WilsonTurner said
Well, you see, it takes about 3 seconds to get anywhere in galaxy, because #NoOneWantsRealI try suggesting actual limits on travel and such, and everyone hated it because then they can't go anywhere at anytime.

This RP was never realistic (or consistent) from the beginning. Arbitrary limitations on FTL isn't going to make the RP any less inconsistent.

The reason why I opposed your suggestion on FTL is because it horrendously gimped my faction's approach to space warfare. I'm not interested in reverting to romanticized 18th century maritime tactics in space. I can deprive pleasure from viewing this sort of material on a HDTV screen (nBSG fan reporting in) and on the pages of a Warhammer 40k novel (boarding actions in black library books can get relatively intense depending on what author you've treated yourself to), but I absolutely loath writing it.

Wilson's Rant

If some of you focused on something other than unnecessary dick-waving (Duck and Wilson exclusively), creating nations with the sole purpose of antagonizing other players (Wilson and his Draconians), initiating deus ex machina when things are getting heated (Duck and Wilson), and spawning asteroids out of nowhere to cause unparalleled destruction on a planetary scale due to obscured reasons (Darkwolf and his asteroid), this roleplay would be going smoother than it is now.

We won't get into the absurd capabilities of the Sentience Disruptor (a magical weapon powered by pure bullshitium; Wilson has also confused sentience with sapience judging by his past OOC description of the weapon's effects on targeted specimens), magic (Duck's go-to Phlebotinum) and Darkwolf's mega parasites that can burrow through body armor and somehow infect computer mainframes.

Suffice to say Wilson, you're part of the problem. But it's mostly you and Duck. Everyone else isn't retarded. It's just you. I'd honestly wish Keyguy would boot you and your two powerplaying comrades out of the RP. You're ruining my fun.

What fun? Seriously, what are you even doing in the roleplay? Everyone else interacts, and you're just... barely even in the background. You're more like Cale Tucker, just pitching in your part in the OOC, and that's about it. A tiny bit of IC, but not really. Sure, your people absolutely RELY on quick FTL, despite being massive giant ships, which means that developing the technology to get anywhere and out again would be of the highest priority- and so you'd be much more likely to have it. Everyone else doesn't work on such principles- most of us meet head-on.

Jesus, I'm fucking done. "Cramping my style," my ass. You don't do shit to anyone, you don't even talk to them. The latest thing is you hovering near the edge of a star system. Congratulations! You have officially come close to someone else. Now let's see if you actually do something!

Well, they'll see, I won't. I'm fucking tired of this.

Hey Abroe, you can have the Valkians if you want them. You'll be best for them than anyone else. If you don't want them, then the Valkians shall mysteriously leave, and hunker down in an NPC nation that somebody will, no doubt, use overpowered and powergaming methods to take over, despite asteroid fortresses being about as common as someone else's starships.

Valkians go to Abroe, or turn into NPC state.

@WilsonTurner leaves good roleplay with a few cool roleplayers and a few shitty ones.

Draconians blow up mining peoples, and leave again. KeyGuy can do whatever with them- they'll probably just get blown up again by OP and PG again, so what does it matter?

WilsonTurner said
What fun? Seriously, what are you even doing in the roleplay? Everyone else interacts, and you're just... barely even in the background. You're more like Cale Tucker, just pitching in your part in the OOC, and that's about it. A tiny bit of IC, but not really. Sure, your people absolutely RELY on quick FTL, despite being massive giant ships, which means that developing the technology to get anywhere and out again would be of the highest priority- and so you'd be much more likely to have it. Everyone else doesn't work on such principles- most of us meet head-on.Jesus, I'm fucking done. "Cramping my style," my ass. You don't do shit to anyone, you don't even talk to them. The latest thing is you hovering near the edge of a star system. Congratulations! You have officially come close to someone else. Now let's see if you actually do something!Well, they'll see, I won't. I'm fucking tired of this.Hey Abroe, you can have the Valkians if you want them. You'll be best for them than anyone else. If you don't want them, then the Valkians shall mysteriously leave, and hunker down in an NPC nation that somebody will, no doubt, use overpowered and powergaming methods to take over, despite asteroid fortresses being about as common as someone else's starships.

Because the tone and atmosphere of the RP has been badly dampened by you and Duck's ridiculous OOC/IC feud. Seriously, I'm tired of reading your excessive bitching. You make the roleplay toxic, which discourages fresh players from expressing valid interest in this RP and existing participants from persistently posting and keeping their enthusiasm for the RP strong.

