So when do we get to post?

So when do we get to post?

I did give you guys the green light, but it's okay, I know peeps aren't comfortable until the GM makes the first post. Good news is, I'm home now, so gimme a little bit and I'll have mine up.

Nation's Name: Bayou Republic Leader's/Government's Name: Given name is Louise Arson. He changed his name to Napoleon Quatre after he took control of his area. Choose an area on the map for your nation and draw the borders for me to see, or describe them. I will colour the area in, and label it for you on the main map: Louisiana Description of Technology: Life Technology The Bayou Republic's technology orbits around 3 things, How to make guns, How to make food, and how to make more guns. This means that the Bayou Republic is very militaristic, with the harvest weapons from the Shreveport and Fort Polk bases in the nation they have the ability to use drones, but that doesn't mean they love to fight head on. They use what they call modified Bayonets, they are basically Machine Guns with swords welded on top of them. When low on those weapons though, they aren't afraid to just use normal hunting weapons overall. City Scape Technology Large Cities such as New Orleans are much more advanced then cities such as Bunkie. New Orleans also has the largest port in the Republic, which means that most of the countries military and trade ships are planted there, ready to deploy at any moment. Shreveport holds the largest military base in the country, with a large amount of left over drones in that area. They government of the Bayou Republic are also in the process of building a wall around the city. Description of Society: Society in the Bayou Republic is a Social Pyramid. The races of the nation, though most seem similar, are all divided. The Highest on the Pyramid are the Cajun-Creole group. The current leader is Cajun-Creole. Next up on the list are the bulk of the population. They are just the normal southerners. They are simply known as the dixie. Lastly are the African Americans, treated poorly, but still not slaves. Most of the High class do not treat African Americans well typically giving them the worst jobs possible. The Republic is also a bit like Switzerland. Everyone in the country by law must own a gun and they are all legally in the military if they are in the ages between 16 and 46. Though only a few use the military as the full time job, most are use only for invasions or defence. Description of any significant industries your nation operates. I.e blacksmithing, gun making, agriculture. This'll help any potential future trade deals take place with other players: The Bayou Republic focuses on building military goods, they trade with small wandering groups or other countries by using the Mississippi River. They also produce plenty of boats, from fishing to military. Agriculture was a big part of Louisiana before the zombies came, but most Tractors where taken and modified as military vehicles. Population: 90K, with the swamps around the area, most people who die are thrown in them, this was learned far after the main sweep of zombies came in though.

If this is still accepting, I'd like to reserve North Carolina and Virginia.

Throwing this up here. I'll add it to the character tab if I get approval. - Nation's Name: Deutschland -Leader's/Government's Name: Caleb Yoder Yoder and two other elders are representatives for the community appointed by the population to serve their interest. Like the old New England Town Meeting form of government, the population as a whole vote on decisions while the Elders carry out their wishes. -Territory: Western Pennsylvania -Description of Technology: Like the past hundreds of years, Deutschland has very little technology outside of the recently acquired guns, gas masks, and medicine that the people have scavenged from nearby cities, or traded for with the English. They get by on manual labor and literal horsepower. -Description of Society- Deutschland is the remnants of the Pennsylvania Dutch, the Amish community in the state. While the world collapsed around them, they banded together and became even more insular, shunning the English and the wickedness that had allowed the world to end. Unfortunately, the outside world came calling in the form of raiders who stole their food and people, and the infected who wiped out their strong population. The once passive people now saw the need to protect themselves, they needed to adopt a few ways of the English to survive. They now highly militant and even more standoffish with the rest of the world. They trade with nearby communities, but will not allow outsiders inside their lands. Led by Caleb Yoder as First Elder, Deutschland continues to rebuild and grow stronger. - Population – 4,621 -Industries: The Amish have reputations as skilled craftsman. They are experts in subjects ranging from carpentry and smithing to baking and sewing. In addition, they are well adept at farming and have a steady supply of food that they grow for consumption and trade.

Um, KillAllKebab, you can't have that large of a population. Maximum for the American theater is 100,000. You bring it over that, not to mention having significantly more people than anyone else.

Um, KillAllKebab, you can't have that large of a population. Maximum for the American theater is 100,000. You bring it over that, not to mention having significantly more people than anyone else.

The entirety of a population isn't all military dedicated. 100,000 isn't all that large given he's claiming all of Lousiana with a modern population of 4 million. By all standards, a tenth of the population can safely be in the military under certain conditions, providing they're not warrior nomads or trying to build a modern industrial lifestyle with very non-industrial means. As well, a tenth of that would safely be only what they'd be able to deploy in offensive operations without jeopardizing home.

Um, KillAllKebab, you can't have that large of a population. Maximum for the American theater is 100,000. You bring it over that, not to mention having significantly more people than anyone else.

