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Except for the fact that both of them want to convert you to their crazy nutso-religions so that all of your people become loyal to their heads of state.

They like to leave that detail out.


Nah, Kaliabis don't care if you are of our religion or not. Remember that most Kaliabis oppose the extremists groups who want to convert other nations. I thought I made that clear. We also aren't imperialist, with the exception of those islands.

KalMea has never attempted to convert anyone.
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Oh it's perfectly understandable that any reasonable nation that doesn't trade with Tin would hate them. They're kind of a menace...

But he did say that his nation didn't like nations that go around colonizing (Tin) and being even slightly friendly with the Yllendthyr-PRK-Avalia circle will make Tin dislike them back.


Though I would add that the PRK is really only in that circle because of Avalia and likewise with Yllendthyr.
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If we are at religion, Yllendthyr's religion while resembles the cosmology from Tolkien's LotR/Silmaril and has structure similar to the Roman Catholic Church, they are actually surprisingly open. Basically they just shrug and accept deities from other religions as probably one of the countless Ainur who worked along with Eru Illuvatar to create the world. Preferably the said Ainur are refered under mistaken names. They aren't completely vocal about this opinion, though. And it's used more as an excuse to reduce religious tensions.
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I am mostly neutral with other nations except Avalia and maybe Yllendthyr , because my nation is kinda new in the global affairs so almost none see them as a threat except for Tin.Death to the colonizators
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Well, it looks like Eisenkreis could flip to either side. I suppose we'll see how that goes once Tin starts talking to them IC.

I was originally thinking to have Tin get in good with the elves, but with the island conflict between us that's probably never happening. So at this point Tin has good reason to hold a grudge against every single nation in that triple alliance.
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666th post!

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I am mostly neutral with other nations except Avalia and maybe Yllendthyr , because my nation is kinda new in the global affairs so almost none see them as a threat except for Tin.Death to the colonizators


We'll probably end up being friends then despite the fact that you're a monarchy, cause that's also the PRK'S thing.

If you round up, this is two-thirds of a thousand posts.
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We'll probably end up being friends then despite the fact that you're a monarchy, cause that's also the PRK'S thing.

If you round up, this is two-thirds of a thousand posts.


Out of curiosity why do they even care about imperialists? I never did get that.
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Well, it looks like Eisenkreis could flip to either side. I suppose we'll see how that goes once Tin starts talking to them IC.

I was originally thinking to have Tin get in good with the elves, but with the island conflict between us that's probably never happening. So at this point Tin has good reason to hold a grudge against every single nation in that triple alliance.
Yeah, I didn't plan to have hostile relations with Tin, either.
Basically I was at war with 3-4 nations in the past (Yamatai, Umbraisis and some NPC factions I leave ambigious for now) and happy to have bought a temporary peace with them.
If possible the elves wish to avoid war with another large nation at all costs.
They also have issues with the colonies so they have enough on their plate.
Worst case scenario is that while they're busy fighting Tin, Yamatai or Umriasis will kick the armistice out of the way and strike Yllendthyr in the back.
Elves might be more diplomatic in their approach but we still talk about a nation which continously expanded. They have enough enemies.
They're just also good at making friends.
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Out of curiosity why do they even care about imperialists? I never did get that.


Imperialism is capitalism on an international scale. Larger, wealthier and more powerful countries exploiting smaller ones for their resources and manpower. Instead of robbing individual people of their wealth and labor, you're robbing an entire nation.

Also, the only problem with this RP is that due to fairness we have ended up with a whole bunch of roughly equal power nations, with a few exceptions.
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Imperialism is capitalism on an international scale. Larger, wealthier and more powerful countries exploiting smaller ones for their resources and manpower. Instead of robbing individual people of their wealth and labor, you're robbing an entire nation.
Soviet propaganda also liked to refer to the West as imperialist to put them in a more negative light.
So yeah.

Also, the only problem with this RP is that due to fairness we have ended up with a whole bunch of roughly equal power nations, with a few exceptions.
I don't think we are that much equal and it's going to show when the actual RP starts.
Yllendthyr and Tin are for example shaping up here in the OOC as the two giants in politics.
Avalia has ridiculous amount of influence too. And if you look at his military, they're surprisingly advanced.
PRK would likely fit as the fourth such nation.
So we do have the classic "power blocs" here.

Also I mention this again because it's really ironic. I wanted Yllendthyr to be a modestly powerful nation which may even be absent from much of the world politics.
I was also supposed to be more domineering.
Developments in the OOC gradually changed this image to that I'm basically the UK now.
Well, going from India to UK sounds like a pretty nice progression, actually.


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@Mihndar

But remember, this isn't a nation, just a bunch of smelly natives. And they aren't technologically advanced and aren't Ajdar, so therefore they must not even be people!

@Willy Vereb

I wonder what would happen if the elves discovered that it was the PRK that bombed their stuff, and if they didn't escalate the Tin conflict into a full on war.
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I wonder what would happen if the elves discovered that it was the PRK that bombed their stuff, and if they didn't escalate the Tin conflict into a full on war.
They would use this information to practically blackmail PRK since such action likely would hurt their relations with the other nations a lot.
PRK's ideologies clash with my nation and they're pretty much unpredictable.
This can give me the means to exert my influence over PRK a bit which could come quite handily in the future.

As for the escalation. Yllendthyr would do everything it could to avoid a war unless the odds swings to the elves' favor considerably.
If they can manage to get Avalia to participate in the war and if needed even force PRK then they might attempt this and can even do it while claiming moral high ground.
You actually have a better chance for peace if Yllendthyr doesn't realize PRK planned this whole incident.
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I would like to say that as far as I know I only supplied the weapons and bombs to the natives and that they conducted such an operation.

Not that I'm not still at fault, however.
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I would like to say that as far as I know I only supplied the weapons and bombs to the natives and that they conducted such an operation.

Not that I'm not still at fault, however.


Did you give them the weapons for free?
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Did you give them the weapons for free?


Yep. But they could have been intended either for Tin or Yllendthyr or both, it would be difficult to prove.

Also, I was bored.


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Yep. But they could have been intended either for Tin or Yllendthyr or both, it would be difficult to prove.


That makes since, but it would be a little more than suspicious that you're sending free weapons to the islands, especially considering that we all know you are unlikely to send weapons to the islands in suppport of either Tin or Yllendthyr (since that would be aiding imperialism, your arch-enemy). The only possible group you could be aiding is the natives.

It'd be best to never get caught sending weapons at all. If you do, it's just 2+2 raised to the power of communism (2+2^C) to figure out what happened.
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This offends the Red Queen, for the glorious nation of Eisenkreis is not present! D:

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That map was hilarious.
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Tiqsimuyu is not part of European maps , there are in something like South America

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