And priding yourself on being able to spam-post campy spaceship battles is downright egoistic and pathetic. Try some character development for a change, or give us a glimpse into how the Valkians conduct themselves on a cultural level. I know enough about how strong their hyper-advanced starship armor is, thanks.

ASTA said
Why is New Condia even important?

To me publicity reasons. Got to maintain moral.

To anyone else? Some farms they can use and fuel they cant use.

WilsonTurner said
In regards to how the Battle of New Condia is going:

This is getting fucking ridiculous. Duck, you keep pulling in more and more and more people, people who should think more of keeping their own fleets in tip-top shape rather than risk it all for someone they barely know, or not even be worth the losses. And Darkwolf is just alone. Honestly, I am about to bring in some kind of supership to just explode and blow the shit out of everything, so that the massive fucking fleets are GONE.

Jesus, this IS about to make me leave. It's like no one's learned nothing from the dozen reboots that have been made and shut down again.

Before, it was more or less important to take New Condia- it's the first step in the war. But instead of a goddamn fucking CONQUEST, a real MILITARY FUCKING CAMPAIGN
We jsut have these fucking STUPID-ASS MASSIVE FLEET BATTLES, WHERE EVERYTHING IS ABOUT WHO HAS MORE FUCKING SHIPS

If THIS is how ALL OF YOU plan to be doing this roleplay in terms of warfare, then I am fucking done. The Draconians were brought back originally to piss the shit out of Duck, but I pulled them back because Duck is somehow gaining thousands of ships to defend himself from himself and others, and he won't be able to pay back ANY of the nations completely because so much FUCKING SHIT has already been blown the fuck up.

Where the shit are those robot people? Maybe they can just blow the fuck out of the planet and be done with it.

We need some SERIOUS rules regarding communication, FTL, and movement speed. Insta-battles and insta-reinforcements and insta-joinfights is fucking retarded, but every time I say something you all just go fucking whiny because that means you can't do whatever the fuck you want. Valkians- they only ever warp from the edge of a starsystem to the edge of a starsystem. Draconians- they only ever teleport in groups, and I'm going to give them some lengthy charges for individual FTL.

It's getting really fucking ridiculous. If none of you see a problem, then you all are fucking retarded too. And if you think I am so shittin' wrong to say all this crap about how retarded this 'war' is going on, then I'll go ahead and leave the goddamn roleplay, and start one with some REAL rules in place. Where people post about getting into position, moving across a star system, and not just instantly crossing a light-minute in half a minute and blowing the shit out of a rapidly-increasing force with instant-reinforcements, while receiving your own instant-reinforcements.

I meant for my last post to be a model, not to be fucking ignored and shunned like I never posted it.

(Rant left in in case he tries to get rid of evidence)

First of all, this post was completely uncalled for and broke two rules of this RP. If you hadn't quit, then this would have gotten you banned. You insulted EVERY SINGLE PERSON in this RP at the same time, using a storm of curses because, you know, all of us here don't deserve any respect. Nobody here will join your RP, not because it's bad, but because you just told every single one of us that we're terrible roleplayers.

I'll let people call each other stupid jackasses all they want, even in the OOC if they don't get too flamey, but you insult EVERY SINGLE MEMBER, and you'll get banned instantly. I will NOT stand by and say nothing while somebody calls everyone else (who is just trying to have fun) that they're all terrible roleplayers because A FEW OF THEM aren't doing exactly what that one person wants.

Next time you decide to quit, try not to insult EVERY SINGLE PLAYER, because that's not something I will ever tolerate. These people, they all decided that I had a good idea, an idea that was worth spending time to have fun with. To me, that's one of the best compliments someone can give. I like to see people having fun as a result of something I have created, and I will not just stand by and let you insult every last one of them over the fact that I KEPT TO THE OPs STATEMENT. This roleplay is freeform, that means people make their own rules for how their own things work. Debates over how OP things are keep the power in check, but not without shooting down someone else's concept of how their species works. This isn't an RTS, this isn't a 4x game. This is a roleplay, which means we write a story, and have fun.

I still can't get over how you just raged at everyone in the roleplay, in the OOC, breaking two major rules. That is beyond stupid, that's just being ignorant. You clearly didn't know of the rules, and that's unacceptable. Just because this is freeform doesn't mean you don't need to read the rules.