The entirety of a population isn't all military dedicated. 100,000 isn't all that large given he's claiming all of Lousiana with a modern population of 4 million. By all standards, a tenth of the population can safely be in the military under certain conditions, providing they're not warrior nomads or trying to build a modern industrial lifestyle with very non-industrial means. As well, a tenth of that would safely be only what they'd be able to deploy in offensive operations without jeopardizing home.

I know, but Dual stipulated that there can be no more than 100,000 people in population for the American theater. Not one nation, but all nations totaled.

Um, KillAllKebab, you can't have that large of a population. Maximum for the American theater is 100,000. You bring it over that, not to mention having significantly more people than anyone else.

The entirety of a population isn't all military dedicated. 100,000 isn't all that large given he's claiming all of Lousiana with a modern population of 4 million. By all standards, a tenth of the population can safely be in the military under certain conditions, providing they're not warrior nomads or trying to build a modern industrial lifestyle with very non-industrial means. As well, a tenth of that would safely be only what they'd be able to deploy in offensive operations without jeopardizing home.

I know, but Dual stipulated that there can be no more than 100,000 people in population for the American theater. Not one nation, but all nations totaled.

What Aaron is trying to say is that 100,000 is unrealistically low anyways. The population of New Kiev is a third of that of my hometown, which is small anyways, and New Kiev is ALL OF SOUTH CAROLINA. A single military base could supply the entirety of North America with weapons if the population is 100,000. The only nations in the world with a population at all comparable to that of our nations are tiny island nations (mainly UK territories), the Vatican, and Sealand. Examples of nations with a comparable population to that of the entirety of North America in this RP are the illustrious and famous nations of the "Independent and Sovereign Republic of Kiribati" and the "Federated States of Micronesia". Then we have to take into account the many, many people actively organizing doomsday shelters already. Imagine what it would be like after asteroids show up! Everyone would be going crazy, buying rooms in bunkers that are already being set up for commercial sale.

I'm going to be writing up a sheet once the population figure discrepancies are settled by Dual.

Still have space? I would be interested

Um, KillAllKebab, you can't have that large of a population. Maximum for the American theater is 100,000. You bring it over that, not to mention having significantly more people than anyone else.

The entirety of a population isn't all military dedicated. 100,000 isn't all that large given he's claiming all of Lousiana with a modern population of 4 million. By all standards, a tenth of the population can safely be in the military under certain conditions, providing they're not warrior nomads or trying to build a modern industrial lifestyle with very non-industrial means. As well, a tenth of that would safely be only what they'd be able to deploy in offensive operations without jeopardizing home.

I know, but Dual stipulated that there can be no more than 100,000 people in population for the American theater. Not one nation, but all nations totaled.

What Aaron is trying to say is that 100,000 is unrealistically low anyways. The population of New Kiev is a third of that of my hometown, which is small anyways, and New Kiev is ALL OF SOUTH CAROLINA. A single military base could supply the entirety of North America with weapons if the population is 100,000. The only nations in the world with a population at all comparable to that of our nations are tiny island nations (mainly UK territories), the Vatican, and Sealand. Examples of nations with a comparable population to that of the entirety of North America in this RP are the illustrious and famous nations of the "Independent and Sovereign Republic of Kiribati" and the "Federated States of Micronesia". Then we have to take into account the many, many people actively organizing doomsday shelters already. Imagine what it would be like after asteroids show up! Everyone would be going crazy, buying rooms in bunkers that are already being set up for commercial sale.

With a population of a few thousand anyways you're not really running a nation anymore. You're running a small town. So it becomes pointless in the grand scheme unless you want to play City Builder. Presuming this even could have killed 90% of any state's population from infection or violence after the fact we'd all still be looking at populations in the few hundred ten thousands. There may be larger drops in more densly populated regions since this sort of density would lend into making infection easier. But for the Carolinas and Lousiana it'd be laughable to dive well below Dakota-tier population.

100,000 cus we're not the only ones in merica. 100,000, cus the world got decimated. 100,000, cus it allows room for NPC survivor colonies to be assimilated. Unless you expected your women to be equipped with Gatling-gun style genitals, capable of firing out 20 babies a minute, how else did you expect to reclaim land? Nations aren't made from a baby boom or a population surge, though these certainly help. They're created by assimilating smaller/larger entities into themselves. Am I right or am I right?

I still don't get where everyone's getting at with the hundred-thousand being too much fear. As pointed out by Keyguy a lot of these populations are barely sustainable for some small towns. And with the amount of territory everyone's claiming then the population density is not just low, it's extinction level. Even a 90% population drop over any state will still leave more than a hundred thousand around within the claimed territory.

I'm sorry, maybe I should have explained what is meant by "Rise of Nations". So, our nations aren't really alive yet. They're ideals, floated by people that have so far banded together and fronted a working society. They're not pre-built. They're not "there". They're "rising", and that is to say, they're being built. By any and all means necessary. If your nation started with 350,000 people, and occupied Florida. Well, it isn't rising is it? It's an established power, it's risen! If you're telling me that NONE of you have any idea of how to found and establish a nation, then Great Scot! Turn that imagination machine of yours on, and stop relying on that set-menu mentality.

