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Hidden 9 yrs ago Post by Plank Sinatra
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I throw my weight behind everything Krayz said

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Also Yang in volume 3 seems to suspect Emerald and Mercury, should be interesting.


I noted this too and it has me stoked. My girl's probably got in-depth notes of all the shady shit Raven leaked to her. Wonder why the rest of the team doesn't have it.
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A game can be broken just as easily by breaking the lore as breaking the balance, honestly.
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Too true, almost forgot about their interaction. Should be interesting seeing that no one else on her team seems aware of Raven.

Either way this isn't really a conversation for me as I hold no decision making authority here. If you really want to object it, talk to the GM. Either way, I asked him if he could allow it, he said he could, thus here we are.
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I'll be honest though, the lore of RWBY is a particularly loose one. That being said, I don't necessarily disagree with you, just do't think you should let it ruin your day if one team has five members and another has three. Technically speaking, there should never be a team with three, shouldn't be operable and they shouldn't be allowed to exist. Because it's always a team of four. Yet here we are. So I don't know go talk to Lugu.
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Well, strictly speaking, we don't have teams of three. We have teams of four with members so inactive we jokingly refer to them by three letters. XD And those are usually corrected when people come and join, filling in previously occupied spots in existing teams. It's how BASL got Lauren, when Trad was booted for inactivity. It's how VGNB got the other B after you were understandably inactive.

RWBY's lore is loose on a lot of things, but team number isn't traditionally one of them. And I could PM Lugu. But going above the heads of... Well, everybody, and talking to the GM in private about matters not specifically related to my team feels dishonest.

If I have an objection, I generally raise it here so people other than me can offer their own thoughts. Because saying just my opinion matters, which is kinda like what going to the GM for this sort of thing is, is pretty egotistical.
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It could be argued that while is this a game based on the world of RWBY, I feel as though this is a sort of alternate universe. While we follow most guidelines of the canon series, we can build this world to be solely ours and slightly different.

I agree with it being a little odd to have a five person team, maybe even a little unbalancing. But, I feel the whole point of this game is to have fun. If you're not having fun and instead we're being sticklers to the foundation and rules of the canon series at the sacrifice of fun, then...

Just the unstable ramblings of a Co GM. Don't mind my input into this discussion. :]
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I agree, Harine. That's the very standpoint I usually take. I think my objection here is just that we should decide. Are we going to stick to the four-member teams, or start making five-member teams when there's an IC reason.

Either way, I personally feel we should be consistent.
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Awesomoman's coming back (if the rumblings Kaithas has passed to me are correct), and I think Trad's getting put into another team (as far as I know).



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I'm not saying you should disallow others from the conversation, all I am saying is that filling up the OOC with your opinion on the matter and my opinion and anyone else's, should happen when there is a GM present who can actually make a decision, as it is there's to make.

I'm sure Lug knows what he is doing though as he was the one to allow a five man team and has okay'd a mission for us already. I'm sure he has some kind of plan, or he simply thinks a five man team doesn't rupture the RP. I won't speak for him. But I will say that I appreciate you bringing it up and keeping it civil. If he changes his mind then we can pivot, if not then we'll just go along with how this is going.

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I'm not saying you should disallow others from the conversation, all I am saying is that filling up the OOC with your opinion on the matter and my opinion and anyone else's, should happen when there is a GM present who can actually make a decision, as it is there's to make.


This is absolutely true. And now that it's been brought up, I'm perfectly content to let anyone who wants to chime in do so, and Lugu to maintain or modify his decision as he sees fit.

All I would like to see, honestly, is some consistency with whichever path is taken.
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This is absolutely true. And now that it's been brought up, I'm perfectly content to let anyone who wants to chime in do so, and Lugu to maintain or modify his decision as he sees fit.

All I would like to see, honestly, is some consistency with whichever path is taken.


Completely agree, just didn't want this to turn into one of those: "I'm right, you're right" situations. Remain level headed and try to remember that this, as Harine pointed out, is for fun :)
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This is absolutely true. And now that it's been brought up, I'm perfectly content to let anyone who wants to chime in do so, and Lugu to maintain or modify his decision as he sees fit.

All I would like to see, honestly, is some consistency with whichever path is taken.


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RWBY's one cardinal rule in an entire host of contradictions and loose lore elements is that at academies, all teams have four members. If that's changing, then I don't particularly like it, but whatever. It's the fact that up to this point, every other person who has disappeared from the game, with advanced warning or not, has gotten totally screwed out of their spot and replaced, and the fact that VGNB filled up OOC with "please please please please please" until they got a fifth member doesn't sit well with me. A lot of those guys are my friends, but it's the truth. It doesn't sit right with me.