So READ THE DAMN RULES

As of now, I'm banning you, WilsonTurner, from this roleplay and all of it's descendants. The only way to overrule this ban is to have the majority of accepted members vote for you to be unbanned. I want all of you people to remember this in case I forget, so that I don't let him in without public approval anytime in the future.

As for the problem of the Draconians and Valkians, the Draconians will be retreating to conquer more, perhaps to return. The Valkians will be given to Abroe just as Wilson wanted, as it was the call I would have made as well. If Abroe doesn't want them, then they get eaten by the hivemind unless anyone else manages to convince me that they'd do good with them.

Finally, I want to say this: NOBODY HERE DESERVED THAT. EVERYONE HERE JUST WANTED TO HAVE FUN, TO WRITE, WHATEVER. I REFUSE TO LET EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM BE INSULTED AT THE SAME TIME, EVER.

App review coming soon, if you still want to join after all this shit went down.

Keyguyperson said
(Rant left in in case he tries to get rid of evidence)First of all, this post was completely uncalled for and broke two rules of this RP. If you hadn't quit, then this would have gotten you banned. You insulted EVERY SINGLE PERSON in this RP at the same time, using a storm of curses because, you know, all of us here don't deserve any respect. Nobody here will join your RP, not because it's bad, but because you just told every single one of us that we're terrible roleplayers.I'll let people call each other stupid jackasses all they want, even in the OOC if they don't get too flamey, but you insult EVERY SINGLE MEMBER, and you'll get banned instantly. I will NOT stand by and say nothing while somebody calls everyone else (who is just trying to have fun) that they're all terrible roleplayers because A FEW OF THEM aren't doing exactly what that one person wants. Next time you decide to quit, try not to insult EVERY SINGLE PLAYER, because that's not something I will ever tolerate. These people, they all decided that I had a good idea, an idea that was worth spending time to have fun with. To me, that's one of the best compliments someone can give. I like to see people having fun as a result of something I have created, and I will not just stand by and let you insult every last one of them over the fact that I KEPT TO THE OPs STATEMENT. This roleplay is freeform, that means people make their own rules for how their own things work. Debates over how OP things are keep the power in check, but not without shooting down someone else's concept of how their species works. This isn't an RTS, this isn't a 4x game. This is a roleplay, which means we write a story, and have fun. I still can't get over how you just raged at everyone in the roleplay, in the OOC, breaking two major rules. That is beyond stupid, that's just being ignorant. You clearly didn't know of the rules, and that's unacceptable. Just because this is freeform doesn't mean you don't need to read the rules.So As of now, I'm banning you, WilsonTurner, from this roleplay and all of it's descendants. The only way to overrule this ban is to have the majority of accepted members vote for you to be unbanned. I want all of you people to remember this in case I forget, so that I don't let him in without public approval anytime in the future.As for the problem of the Draconians and Valkians, the Draconians will be retreating to conquer more, perhaps to return. The Valkians will be given to Abroe just as Wilson wanted, as it was the call I would have made as well. If Abroe doesn't want them, then they get eaten by the hivemind unless anyone else manages to convince me that they'd do good with them.Finally, I want to say this: NOBODY HERE DESERVED THAT. EVERYONE HERE JUST WANTED TO HAVE FUN, TO WRITE, WHATEVER. I REFUSE TO LET EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM BE INSULTED AT THE SAME TIME, EVER.App review coming soon, if you still want to join after all this shit went down.

You're funny good sir, but this time I do not have a rant for you.

Wilson never called you a jack ass, and he never called you retarded; never breaking any rules.

He specifically said...
The situation is ridiculous.
He believes no one has learned anything from the past which is prepping him to leave.
He called massive fleet battles stupid-ass.
He threatened to leave if all of this was how the roleplay was going to go.
He said if none of you see a problem, then you may as well be retarded.

Now let's discuss the last one, shall we? By this statement, and by what you have all shown, you're not retarded. You're not stupid, blind, idiotic, imbecilic, or 'special.' Of any kind.
However, if you admit to having (a) problem(s) that you can not see, then you qualify for being retarded.

But, you do not see a problem with all the literal definition of bullshit happening in the roleplay, do you? Then you are not retarded. Wilson only said you were if you knowingly have a problem or more and can not or will not fix them. So do not jump the gun mister trigger happy. No one has gotten insulted yet. And if you choose to ignore me, so be it. Mods will not ignore my post. Whether or not that works out well for me doesn't matter.

