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Speaking of selecting schools of magic... I'd like to take a moment to point out that one of Serenity's schools isnt a proper school, but somewhere in between two of them. Closer to Energy than Otherness, though.

I figured, since it wasn't learned normally, that particular magic of hers could be... strange.
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I see; I don't know if that'll be allowed though - no offense.
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Well, that would be pretty lame, in my opinion.
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Yeah, I can understand. Well, you can always mix Energy and Otherness...

Also, looked at the new links on the OP?
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I'll do that soon. I'm at work right now.
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@Aqu I mentioned it to you when we were talking about the reset or rewind, whatever you call it, on skype.

I forgot to mention this before but as it concerns magitech and the mana batteries. For one I was thinking that actually building it would require magic knowledge students would not have yet not to mention the tech part which can be acquired.

As for spirits, as we saw or I hope at least, the table of spirits Bee posted, one can assume there are more and less powerful spirits. Thing is a spirit can use the mage if they are not trained, by this I mean the more powerful spirit can and will not form a contract with someone weaker, not to mention they might just take the mage over.

The mana batteries... I thought they would or rather could only be used to power magitech devices not mages, but even if, using an external source of mana that is not attuned to a mage can or rather should create anomalies. This should prevent limitless mana pools, in theory at least. One of the symptoms could be drunkenness, I mean that they would get drunk if used mana batteries to power spells, maybe not right away, but the more mana is taken from a battery the more intoxicated the mage becomes.

@Cirus Well a user of a few particular schools can mix them or their effects, but not take it as a different school altogether. Like Bee said, just have the schools that you mix and it shouldn't be a problem.

These are just my ideas so feel free to discuss them. Before I forget, it might be true that magic school threads die out quickly, but the school portion can be just a prelude to let the characters socialize, the combat after or even while at the school can be done in class or as additional quests or simulations. Again just an idea.
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It's not really Otherness, though. She can't communicate with Spirits or anything, only Vortex, and there's a reason for that.

I guess I could just drop Otherness, really. Vortex is the only real instance of it, anyway.
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Okay, that works.

Edit: I meant to say 'No Otherness works'. As for Vortex, he breaks the Rules regarding Otherness and Spirits; sorry.
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Edited the above post.

Also, I thought we sorted the whole thing with your Mech out?
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Sorted out how?

And Vortex isn't really a spirit, either. Calling it Otherness was a little misleading, sorry. It was just the thing that fit best.
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Sorry for the delay, and, ah, what I meant was that, well, earlier, I hinted to you that your magitech was a little bit too powerful, and broke the rules I myself set.

Also, if Vortex wasn't a Spirit, who is he?

One more thing: Anything larger and more powerful than personal equipment has to be listed in the Character Sheet; that includes Mecha. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Think of her as more as an AI? Vortex is comprised of energy, and requires a crystal matrix or Serenity to exist. To a limited extent, Vortex can power machinery hooked up to a crystal matrix, but auxillary power supplies are required for intense operation, like Serenity's mecha. Moreover, Vortex cannot use magitech to make magitech, including circuitry. That must all be made by Serenity. The magitech components can be manipulated and broken down, but not reconstructed by Vortex without special machinery. Enough material was brough with for reconstruction with limited material fabrication.
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How did Serenity bring the materials with her?
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They were occupying the space that was then used for passenger space.
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I see; so, Serenity had a mech, which was loaded with materials on it, and has a limited ability to reshape itself. I'll go wait and see for what the other players have to say, then.
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I'm basically waiting for you guys to hash it all out, see what it looks like from there.
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We're working on it, I would say we have a bit of a rebalance in mind, please give us a couple more days and we should have everything up and running.

@Cirus Could you please explain in more detail what you mean by Vortex being an AI ? You mention that it also serves as a power source and can't really exist either outside of a crystal matrix or without Serenity. Problem is a sentient mass of energy is basicly a spirit not an AI. Not to mention something like that, if powering machinery, would technically use it's own life force to power thus spending it, so if you could also talk a bit about how that works without actually killing Vortex I'd be grateful, since the time it could power anything would be relatively short at least according to my sources. I just need a bit more detail on the inside work of it or to me it'll continue looking like a spirit since it requires a focus (the crystal matrix) or Serenity (the contractor, person it's bound to).
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Okaaay, so they're more similar than I realize. I suppose the big different would be that Vortex is artificial, created by Serenity using Energy and Law at a point of high stress. Serenity can recharge Vortex, as long as she's near, but doesn't understand how she works or really what she is.
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@Cirus, you need Mind in order to create a functioning artificial mind.

Edit: Without an organic, undead, or ephemeral (Spirit) body.
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Well, nixing Otherness leaves room for that.

Or we could say that Vortex can't be separated from Serenity by more than a certain distance, in order to be sustained.

Hmmm... a thought. It may be that Vortex can act as a conduit for Serenity, which is how she's able to power things, to a limited extent. It's just drawing from Serenity's magic for power, which can then be used to activate power generators or whatever for high power applications
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