But if that's changing, officially, then fine. As long as, after this point, people who fall off the map aren't summarily replaced and assumed to be dead, missing, or dropouts wandering the streets of Vale penniless, and are left available to return in the exact same way. If that's not the case, then this decision was made in pretty poor taste, in my opinion.
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I missed all of you too :)

I just want to say I'm sorry for disappearing. My wife lost her job a while back and I had to take up another and well I didn't really have any free time. I should have said something but I kept thinking I'd be able to come back sooner than later.

Luckily shes got one now and everything has retunred to normal. So, with Lugs permission, Trad will be returning to beacon (though probably on another team.)
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I still need to watch John Wick.


Its pretty good. I only just saw it like last week, though he's been my main man in Paydy 2 since I bought it XD
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RWBY's one cardinal rule in an entire host of contradictions and loose lore elements is that at academies, all teams have four members. If that's changing, then I don't particularly like it, but whatever. It's the fact that up to this point, every other person who has disappeared from the game, with advanced warning or not, has gotten totally screwed out of their spot and replaced, and the fact that VGNB filled up OOC with "please please please please please" until they got a fifth member doesn't sit well with me. A lot of those guys are my friends, but it's the truth. It doesn't sit right with me.

But if that's changing, officially, then fine. As long as, after this point, people who fall off the map aren't summarily replaced and assumed to be dead, missing, or dropouts wandering the streets of Vale penniless, and are left available to return in the exact same way. If that's not the case, then this decision was made in pretty poor taste, in my opinion.


I agree with just about everything you said there should be consistency. I will say though, you don't make the old way sound very appealing: people getting screwed out of their spot but that is neither here nor there. However I'll let you know that me and Lugu actually spoke in PM about different ways for me to come back. Originally he asked if I wanted to make a senior character, or have Bianca transfer teams. I told him I'd probably go the senior character route as a five man team wasn't really a possibility. He told me that it was possible, just that the other four needed to be alright with it.

We didn't fill the OOC with please please please. I went to the GM and discussed it.
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Eh Talk to Lugu about it, wasn't my call. I will say this though, in a roleplay, something without stats or crunching numbers really. There isn't much of a difficulty. There is a conversation, relationship between the players and whoever is playing the antagonist. Saying it's easier to cooperate with five people is similar as me saying it's unfair for one semblance to be stronger than another and all that. There's hardly a game to break. Either way, I'm no GM so talk to him about it.


I've actually brought up the issue of different powered semblances but that's a conversation for another day.

I think letting Bianca join rejoin her team after she has already been replaced is a bad idea. This indicates that if someone drops off from a team they are welcome to return to that team no matter who has filled there spot. This is a sign that if you drop off from Heroes of Beacon you are always welcome to return (which as we've seen is not true, we've had people wanting to return but be disallowed). It also means that the teams have no limit.

Team CODE has lost both Aurellius and Marcus. If there RPers return are we expected to make a six man team? Robert's original team lost everyone except him. If all of them wanted back in would we create a seven man team? And as this goes on more people from various teams will drop out, it's a fact of RPing. If all of them return could we not end up with teams that are ten or fifteen strong? When do we draw the line between being able to rejoin your own team and having to join a new one? Those team number limitations are there for a reason, in Team Vs Team combat a five man team would have an advantage so would that mean that every time a 5 man team goes into something like the Vytal festival they have to chose someone not to participate at all?

This is obviously Lug's decision but I think if we start bending the basic rules that RWBY has in its cannon things are going to start falling apart. Not saying Bianca shouldn't return but I think a prolonged absence like that means that they cannot return to there old team.
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Originally he asked if I wanted to make a senior character, or have Bianca transfer teams. I told him I'd probably go the senior character route as a five man team wasn't really a possibility. He told me that it was possible, just that the other four needed to be alright with it.

We didn't fill the OOC with please please please. I went to the GM and discussed it.


While I don't doubt that's what happened in the PM, I literally got on Guild this morning and read through four pages of Gratia/Napoli puns and "Give us Vignoble Brave" rephrased a few different ways. So the team was really, really clamoring for it in a way that made it sound as though it was you guys lobbying Lugu, and not the other way around.

And either way, it's a reversal on the very same decision that allowed me to get into this game in the first place after Trad was dropped from Bastion - a team which was itself nearly dropped entirely based on activity of the players involved.

EDIT: ayyyy seraphs thanks for saying most of what i wanted to say more eloquently and from a co-GM's perspective
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I missed all of you too :)

I just want to say I'm sorry for disappearing. My wife lost her job a while back and I had to take up another and well I didn't really have any free time. I should have said something but I kept thinking I'd be able to come back sooner than later.

Luckily shes got one now and everything has retunred to normal. So, with Lugs permission, Trad will be returning to beacon (though probably on another team.)


Completely understandable, man. Real life happens. Wasn't just you, either, everyone but Nara (myself included) was MIA for a while. Just glad to have you back, even if you won't be able to come back to BASL.
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Its pretty good. I only just saw it like last week, though he's been my main man in Paydy 2 since I bought it XD


I also need to get back into Payday 2. I used to be max rep and infamy. But apparently that has all changed.
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