While I may have been "troll-ish" I have not outright insulted anyone or be an asshole.

If you call my picking at Duck for minor things in small ways asshole-ish, fine, I accept that. But even the village idiot has intelligent things to say once in awhile.


Oh and one more thing, if you think I'm groping up on Wilson, I'm not. No silly comeback or serious attitude, just, I'm not. I speak up for what is right and against what is wrong. Honestly you can not just open up a random roleplay where magic and scifi exists without making a basis and many will take advantage of the small amount of rules and restrictions and especially find a way to go around new rules implemented during the roleplay.

If Wilson gets banned wrongfully, boo hoo, oh well. We weren't ultimate besties behind the thread, we weren't hanging out 24/7 at the men's club rocking and partying. We fist bumped once or twice and agreed a lot because while we are imaginative, we are realistic, and we want a fair roleplaying environment. While we are the few that have protested, there are many others that have wanted to protest but don't want to be alienated. As we have become the alienated part of the group where we think differently. Honestly I may admit because of my constant aggressive posting I may have pressured Keyguy and once I started to troll, lightly or not, I put Wilson into that spot.

But what do you expect when you corner someone? When someone is alone and can not defend themselves and multiple people corner them how do you expect them to react? This was instigated on everyone's part. Pure and simple.

There is so many other reasons Wilson needs to be banned.

For one he just openly admitted he created a faction purely to piss off a sole player, which is wrong and creates more OOC conflict and proves that he is not capable of forgetting the past. I am more then willing to drop the past, but he keeps on bring it up. He has constantly beat up on a sole player as well, and has tried to continue arguments after they were long since settled. It's like he relies off conflict to live or something.

I will admit, I am far from perfect. I have several areas where I need drastic improvement, but Wilson acts likes he so much better then everyone else. His idea of "fair" is where he has a faction capable of butt-raping every single person in the RP. His idea of "restrictions" are ones that everyone else has to abide by but he has some form of bullshit technology that bypasses them. His idea of a "good story" is one where their is constant war between all player factions, despite their ideologies or policies.

Is that really someone we want in this RP?

Keyguyperson said App review coming soon, if you still want to join after all this shit went down.

I look forward to it, sir :)

duck55223 said
There is so many other reasons Wilson needs to be banned.For one he just openly admitted he created a faction purely to piss off a sole player, which is wrong and creates more OOC conflict and proves that he is not capable of forgetting the past. I am more then willing to drop the past, but he keeps on bring it up. He has constantly beat up on a sole player as well, and has tried to continue arguments after they were long since settled. It's like he relies off conflict to live or something.I will admit, I am far from perfect. I have several areas where I need drastic improvement, but Wilson acts likes he so much better then everyone else. His idea of "fair" is where he has a faction capable of butt-raping every single person in the RP. His idea of "restrictions" are ones that everyone else has to abide by but he has some form of bullshit technology that bypasses them. His idea of a "good story" is one where their is constant war between all player factions, despite their ideologies or policies.Is that really someone we want in this RP?

He did it as a fair play as you did nothing but piss off other players. So, he just gave you a sizable wound the same one you gave him. Which obviously didn't work as you cheated in a fight.

His version of fair is where everyone has a chance of fighting off an enemy. Where as you could apparently have endless waves of slaughtering someone, especially for no reason.

duck55223 said
There is so many other reasons Wilson needs to be banned.For one he just openly admitted he created a faction purely to piss off a sole player, which is wrong and creates more OOC conflict and proves that he is not capable of forgetting the past. I am more then willing to drop the past, but he keeps on bring it up. He has constantly beat up on a sole player as well, and has tried to continue arguments after they were long since settled. It's like he relies off conflict to live or something.I will admit, I am far from perfect. I have several areas where I need drastic improvement, but Wilson acts likes he so much better then everyone else. His idea of "fair" is where he has a faction capable of butt-raping every single person in the RP. His idea of "restrictions" are ones that everyone else has to abide by but he has some form of bullshit technology that bypasses them. His idea of a "good story" is one where their is constant war between all player factions, despite their ideologies or policies.Is that really someone we want in this RP?

THIS.