I would argue a nation with planes and the like, or vast resources, is a nation that has already risen, too.

I would argue a nation with planes and the like, or vast resources, is a nation that has already risen, too.

Just because one has planes doesn't mean they can use them

*Smacks head against the wall* Well that's it, I'm out. What a fucking joke. Is this how you guys play RPs? Someone makes one, and then you join, but rather than post, you start trying to take up a fight where there's no battle? I thought it was odd that this site's NRP section was a bit dead-ish looking, but now I think I understand why.

*Smacks head against the wall* Well that's it, I'm out. What a fucking joke. Is this how you guys play RPs? Someone makes one, and then you join, but rather than post, you start trying to take up a fight where there's no battle? I thought it was odd that this site's NRP section was a bit dead-ish looking, but now I think I understand why.

Is this how you GM RPs? Jumping out whenever someone dares to go against your opinion (In this case, cracking because of a one-line post about a lot of resources making a risen nation)? Here. I'm gonna post my argument here so you can go ahead and read it, which you won't, because you're apparently too angry to do anything but insult people who thought you had a good idea and were willing to pour significant amounts of their time into said idea. I would highly suggest that you read my interview in RPGN. Maybe you'll learn a tiny bit about how to GM an NRP. Or RP in general. Because you seem to need help with that.

I'm sorry, maybe I should have explained what is meant by "Rise of Nations". So, our nations aren't really alive yet. They're ideals, floated by people that have so far banded together and fronted a working society. They're not pre-built. They're not "there". They're "rising", and that is to say, they're being built. By any and all means necessary. If your nation started with 350,000 people, and occupied Florida. Well, it isn't rising is it? It's an established power, it's risen! If you're telling me that NONE of you have any idea of how to found and establish a nation, then Great Scot! Turn that imagination machine of yours on, and stop relying on that set-menu mentality.

I get that, these aren't nations. The thing is, if you're expecting us to somehow make a nation over the course of this roleplay, you're mistaken. Gravely mistaken. Let's assume that every woman has five children. It's practically inevitable that the majority of those will die from disease (try getting antibiotics to even workthis far in the future). If we decide to be ludicrously optimistic, that leaved two children. If we go at the (quite fast, mind you) pace of one page=one year, that means fourteen or fifteen pages until a working population double. To get any kind of "nation" going, we'd have to have quite a few of those. If we keep going by this, it's 96 pages until we reach 160,000, which is kinda sorta enough to have a large town. Still not any nations, and of course, people died in that 96 year period. So let's keep going. 1,280,000 comes 144 pages later, and at that point we would have a major city-sized population. This is 144 years later. If we assume that everyone avoided industrialization like a plague (which they definitely didn't, because shipbuilding is already a thing), then we'd finally have low population density nations. So yeah. It would take a hundred pages to get there. Now, let's think about these "colonies" you seem to have planned. At this point, humanity is spread out and not industrialized (If we are industrialized by then, which we will be, then we still don't have any nations until perhaps even 200 pages), nobody is founding a colony by then. These colonies would only happen around 200 pages, which is a random guess based off of the fact that the entire planet is trying to kill us, there will totally be wars, NUCLEAR WEAPONS ARE MENTIONED, and diseases exist in general. And that's if I'm being optimistic. As I said before: NUCLEAR WEAPONS ARE MENTIONED. THEY EXIST AND CAN BE USED. If I was being more realistic in my predictions? The point of colonization would never be reached due to nuclear war killing the vast majority of everyone. Now, let's change gears and talk about your last comment. "If you're telling me that NONE of you have any idea of how to found and establish a nation, then Great Scot! Turn that imagination machine of yours on, and stop relying on that set-menu mentality." I hope that was sarcasm. We're a bunch of random people from all over the world, and I'd be willing to bet that none of us are fucking George Washington or Alexander the Great. Some of us may not even know how to drive yet. What do you expect us to do with a few thousand people? Invent mass cloning and extreme genetic manipulation?

And given the size of the territory are claiming I highly doubt this can actually be fully manned on the triple-zero score. Even the Rocky Mountain "Hegemony" or whatever holds enough population centers inside of it to have a population of a couple ten thousand. Sure, all they got are tiny towns and one large Indian reservation, but they shouldn't have triple zeroes. They'd still have tremendously low population density, but they wouldn't be able to do anything. Under the proposed numbers you will be restricting many of us to just play around in our borders. Assuming we take up conventional social structures or even the social structure of medieval Western Europe we'd hardly have enough population to actually act outside of our borders in any significant way. So you're asking many to do effectively nothing for hundreds of pages, or proposing we somehow conquer settlements with equal population, in which case the likely disorganized fighting and the elements will probably lead to little population growth. And on Windsor itself, Jec's Canada-ville could easily have twenty-thousand people based out of the ruins of Windsor, Ottawa. Which'd make it easily about the size of medieval London or 13th century Rome in terms of approximate population.