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@Tharraleos Polemistis Are you interested in joining the ranks as well?
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So... if it's street level destruction does that mean I can use a battle mech?



I feel like everyone's characters thus far have been too weak for mid-tier powered, considering you're looking at about tier 5 on the old system. Might as well limit this to a low powered tournament, or someone like my character here will come in and kill everyone on their own, and be well within 'street level' destruction.

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I feel like perhaps the concept on what qualifies as "Powered" might be a little too vague. To my mind, most of the characters I've seen would fall far above the level of what Innue described as "the mid to lower end of the second tier". I've always thought the idea of a tournament was to submit balanced characters and let the writing decide the victor, not to have a contest of who can think up the more powerful character.

Personally, I feel that some powers should just not be allowed in a tournament, such as gesture-less magic, telekenesis and similar uncounterable effects, and self healing.
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Well since we have not seen who has or has not been accepted, to presume that Innue won't make suggested changes to powers to make them more 'inline' is jumping the gun. I have already had to alter a power to bring it inline with Innue's balancing.
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I agree with that, I just think that the entry specifications are incredibly vague.

Looking at it, your modern character Skallagrim will be more than a match for most if not all of the characters here in anything other than the most unfavourable conditions.

Modern technology is arguably better than any magic, and if you don't believe me look up some specs for the average MBT, my character's mech is actually less powerful in terms of armour and firepower.

Is a tank higher than mid tier? lol.
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Oh I never said technology wasn't a match for magic or fantasy based characters. I think a well written and played tech character is a challenge no doubt.
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@Nightangel

I'm not going to outright state an ability is not acceptable based on the nature of it. That is not how I operate for anything, as there can be perfectly balanced examples of those things within the tier.

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My definition of what is 'mid tier' in terms of power might be different from yours. However, people have been submitting characters within the scope of what I am looking for - maybe trending slightly towards the lower end. There seems to be a strong preference for closer range characters and less of a stress on destructive magical force which may be the reason it is trending that way. I would have seen it more comparative to the 2-4 on your old system, if I recall it correctly.

You can use a battlemech if you so choose, but I stated I will be limiting the upper end speed on projectiles.

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Shidenblades' and Skalagrim's characters were both given preliminary approvals.
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I won't use the battlemech here, I was just making a point. I don't think anyone's characters (save maybe Skallagrim's firebased weaponry, if used very carefully) has a chance of even scratching the armour of a tank.

I'll probably enter a different character on the lower end of 'powered' as I prefer that level myself.
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There are too many abilities that could fall under either of those levels depending on how they are done, which is why the scope is somewhat vague.

A battlemech could be used, but it would likely need certain changes to be appropriately in line with what I am thinking. I also think some of the characters would surprise you in terms of efficacy against it.
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Unless I completely abandon physics (which does seem to be the case if we're slowing bullets down.) then physically there just isn't anyone here with a weapon that can pierce the armour of the mech. To adjust the mech to a level where people could fight it with swords would also require a complete abandonment of logic and reason, because swords just can't cut through the armour of vehicles designed with modern day firepower in mind.

Even with magic there isn't really anyone who can come close, as the most destructive of magics at this tier only tend to be effective against organic opponents, and to use magic that could produce enough force to come close to piercing the armour of even a pretty shit tank would essentially mean you could kill any other character here in one hit.

Your best bet (and it's still pretty hopeless) would be some sort of magic that exploits its relatively cumbersome size, or a very quick character that can outrun its turning circle, though even then that's only if we're discounting the fact that the anti-material rifle could have put a hole through your body before you even saw it.

With all this in mind, I'll just be making another super-powered fleshy for the grinder, though I'm pretty sure they'll be incinerated by Skallagrim's incendiary rounds if I happen to be unlucky enough to get matched against him. Those things are like half again hotter than a flamethrower, everyone is fucked.
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If you think that we could not so much as scratch a tank, you are being very naive. :L
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The rounds only last for a few seconds at most unless they touch something that can be easily set ablaze, and by easily I mean dried kindling easy. Dragon's breath are mostly to cause damage to property and occasionally someone unlucky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnA9yyE2ma8
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The rounds only last for a few seconds at most unless they touch something that can be easily set ablaze, and by easily I mean dried kindling easy. Dragon's breath are mostly to cause damage to property and occasionally someone unlucky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnA9yyE2ma8


Dragon's breath was probably the ones I meant, I was quoting from memory and I only had the one look earlier.

I appreciate you insulting me again Tuujaimaa, it was a figure of speech, though if you genuinely believe any of the other characters here can penetrate a modern day tank then you're the one who's 'naive'.
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Melon, I have two rounds one is a fireball/dragons breath and the other is an incendiary round. They both do in effect the same thing, the only difference is that the fireball has a longer stream range.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwhCygmhbCg
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Melon, I have two rounds one is a fireball/dragons breath and the other is an incendiary round. They both do in effect the same thing, the only difference is that the fireball has a longer stream range.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwhCygmhbCg


That looks incredibly painful.

Weird they didn't set the trees on fire though.
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Huh, those incendiary rounds look surprisingly tame. It could burn pretty deep at 3000 Fahrenheit, but judging by how quickly it goes out, i'd imagine that simple leather armor or even a thick enough gambeson could stop it. Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong though.
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I assume players can jump onto the tank and open it up like Chewie does to the AT-STs from Star Wars. Can we also assume the doors would be able to be broken into with a well place sword into some gap? Or that's probably assuming to much.
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I assume players can jump onto the tank and open it up like Chewie does to the AT-STs from Star Wars. Can we also assume the doors would be able to be broken into with a well place sword into some gap? Or that's probably assuming to much.


I think Hollywood is probably responsible for the myth that a tank can be accessed so easily, especially modern day tanks. They're more like mobile bunkers.

You've also somehow dodged the 50. machine gun that would probably be putting large holes in your chest as you do that, of course.

Hell, modern day tanks can't even destroy other modern day tanks. The Americans lost one of their tanks to the terrain once and couldn't even blow it up themselves to deny it to the enemy.
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Someone with earth powers would be pretty skilled at fighting a tank and pound them from underneath, but building characters just to fight certain characters is a dangerous game.
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Someone with earth powers would be pretty skilled at fighting a tank and pound them from underneath, but building characters just to fight certain characters is a dangerous game.


They could probably immobilize it, though they would presumably be within range of the cannon and blown to pieces, plus tanks can move pretty fast, probably faster than most of the characters here actually.
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