I feel like we need like an independent native American/sub-saharan African-esque nation.

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My nation will be very industrial and have invented gunpowder plus most modern bombs, but if you mean "independent" in that they have had little interaction with other nations until recently, then I'm your girl

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*raises eyebrow*

Gunpowder and explosives came from all the way over there? The little Kaliabs inventing that stuff made sense in the last RP, but not in this one.

In the history collab I mention that the Industrial Revolution started in the Moravia region (specifically the Kingdom of Qualia) after the fall of the Holy Roman Moravian Empire. Makes sense since that coincided with the hordes of gnomish immigrants and increased human-dwarf interaction. This history is pretty much lit on fire if we say that gunpowder and explosives wouldn't have even reached the Europe-continent until those colonies appeared near KalMea (speaking of which, wouldn't KalMea be the one colonizing the primitive Europeans without any gunpowder?).

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*sigh*
Very well, I give up my point. That makes more sense.

But I shall continue to be super-industrial!

@voltus_ventus

KalMea is the black portion of the map:

But I shall continue to be super-industrial!

That's another part I take issue with, Hael is basically forcing me, Voltus, Willy, and you, to have invaded him in the past. Based on the way our Ceres Sea borders are I just don't see an alternative.

Which is confusing, given if he's even marginally industrialized as he claims with such an immense and in large part fertile land to draw a huge population from, he'd be able to oust everyone on numbers alone.

I mean he could literally have tech from 1900 and still oust all of us zerg rush style, which makes no sense to me whatsoever.

Everybody, calm the hell down, I can move the nation. What about the large blank spot in the lower-left beside Fuso?

@HaelIt's not anything we cant work out, and what blank spot?

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There is nothing empty in that spot. Only the false heathens Izuno Shogunate is in the lower left.

Who can actually back it up? Ceres, the PRK, and that's it I think.

@Serpentine88 Yeah, but it's basically just empty bravado now.

And on another note as much as this new nation confounds me and is prompting a major history revision from every colonial power, here's the new map.

He means besides Zenovia. The color is a bit confusing.