Also, Cale Tucker, go read the rules for once. The last two were broken. They say "No emotional breakdowns in the OOC." and "NO HEATED ARGUMENTS IN THE OOC." The latter obviously isn't a bannable offense, as it usually has two offenders at once. If the argument is broken up or ends, then it;s all good. The first is far, far more serious. If someone has a breakdown, then who's to say they won't have another? Who's to say they won't have one in IC?

Combined, those rules are a bannable offense. Possibly not perma-bannable, but still bannable. Now, when someone implies that all the other roleplayers are "Doing it wrong" because they're not adhering to what that someone wants, THATS it. Perma-ban. Again, we can hold a vote right now if you want. See who wants Wilson back. I don't have any objection to that vote taking place, nobody will get punished for voting "yes".

Given how Wilson has continued this argument ever since the induction of FSTS (Maybe even longer than that) with Duck, I do vote "yes" on a ban.

TwistedSun said
Well, well, seems I've found a way to enter this NRP without having to toil much.Basically, I took part of an another nation sheet I did for a (apparently) dead rp. Please be kind :)

Accepted!

Also, Cale, sorry if my earlier posts seemed aggressive. I was kinda stressed out over unrelated things.

Keyguyperson said
THIS.Also, Cale Tucker, go read the rules for once. The last two were broken. They say "No emotional breakdowns in the OOC." and "NO HEATED ARGUMENTS IN THE OOC." The latter obviously isn't a bannable offense, as it usually has two offenders at once. If the argument is broken up or ends, then it;s all good. The first is far, far more serious. If someone has a breakdown, then who's to say they won't have another? Who's to say they won't have one in IC?Combined, those rules are a bannable offense. Possibly not perma-bannable, but still bannable. Now, when someone implies that all the other roleplayers are "Doing it wrong" because they're not adhering to what that someone wants, THATS it. Perma-ban. Again, we can hold a vote right now if you want. See who wants Wilson back. I don't have any objection to that vote taking place, nobody will get punished for voting "yes".

None of that would have happened had you actually fixed the problem. It isn't mature to blame someone else for your mistakes.

Also, if you're going to choose to get rid of Wilson because you don't like his opinion, cool. But unless you're a mod, the most you're voting for is to kick him out.

If this was actually started by a moderator, which would be sad as only the mods should make the decision, then I vote no to a ban.
I vote no to a site ban, I am neutral on kicking them from the roleplay

Secondly, Keyguy, by your statements, Duck deserves a ban for at aleast two break downs. We are all human. What do you expect to happen when we are cornered? And if needed, I will give proof of several kinds, in character posts, OOC posts, opinions of other players, etc of Ducks power playing and completely outrageous bullshit. By that I mean, I don't know how to describe utterly fake and unbelievable actions even with magic in play.

duck55223 said
I actually required to defend the planet, because of publicity reasons. I have people that actually care, instead of just mindless forms.And the sole reason the Fleet Shields have been like this is because you BSed in these ships that are ridiculously powerful and OP.HOW THE HELL DID YOU STEAL EARTH'S MOON!? WHEN DID YOU!? WOULDN'T THE HUMANS HAVE STOPPED YOU AND NOTICED!?

duck55223 said
Such a stupid think to critize me for. At this point your just finding the stupidest things to critize me about. Now on to a explanation. Both FTL comms and travel for the Iscandarians are near-instaneous, only takes a few seconds. A fleet is also active in the area as fleet coordinate scouting operations, so there are active ships to send. Combine that with the fact that the scout ship has been communicating with both the fleet and Aaliyah its safe to say that within the 5 or so minutes that occured in my post it is not as OP and godmod as you say.Oh and for the final timeI HAVE ADDED RULES AND RESTRICTIONS TO MAGIC INCLUDING TO MAJOR WEAKNESSES WITH MY SYSTEMS. I AM OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTIONS OTHERS MIGHT HAVE FOR RULES AND RESTRICTIONS. STOP SAYING THERE ISNT ANY WHEN THERE IS DUMBASS.

P. S. - removing the earths moon would cause chaos and destruction, annihilating life.... If I recall correctly

So, I finished my assignments, managed to clear my mind and got some descent sleep. "Alright, let's get back on RPerguild"

...

Seriously, what the hell did I come back to?

[Edit out please]

You came back to a bomb site...

Yeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah... not the most pleasant thing.
I'm going to abstain from the vote, but I'll wait until this is settled before I post.