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Here's what I've got. It's effectively complete all it likely needs is some tweaking. I'm not too sure about the stats and Noble Phantasms, mainly if they're too powerful or not powerful enough. So if anyone has some insight feel free to chime in. Also IIRC pluses equate to temporary modifiers correct?

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Should I make a female character for the caster, I like for their to be a little balance.
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I hope you don't mind me joining, this seems really fleshed out and well done. ^^
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@Lion: Look at all those pluses. And, ah, that statline might be a wee bit crazy even for a Saber class.

Twistedgrin said
Should I make a female character for the caster, I like for their to be a little balance.


Well, I'm putting together a Morgan le Fay, so you could make a dude if you want.
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I'm here to join too! IF there's still some room, of course! (I'll be joining as a master, also, if possible! :D)
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Grey said
@Lion: Look at all those pluses. And, ah, that statline might be a wee bit crazy even for a Saber class. Well, I'm putting together a Morgan le Fay, so you could make a dude if you want.


That's the thing, to my understanding pluses are temporary modifiers and not the actual stats, in which case those would simply be the modifiers provided by his Noble Phantasms. But I don't remember for sure.
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Ah, my bad then. I was looking at your NP effects as Rank Up boosts instead of temporary boosts.
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I'm going to use a Lancer instead.

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@King Richard: Alrighty, I like the way you've built the idea around him. In fact, I think this is a pretty cool way to go about doing things, however... currently, I feel that he's way powerful stat-wise.

His Noble Phantasms and skills seem perfect, but... honestly, under those circumstances he could take down literally anyone in or out of his Noble Phantasm usage, which isn't a good thing as a Saber. So, for this reason I'm going to have to impose a few stat decreases.

I'd like you to reduce his Strength to D and Agility down to C Rank. I would also like his Endurance down to B Rank. I'm suggesting these stats, because from Saber's Noble Phantasms, its clear that he should be played more from a defensive perspective, rather than a head on charge straight into things approach. Oh, and feel free to remove the plus signs, they aren't really necessary~ We can remember that stuff!

Would this compromise be good with you? It would be easier this way, rather than you having to rework your Noble Phantasms and your abilities.

@Kitsune: Feel free to join! We have near limitless spot openings!

@Hebigami Shiho: As mentioned, we have near limitless spot openings long as we have enough interest! No limits on Servants or Masters either for now~
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@Lionheart, dang dude that stat line. I'd definitely tone it down a few notches. It's worth comparing a servant to where others lay in terms of stats when you're making them. For example, Berserker Herakles, a being who is said to have lifted the sky, 'only' has A+ strength with what is a 'perfect' master and the Mad Enchantment. Is there really enough to warrant him having what could be seen as 2 potential boosts which make him stronger, more durable (not counting God Hand) and just as fast as the son of Zeus?

Compared to other Saber classes, specifically Arturia, his stats also do not line up. At a base level, not counting haxcalibur, he is more powerful than Arturia, who for obvious reasons is probably the max of what you can expect from an English king other than maybe William the Conqueror. If I were to restat him it'd be something like:
Str: B
End: B
Agility: C
Mana: C

When I read and think of Richard the Lionheart, it's not exactly the physical powerhouse you've depicted him as, but rather an adventurous (and poor) king who was a notable Crusader and a decent warrior. The integration and recognition of Gaillard is good, but more can be done with it conceptually than just making it a zone where he fights better. Re purpose it for the defensive, possibly, and consider implementing something like...

Durnstein & Trifels ~ Under the Authority of Him
Rank: D etc etc

Richard the Lionheart was, for a time, imprisoned in Austria, resulting in the equivalent of a PR fiasco for the Byzantine Empire. When eventually brought to the Pope and after a remark regarding deference to him, Richard responded:

"I am born of a rank which recognises no superior but God"

Richard can be held by none who are not the Lord himself. When activating Durnstein, the Lionheart becomes unstoppable by any means that are not extremely powerful restraining NPs, breaking free of any restraints on his movement and disregarding any penalties/debuffs for its durations, allowing him free movement.


Combine that with a defensive Noble Phantasm you could make out of Gaillard and instead of this stat-jockey, you get a progressive tank; a hero who keeps on going and can take hits but is not an absolute destroyer like Berserker while maintaining the idea that stats=representative of legend and class combined. In exchange for a relatively weak stat side for a Saber, you can make one of his Noble Phantasm's exceptionally powerful - a trump card which could toss things on its head. Considering Richard didn't exactly have that much of an outstanding legend in comparison to the likes of Arturia, Berserker, Seigfried, Mordred etc it'd be worth making him more Noble Phantasm based rather than stat/skill. Unfortunately, while Saber is technically the physically strongest class, it does not necessarily mean it is the strongest within an individual war and still depends upon who was summoned.
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I would ask to switch the Strength and Agility making strength at C and Agility to D. Though truthfully with as low as the rest of his stats are both being C would be nice. I just took the Saber base and altered a little based on what I thought his characteristics would allow. Since he was a peerless warrior I figured his martial stats would naturally be higher with him suffering the most in his other two. Agility would be the lowest of the three since he is meant to fight more defensively, blocking rather then dodging.

