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Hidden 9 yrs ago 9 yrs ago Post by Meiyuuhi
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Well ideally any conflict should not be finished between the announcement of and the actual invasion of an irrelevant thing.


Methinks that you are taking me slightly too seriously.
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So it's recently come to my attention that several people have been bitching about my inactivity. These people aren't relying on me for anything so I wondered why and checked with someone. I found out it's basically people who don't even need me to post, bitching about me not posting because it suits them to use me as a scapegoat to justify their own laziness.

So I'll say it flatly like I told the person that briefed me on this:

I get that I'm slacking but I don't like this bullshit where people try to ride off of that to come up with their own excuses to not post, while throwing all the blame on me like a fucking scapegoat.


It's real fuckin' convenient to lay all the blame on me because I haven't posted in a long time, but it's also very, very annoying, and I feel needlessly worsens people's frustrations towards me by making them believe that my not posting is having widespread effects that are holding people back from doing their own thing, which is absolutely not the case, at least with these few people that have been bitching. No one is being held back by me not posting. Is it a bit silly? I guess. Should I post? Yeah, I should. But I am not holding anyone back, and I'd really appreciate it if you'd stop fucking pretending I am just because it suits you.

Thanks.

EDIT: I have been informed that "bitching" may not be the best word to describe the complaints, but since this somehow reached Googer, Vilage and Aaron, I have to assume the complaining is loud enough to be upsetting. Those three are already mad enough about my inactivity without people blaming me for their own lack of posts.
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So, there's a war going on. What happened so far in the war? Could anyone give me a summary?
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Ignoring Hugs post @Pepperm1nts because I talked with Vilage on this and we both settled on a way to both ignore it so I can ironically use "lol post fggt" but to keep Germany semi-relevant with Hugs-related things in mind, so in as far as it matters to the Triumverate the issue is settled. And we can probably keep Hugs about without so much "strain" as it were.

But going on to @The Grey Warden's post:

In-so-far the war's been this: Spain led by Alfonso Sotello is staunchly anti-Communist and they've put a lot of effort and time into keeping socialists and communists out of Europe. Their enemy-in-Africa - Ethiopia - has aligned itself with China since the assumption of Yaqob Yohannes, beginning a regime of drifting away from Europe and seeking allies in the Communist east, as opposed to the reign of the aloof - if pro-Europe because of it - elder brother: Sahle (who has now assumed a new identity and is now living underground as a jazz musician in Armenia).

Yaqob also received an education in China as an officer and has himself written an essay (or something) on Communism/socialist which sort of affirms his ideological stance. Spain tried to make an attempt on his life, but that failed.

Anyways, fast-forwarding through the background: Spain decided to invade Africa to clean out the Ethiopian regime as a long-term mission to try and isolate and dismantle the Chinese government which is seen as the source of all things revolutionary. The first "battle" was that at the Suez with the Spanish navy assaulting in force the meager Ethiopian garrison sent there to deal with Egyptian warlords who had been causing trouble in Ethiopian Sudan or something. The Ethiopians being undermanned and the Egyptian militias too unskilled and unarmed were not able to fight the Spanish. The Ethiopians tried to slow down or block the Spanish advancement by lodging the canal up with so much debris the Spanish effort would effectively be frozen in its tracks.

To the Spanish, who wanted a quick jab at Addis Ababa couldn't have this, and they broke through anyways. If the Ethiopians had been successful, then Spain would have to sail around the long-way to get their assets in position.

Following the battle of the Suez was the Battle of Mandeb which saw the total annihilation of the Ethiopian navy at the hands of the Spanish air force. After this is the now current Battle of Djibouti, which you can see what's going on by reading Gorgenmast and VilageidiotX's collab post. But in short: Ethiopia sets fire to Djibouti to trap the Spanish landing party and give them nothing to attack since the city is an inferno and they shelled them at the beach for part of the night. The Battle of Djibouti also marks the first engagement in which the Ethiopians had to deal with a jet, which was brought down by the swarming Ethiopian air force.

Something that probably isn't known to anyone besides Ethiopia, Spain, and China is that near the island of Socotra the Spanish and Chinese had a brief skirmish, making the first moment in which jet airplanes ever fought one another. This was to intercept a Spanish airplane deployed to shoot down the airplane carrying the Empress Azima, her son, her nephew, and the queen-mother out of the country for refuge in China. The Chinese got their late, but couldn't confirm if the Empress' plane had been shot down as much as the Spanish plane couldn't confirm. But the Spanish pilot was fatally wounded and died on his return to the Spanish armada and the Chinese jets had to make an emergency landing in Addis Ababa for refueling. One of the three sent was however forced to depart the battle early and crash-landed in Somalia - but that pilot is back and on his way to Addis.

So in so far: that's the skinny. The other factor to know behind the scenes is the possession of what's basically this RP's super-weapon by Spain: VX nerve gas. France I'm not aware would know the Spanish possess it and only a few international parties are aware. China and Ethiopia being the relevant ones in this conflict.

And Chinese involvement in this war isn't official yet.
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I don't think anybody is "mad" about you not posting. Like, we'd prefer you post, but it is a game after all and we aren't all freaked out about it. I mean, I don't think this is as personal or mean spirited as you think it is, and I'm sorry if I accidentally gave you that impression.

The first "battle" was that at the Suez with the Spanish navy assaulting in force the meager Ethiopian garrison sent there to deal with Egyptian warlords who had been causing trouble in Ethiopian Sudan or something. The Ethiopians being undermanned and the Egyptian militias too unskilled and unarmed were not able to fight the Spanish. The Ethiopians tried to slow down or block the Spanish advancement by lodging the canal up with so much debris the Spanish effort would effectively be frozen in its tracks.


