So when do we get to post?
So when do we get to post?I did give you guys the green light, but it's okay, I know peeps aren't comfortable until the GM makes the first post. Good news is, I'm home now, so gimme a little bit and I'll have mine up.
Um, KillAllKebab, you can't have that large of a population. Maximum for the American theater is 100,000. You bring it over that, not to mention having significantly more people than anyone else.The entirety of a population isn't all military dedicated. 100,000 isn't all that large given he's claiming all of Lousiana with a modern population of 4 million. By all standards, a tenth of the population can safely be in the military under certain conditions, providing they're not warrior nomads or trying to build a modern industrial lifestyle with very non-industrial means. As well, a tenth of that would safely be only what they'd be able to deploy in offensive operations without jeopardizing home.
I know, but Dual stipulated that there can be no more than 100,000 people in population for the American theater. Not one nation, but all nations totaled.Um, KillAllKebab, you can't have that large of a population. Maximum for the American theater is 100,000. You bring it over that, not to mention having significantly more people than anyone else.The entirety of a population isn't all military dedicated. 100,000 isn't all that large given he's claiming all of Lousiana with a modern population of 4 million. By all standards, a tenth of the population can safely be in the military under certain conditions, providing they're not warrior nomads or trying to build a modern industrial lifestyle with very non-industrial means. As well, a tenth of that would safely be only what they'd be able to deploy in offensive operations without jeopardizing home.
What Aaron is trying to say is that 100,000 is unrealistically low anyways. The population of New Kiev is a third of that of my hometown, which is small anyways, and New Kiev is ALL OF SOUTH CAROLINA. A single military base could supply the entirety of North America with weapons if the population is 100,000. The only nations in the world with a population at all comparable to that of our nations are tiny island nations (mainly UK territories), the Vatican, and Sealand. Examples of nations with a comparable population to that of the entirety of North America in this RP are the illustrious and famous nations of the "Independent and Sovereign Republic of Kiribati" and the "Federated States of Micronesia". Then we have to take into account the many, many people actively organizing doomsday shelters already. Imagine what it would be like after asteroids show up! Everyone would be going crazy, buying rooms in bunkers that are already being set up for commercial sale.I know, but Dual stipulated that there can be no more than 100,000 people in population for the American theater. Not one nation, but all nations totaled.Um, KillAllKebab, you can't have that large of a population. Maximum for the American theater is 100,000. You bring it over that, not to mention having significantly more people than anyone else.The entirety of a population isn't all military dedicated. 100,000 isn't all that large given he's claiming all of Lousiana with a modern population of 4 million. By all standards, a tenth of the population can safely be in the military under certain conditions, providing they're not warrior nomads or trying to build a modern industrial lifestyle with very non-industrial means. As well, a tenth of that would safely be only what they'd be able to deploy in offensive operations without jeopardizing home.
With a population of a few thousand anyways you're not really running a nation anymore. You're running a small town. So it becomes pointless in the grand scheme unless you want to play City Builder. Presuming this even could have killed 90% of any state's population from infection or violence after the fact we'd all still be looking at populations in the few hundred ten thousands. There may be larger drops in more densly populated regions since this sort of density would lend into making infection easier. But for the Carolinas and Lousiana it'd be laughable to dive well below Dakota-tier population.What Aaron is trying to say is that 100,000 is unrealistically low anyways. The population of New Kiev is a third of that of my hometown, which is small anyways, and New Kiev is ALL OF SOUTH CAROLINA. A single military base could supply the entirety of North America with weapons if the population is 100,000. The only nations in the world with a population at all comparable to that of our nations are tiny island nations (mainly UK territories), the Vatican, and Sealand. Examples of nations with a comparable population to that of the entirety of North America in this RP are the illustrious and famous nations of the "Independent and Sovereign Republic of Kiribati" and the "Federated States of Micronesia". Then we have to take into account the many, many people actively organizing doomsday shelters already. Imagine what it would be like after asteroids show up! Everyone would be going crazy, buying rooms in bunkers that are already being set up for commercial sale.I know, but Dual stipulated that there can be no more than 100,000 people in population for the American theater. Not one nation, but all nations totaled.Um, KillAllKebab, you can't have that large of a population. Maximum for the American theater is 100,000. You bring it over that, not to mention having significantly more people than anyone else.The entirety of a population isn't all military dedicated. 100,000 isn't all that large given he's claiming all of Lousiana with a modern population of 4 million. By all standards, a tenth of the population can safely be in the military under certain conditions, providing they're not warrior nomads or trying to build a modern industrial lifestyle with very non-industrial means. As well, a tenth of that would safely be only what they'd be able to deploy in offensive operations without jeopardizing home.
