halfway reasonable people. I'm not leaving.

Moved my post to the third page since I made some edits and wanted it to be seen.