<Snipped quote by Mihndar>Only the very apex of Tin could be having tundra-like conditions. And even that is seriously debatable.
The rest are desert, mediterranean/tropical or moderate climates.

Slip of the tongue. I meant to say a lot of Tin is useless desert and a lot of the nations above that (Ventium, Avalia, Kataylabinsk) have a lot of useless tundra.

@Mihndar All that useless desert is a decent trade off for massive amounts of oil.

Here it is, ladies and gentlemen, hold onto your bootstraps!



http://i.imgur.com/oXrTpTm.png

I must say it looks a lot better if you click on the link, the forum kind of scrunches it.

I'm cutting a bit more out of Tin, but keep in mind a lot of Tin and a lot of the northern nations is useless tundra, whereas you're near the equator and have a much higher percentage of usable land.

I'd like to all be friends here and not get too heated, but I'm actually rather pissed that you cut swathes of Tin out, in spite of the fact that the borders previously made sense geographically (following mountains and rivers) and that I'd already drawn my own relatively detailed map and how my sheet talked about how the northern riverlands and southwestern mountains were important economically (both features seem to have been taken), and now all that will be redone. To boot you didn't even ask me.

As in for the neighbors having mostly useless tundra, even if we assume that's true (which I could argue against) they chose that land and didn't object when I plopped down Tin to the south. You're also ignoring the fact that I probably have the smallest ratio of usable land of anybody. Half my land is desert and plenty more is mountainous, which is good for mining but not much else. Incidentally, what grassland, riverland, and mountains that I had were what was was taken out.

With 125 million people I'm about in the middle for population. I don't have any special materials and I have the worst technology and industrialization out of all nations so far, and when I make my military section you'll see that my navy is just decent, my army mediocre at best, and my air force almost nonexistent. I did all of this just because I wanted to be the Russia-blob across the landscape. That was all I wanted, about all that made Tin stand out, but now it's actually looking like there might be a few nations that are actually bigger than me.

So needless to say I'm annoyed and disappointed by these changes to the map.

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I'd like to all be friends here and not get too heated, but I'm...

That's fine, I'll put it back. I'm not taking sides here, just showing what the two versions look like. I think Avalia has a bit too much too, Tin should have a bit more of that southern land.

This is all an approximation since the political map has no physical landforms.

Also the Avalia blue and tan is a little hard on the eyes.

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That's fine, I'll put it back. I'm not taking sides here, just showing what the two versions look like. I think Avalia has a bit too much too, Tin should have a bit more of that southern land.

This is all an approximation since the political map has no physical landforms.

Thanks. Hope I didn't come off as hostile; I appreciate you making the maps.

I wanted to be bigger, but I never really intended to take away Cyclone's land. I'm fine with him having those mountains, I just wanted to not feel like a tiny little spot on the map of giants :), since my nation was originally a decent bit larger than it appeared on Mihndar's version. If it becomes that big of a deal we can just forget about it, it's not that important to me.

Although, as Cyclone said, I appreciate Mihndar taking the time to make the maps for all us ungrateful power-mongers ;)

I would also like to add that you were always one of the two largest nations as it is, since Eisenkreis is a thing. (which is also quite close to the equator)

The nations which appear larger due to the Mercator projection are Kataylabinsk, Avalia, Ventium, and Umbraisis, but by my approximation the first two are only slightly larger than the Heavenly Empire, and the last two slightly larger than Southerm Hambria.

@MihndarOn second thought because Yamatai uses that cyan color I may need to change my color scheme.
Either that or ask @ClocktowerEchos if he wants to change it (given if you didn't choose this color on your own).
Also the letters for the Heavenly Empire should be white or silver, that's more representative and also easier on the eyes.

The colour and writing and everything you used was nice, though

@Willy VerebMate, I'm out of this RP at least for now so I'm hardcore lurking. Feel free to change the color of Yamatai to whatever as long as it seems "asian" lol

If this RP is still active in a few months, I might have Yamatai make a big comeback on to the world stage, but as of right now, its isolated itself from the rest of the world and whatever invasions have been repelled/no one found a good enough excuse to actually invade it.

@Willy Vereb The Iron Ring is more than just a simple defensive perimeter around the core of Eisenkreis, however, in that it is in some places literally a ring of iron meant to keep the world out of Eisenkreis. Flakk batteries line battlements around the border to cover possible gaps, and highly accurate radar stations watch for anything and everything on approach. This is a nation steeped in deep paranoia regarding the rest of the world, and their religion only perpetuates this almost genetic trait. To them, you all seek to conquer them and destroy their heritage, and so that is why they simply cannot waver in their determination. Kzechverin on the other hand, well... Csilla loves visitors and has never been one to turn down a guest. Not to mention that their military only became armed with rifles in the last century, and was still using spear and plate.

With the Zanjar Islands' area taken into account I reason that Tin is a bit larger than Eisenkreis, but barely. My nations' land is also much more hostile for farming and such. Ideally I'd be the biggest nation by a decent margin but I suppose that's not happening. Admittedly Eisenkreis seems like more of a confederation than a unitary and singular nation, which is somewhat consoling. If I think of them as a group of smaller, largely autonomous states that are culturally united, I can still claim IC that Tin is the biggest nation and the almighty Russia-blob.

@MihndarOn second thought because Yamatai uses that cyan color I may need to change my color scheme.
Either that or ask @ClocktowerEchos if he wants to change it (given if you didn't choose this color on your own).
Also the letters for the Heavenly Empire should be white or silver, that's more representative and also easier on the eyes.

I can change it to whatever you want, I was just running out of differentiable colors.

Got it.

@Cyclone Indeed.

This is going to be my standard SMG. Uses 7.65x19mm full mithril jacket bullets with each weighing only 1.7 grams each. The light bullets allow faster velocity and range but at the expense of some stopping power or penetration even compared to the 9mm bullets. The high velocity also requires a longer barrel and hence the SMG's design.

Despite looking small, my nation is mega-super-industrialized! I will crush you all!

In other news, I finished my Economy section, added a new section titled "Important groups" in which I added some conflicting protest organizations, a civil rights group for humans and Ajdar, and some apparent terrorism to make things more complex and add some potential for future story-lines (anti-humanists gets worse, KalMea Socialism starts finally taking hold, T.K.P. attacks again, and so on).

And, yes, I'm just saying all of this to make myself feel big and important.

...mission accomplished.

@Hael
Congrats, you're officially the Belgium of Osetia.

@Hael
Congrats, you're officially the Belgium of Osetia.

They invented french fries, that makes it all worth it.

@Willy VerebMate, I'm out of this RP at least for now so I'm hardcore lurking. Feel free to change the color of Yamatai to whatever as long as it seems "asian" lol

If this RP is still active in a few months, I might have Yamatai make a big comeback on to the world stage, but as of right now, its isolated itself from the rest of the world and whatever invasions have been repelled/no one found a good enough excuse to actually invade it.

I am aware you are currently out of this RP but I asked you about it out of common courtesy.
Alright, then:

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I can change it to whatever you want, I was just running out of differentiable colors.

Got it.

@Cyclone Indeed.

You still have plenty of different colors to use.
Clear Yellow (not the green-dirted version for Tiqsimuyu), albeit that raises the same issue as they also have contested territories.
Pink (a very Japanese color)
Deep/Dark Purple
Khaki
Brown
And so on...

Alternatively you can color me back to sky blue. That matches the color of my heraldry background anyways.
Of course with white/silver letters.