I would argue a nation with planes and the like, or vast resources, is a nation that has already risen, too.Just because one has planes doesn't mean they can use them
*Smacks head against the wall* Well that's it, I'm out. What a fucking joke. Is this how you guys play RPs? Someone makes one, and then you join, but rather than post, you start trying to take up a fight where there's no battle? I thought it was odd that this site's NRP section was a bit dead-ish looking, but now I think I understand why.Is this how you GM RPs? Jumping out whenever someone dares to go against your opinion (In this case, cracking because of a one-line post about a lot of resources making a risen nation)? Here. I'm gonna post my argument here so you can go ahead and read it, which you won't, because you're apparently too angry to do anything but insult people who thought you had a good idea and were willing to pour significant amounts of their time into said idea. I would highly suggest that you read my interview in RPGN. Maybe you'll learn a tiny bit about how to GM an NRP. Or RP in general. Because you seem to need help with that.
I'm sorry, maybe I should have explained what is meant by "Rise of Nations". So, our nations aren't really alive yet. They're ideals, floated by people that have so far banded together and fronted a working society. They're not pre-built. They're not "there". They're "rising", and that is to say, they're being built. By any and all means necessary. If your nation started with 350,000 people, and occupied Florida. Well, it isn't rising is it? It's an established power, it's risen! If you're telling me that NONE of you have any idea of how to found and establish a nation, then Great Scot! Turn that imagination machine of yours on, and stop relying on that set-menu mentality.I get that, these aren't nations. The thing is, if you're expecting us to somehow make a nation over the course of this roleplay, you're mistaken. Gravely mistaken. Let's assume that every woman has five children. It's practically inevitable that the majority of those will die from disease (try getting antibiotics to even workthis far in the future). If we decide to be ludicrously optimistic, that leaved two children. If we go at the (quite fast, mind you) pace of one page=one year, that means fourteen or fifteen pages until a working population double. To get any kind of "nation" going, we'd have to have quite a few of those. If we keep going by this, it's 96 pages until we reach 160,000, which is kinda sorta enough to have a large town. Still not any nations, and of course, people died in that 96 year period. So let's keep going. 1,280,000 comes 144 pages later, and at that point we would have a major city-sized population. This is 144 years later. If we assume that everyone avoided industrialization like a plague (which they definitely didn't, because shipbuilding is already a thing), then we'd finally have low population density nations. So yeah. It would take a hundred pages to get there. Now, let's think about these "colonies" you seem to have planned. At this point, humanity is spread out and not industrialized (If we are industrialized by then, which we will be, then we still don't have any nations until perhaps even 200 pages), nobody is founding a colony by then. These colonies would only happen around 200 pages, which is a random guess based off of the fact that the entire planet is trying to kill us, there will totally be wars, NUCLEAR WEAPONS ARE MENTIONED, and diseases exist in general. And that's if I'm being optimistic. As I said before: NUCLEAR WEAPONS ARE MENTIONED. THEY EXIST AND CAN BE USED. If I was being more realistic in my predictions? The point of colonization would never be reached due to nuclear war killing the vast majority of everyone. Now, let's change gears and talk about your last comment. "If you're telling me that NONE of you have any idea of how to found and establish a nation, then Great Scot! Turn that imagination machine of yours on, and stop relying on that set-menu mentality." I hope that was sarcasm. We're a bunch of random people from all over the world, and I'd be willing to bet that none of us are fucking George Washington or Alexander the Great. Some of us may not even know how to drive yet. What do you expect us to do with a few thousand people? Invent mass cloning and extreme genetic manipulation?