To clarify, the Ethiopian contingent went to the Suez to confront Spain, not to deal with the Egyptian Warlords (who were not doing anything in Sudan). Egypt collapsed a couple of months ago in RP time along with the rest of the Ottoman Empire, so there was a contingent of Egyptians belonging to one of the post-collapse governments present at the Suez when the Ethiopians arrived. Those Egyptians saw what was going on as an invasion of their land, and got caught between the Spanish and Ethiopian forces as the battle commenced.
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To clarify, the Ethiopian contingent went to the Suez to confront Spain, not to deal with the Egyptian Warlords (who were not doing anything in Sudan). Egypt collapsed a couple of months ago in RP time along with the rest of the Ottoman Empire, so there was a contingent of Egyptians belonging to one of the post-collapse governments present at the Suez when the Ethiopians arrived. Those Egyptians saw what was going on as an invasion of their land, and got caught between the Spanish and Ethiopian forces as the battle commenced.


Oh, whoops.
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War stuff.

And Britain is using the Spanish attack on Ethiopia to retake South Africa, while they have nobody to come to their aid. So far there's been a battle in which they took the peninsula south of Cape Town, and now they're about to attack Cape Town itself. Once I stop playing Paradox games and taming dinosaurs long enough to finish my post, at least.

Much less important war, though.
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And Britain is using the Spanish attack on Ethiopia to retake South Africa, while they have nobody to come to their aid. So far there's been a battle in which they took the peninsula south of Cape Town, and now they're about to attack Cape Town itself. Once I stop playing Paradox games and taming dinosaurs long enough to finish my post, at least.

Much less important war, though.


Be careful of those mountains, they effectively funnel anything to having to go urban straight away.



I was worried you haven't noticed those exist since that post.
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Because Brazil's thing is militant anti-imperialism. And buying it is both the pansy way out and more expensive for a developing country than giving people guns and sending them in.


You know what. Just take it as long as you don't officially declare war on France, I don't want to deal with Brazil and her allies while having issues for the Great War at the same time to deal with.
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And so glorious France continues its position of colonial negligence.
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And so glorious France continues its position of colonial negligence.

Come on now, every country that had colonies had to neglect one of their colonies... Plus, I am going to tell the people that the government has given up the colony. I might give them independence just to see Brazil eat them up.

So, I found the wiki for this roleplay and I decided to not to change much for the original user (who made it). But, I did add and remove somethings that didn't made sense to me. And I fixed the errors on it.

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Ah yes, the Wiki.

Also I've seen your app. I'm just calling upon various relevant parties and being mildly distressed Vilage took this moment to snooze over Steam. I move on the voice of counsel.
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I don't know if the Franco-Prussian war is canon, but if it is I'm fine with it if no one else has a problem. The only thing that is definitely not canon about it is the CEL alliance shenanigans. Germany is kind of tricky because its old history is a mess, but I think we settled that it was split into two nations for a while, one of them named Prussia, and that they later united and became Germany again. So I don't know which nation France would have been fighting against.

Aside from that, I think the only thing to point out is that Fitzroy-France is non-canon. You can keep it if you want, I guess, but you don't have to. He was also a dude, but if you want to give him a sex-change that's probably fine too.

EDIT: Fitzroy-France is fine to keep as long as you exclude the invasions he did.
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When we did the transitional Retcons I don't recall us ever saying CEL and such was noncanon. It may have been disregarded to simplify things, but we didn't necessarily abandon it totally.

And on checking the lore summaries the Swiss Debt War at least... And Germany was evidently divided as two Republics between the end of the war and the seventies when Frederick happened.
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I'm pretty sure we did throw out CEL and their war. It didn't make any sense, anyway. @Vilageidiotx?
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I believe CEL is kill. The lore summaries in the OP are the ultimate source of canon though.
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The one thing imma note about that app though is that the term "Fascist" is anachronistic. That's a term that Mussolini and his buddies came up with, and it is a very Italian reference to the Roman "Fasces" which was a symbol of government in Italy.

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Okay, I kept the whole fascist government believing it was the Germans behind the attacks in. But, I made such that they didn't go to war with Germany/Prussia. Instead, another French Revolution happens and that government is overthrown.
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I had to sit down with @Shyri and we came to the conclusion the 1920's is early for the anarchy stuff. Especially since through till 1925 was the era of the Great War. For the most part we felt that it would be safer for France's sake if they could acquire the resources to back the Crown by the 1950's.

Besides that, I am greatly disturbed by France's sudden economic growth post-war. Though it's not often talked about there was the same sort of international Great Depression that afflicted the war. But compounded by the lingering effects of post-war recession or depression. Simply put: the systems in America and such that instigated a global financial crises was compounded by the sudden and violent drop in demand for war-time resources and a further dip in the international economy when the markets are flooded with so much cheap shit; it can be said for that reason that there's a lot of Great War surplus now.

But off the bat from the war both I and Vilage are iffy on continued strong economic growth post-war. It was a violent affair that cost everyone a lot to simply manufacture for it. And with it also acting out such great damage of France itself it would have been worse there. So I'm going to have to request that to be revisited.
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You know what. Just take it as long as you don't officially declare war on France, I don't want to deal with Brazil and her allies while having issues for the Great War at the same time to deal with.


Brazil "and her allies"

Let's pretend I have some~

But who needs allies when you're an usurper great power?
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