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In theory, they can - and in some ways, that's the point. Otherwise, nothing really stops people from making it, effectively a one on -insert number of NPCs/minions.- SKallagrim vs DJAtomika played this out well, but then again, Skallagrim isn't the type to nuke all the NPCs at one time without sustaining some type of damage in the process.

In general, or at least to me, the NPCs/Minions are really different words for the same thing. Random mooks designed to be destroyed. Nothing, however, stops you from controlling the ones you have left to make some type of attack against them - and hope to the high heavens you aren't going up against someone who'll stand toe to toe with 100 minions and defeat them all in a blur that rivals that of the blur in Smallville.

<Snipped quote by Rilla>You talk about two different things.
If somebody has "insert random number of enemies" then it's an abuse unless he explicitly has such power and then he's probably up against people who are on similar level of power.

What you describe is very much the same as somebody auto-destroying your swords, disarming you and rendering your powers useless. In a plain unavoidable autohit abuse.
Would you recognize this as being fair?

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I liken it to the Skallagrim vs DJ fight, again. A Gothi vs a team of trained veterans; CHo was the main one, leader as it were, and even though the rest were trained, they were still considered NPCs. If they weren't, and were more or less considered individual characters, that would have been a wholly unfair fight.

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The difference is, swords aren't NPCs, they are classified as equipment - and most people recognize that, which is why you wouldn't see anyone auto take your swords, unless they are one of those super godmodders.

But, it's not two different things. If you enter with day a main character, and he has say, 4, flanking people. Those are considered NPCs, the one that isn't is the main character and they fall under the general NPC rules. Unfortunately, those didn't also make the jump to NuGuild, as it were, but they are the same.

I liken it to the Skallagrim vs DJ fight, again. A Gothi vs a team of trained veterans; CHo was the main one, leader as it were, and even though the rest were trained, they were still considered NPCs. If they weren't, and were more or less considered individual characters, that would have been a wholly unfair fight.

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Rilla, but what if the character is a summoner, having controllable allies mentioned in his CS?

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Rilla, but what if the character is a summoner, having controllable allies mentioned in his CS?

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Summons have a slightly different rule-set, though as far as I know you'd have to hash out what sort of situation you were rolling with before-hand because there isn't a universal set of rules for this kind of thing. All I can vaguely remember is summons tend to be a few tier levels lower than the caster, can be stated to attack (but the target of the attack is up to the victim, rather than the attacker) and can be auto-hit (but not auto-killed, and it still has to be logical.)

Like I said though, if you want to bring a summoner in you'd probably have to hash out whatever rules you want to fight by yourself.

On a seperate but important subject. Melon I apologize for butting in you and LerRoy's fight but I thought I might add something to that dicussion.

So, I decided, my next ranked fight will take place like thus:

[Ranked] Rilla vs ???

IC Post.

Then, me and whichever opponent posts first - shall hash out the rules before the fight officially gets underway, the judge will post the card.

Sort of like a true open challenge.

Which means I may end up facing an opponent much stronger than I.

Rilla the character?

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Haha, I'd exploit that so hard.

Alphonse enters the battle his sword poised for an epic duel to the death.

Suddenly... a faint sound from the far-off horizon. Melodic, it sounds like an orchestra approaching on swift wings, Alphonse head perks up as he notes the tune... Ride of the Valkyries.

Cresting the horizon the great air-fleet of Nolem Daeh the Mad God swoops forth, blotting out the sky with scores of large bulbous melons... Alphonse lays down his sword in terror... his time has come.

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I'd go fruit ninja on that ass

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The difference is, swords aren't NPCs, they are classified as equipment - and most people recognize that, which is why you wouldn't see anyone auto take your swords, unless they are one of those super godmodders.

But, it's not two different things. If you enter with day a main character, and he has say, 4, flanking people. Those are considered NPCs, the one that isn't is the main character and they fall under the general NPC rules. Unfortunately, those didn't also make the jump to NuGuild, as it were, but they are the same.

I liken it to the Skallagrim vs DJ fight, again. A Gothi vs a team of trained veterans; CHo was the main one, leader as it were, and even though the rest were trained, they were still considered NPCs. If they weren't, and were more or less considered individual characters, that would have been a wholly unfair fight.

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If played straight, there wouldn't be too many people that much stronger than him.

Creation and all.