So Ideally if they had to be reduced I'd prefer Strength to at least be B, Endurance stays at A, Agility to C, and the other two to be unchanged. Unfortunately I've yet to achieve a good balance when making these things, either I'm far too conservative or too powerful.
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@Lionheart: Alright, thinking it over, I think I'ma go with Art's ideas of stat changes, HOWEVER, I will say that his endurance be reduced to C due to the fact that he has Battle Continuation of A Rank, which is a mighty powerful skill despite what his Endurance may be. Saber is a Defender, from what I see, and by the looks of his shield, it serves more as a Bounded Field type Noble Phantasm in that it serves as a Conceptual weapon when not in use, but once activated, like you said, he can claim domain over an area and "protect" it as long as it is a structure capable of being protected.

So... I think with:

Str: B
End: C
Agility: C
Mana: C
Luck: D

You'd be fine, I believe. Though what Art mentioned above did catch my interest, and I would perhaps read a few things that he may have mentioned if you'd want.
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I just finished my Caster, so can someone critique it. I think I made him a little OP. Second master/servant combo will be made soon after my first team is revised/approved.
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So, you're starting this up again.
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Just gonna leave this here for you guys to tell me what ya think. :D Also, might write up a Servant too, but later, or tomorrow.
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Name: The Bogeyman
Title: The Thousand-faced Nightmare
Class: Beast
Gender: N/A
Alignment: Chaotic Evil

Weapon: Fear.
Parameters:
  • STR - C

  • END - D

  • AGI - B

  • MAN - B

  • LCK - D
Class Skills:
Transformation - An ability similar to Shapeshifting, which allows the Beast to transition between their True Form and their Human Form. The qualities of one's True Form varies between Beasts, as do the strength of the boosts received upon transforming fully.
  • EX - While partial transformation is possible at any time, this skill has a special effect during the depth of the night, which powers it up to near-Noble Phantasm levels. Beast's True Form affects the very world around it, transforming Night into Nightmare and granting capabilities in a completely different league from its base form.
Monstrous Strength - An ability possessed by monsters and beasts, temporary boost of the Strength parameter by one rank for a time limit determined by the ranking of this skill.
  • C

Personal Skills:
Presence Concealment - The capacity to hide one's presence as a Servant.
  • A+ - It is possible to disappear completely and become almost impossible to be detected. However, efficiency will decrease once preparations to attack are taken.
Familiar (Shadows) - Allows the use of living shadows as familiars.
  • A - Long-distance control through thoughts alone is possible, and the utilities common among familiars are all present. Familiars may return to the user at any time, even when deep in enemy territory, making them suitable for reconnaissance. Their forms vary, although this makes no difference to their abilities.
Fear - The ability to instill fear in others with the owner's mere presence.
  • A+ - Those without resistance to fear will have all of their parameters reduced by half a rank with Beast's mere presence. Effect is doubled in Beast's True Form and when applied to non-Servants.
Protection of Shadows - Typical of monsters that lurk in the dark, this skill provides certain defensive bonuses so long as the owner is not subjected to direct light.
  • B - When shrouded in darkness, attacks against Beast have their offensive power reduced by half, making up for its poor physical durability. In Beast's True Form, this also provides an increase in attack power equal to the defensive bonus.

-Noble Phantasm-
Bogeyman - The Cursed Name of the Thousand-faced Nightmare
A-Ranked, ???-Type.
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Class: Beserker

Master: WiP

True Name: The Morrígan

Gender: Female

Height/ Weight: 6'2 180lbs(without armor)

Alignment: Chaotic Neutral





Personality: Irritated, angry, and defiled.

Stats: (From E to A+, E being the worst, A+ being the highest)

Strength: A+

Endurance: B

Agility: B

Magical Energy: D

Luck:C

Class Abilities:
Battle Continuation B
Divinity C
Mad enchantment B

Personal Skills:
Upon wings of black: Crows follow this Champion acting as eyes and ears, along with attacking and defending.

Noble Phantasms: W.I.P .The wail of the Banshee. (If anythings glaring go ahead and address me, I am trying to figure out if mad enchantment applies before or after stat calculation. Ill continue to work on this.)
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I decided to just go with making two beast Servants, both of which will be placed on this post. Also, A question, are we supposed to make a Master for our servants, or not. Because I see a lot of servants, but about two masters.
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Alright, so Gnar's not feeling well after having an appointment today, and he asked me to give out judgements. If I don't mention you in here, your character is either fine or is a work in progress, which I can't comment on yet.

@Raijin:

Two things. First is your question.

((Question,If he uses Seal of Solomon(Support) on a person, and then sends them out to do his bidding, can it still be traced back to him?Also, the bonuses it adds depends on the being invoked, and that list will be put together at a later date. I also don't know what rank to give these phantasms, so advice would be good on that front.))

It can be traced back to him. Rin did it to Caster.

Second thing is Arnacius. Half-vampires don't exist in the Nasuverse. They don't work that way. Look at this.

___

Okay, next victim.

@Twistedgrin:

Gnar The Missing Link said
unlike the previous RP where there was Gods allowed, here they aren't since I believe they can be abused.


The Morrigan's a god. No gods allowed.
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Alright, no worries.
Back too the history books.
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