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@MelonHead That's one hell of a straw man you got there, so we'll address this with the same candor that you gave me to me.

First of all, you in fact, factually, misunderstood several facets of my unconvincing argument, that may have been more convincing had you devoted a half a second of actual critical thought to it. When you very clearly stated that 'attacking or moving would count as an interrupt', which isn't in any damn way how that works, but feel free to attack strawmans and retort with half-assed vitriolic, defensive shit your ilk love to do.

This is is generally the exact attitude in met with whenever I challenge the notion that, GOD FOR-FUCKING-BID someone does something in a way you don't agree with.

onto your trivial understanding of how time works, since you clearly don't understand... Again. Moving not in accordance with an enemies plan, again doesn't count as ab interrupt, which I describe as the 'retroactive prevention of someone's action'. Doing something else does not break time. I did not stop your attack from occurring. Replying to an attack without stopping it is not interrupting because the timeline is still juxtoposed or moving forward. No actual time breaking is done, which is what your breed of fighting does.

And I mean yeah, my super unconcvincing arguments that used multiple examples and various simple ways to get across the concept may not be good, but your argument is.... Well shit, you don't have one. You haven't actually attacked anything I've said, just (probably) intentional misconceptions about how my system works.

9/10 I have fought use interrupts to fish for easy wins without actually ever dealing with something, but instead removing it from existence in its entirety, or to avoid an attack they can't, or don't want to deal with.

You can get defensive and called my system flawed, because it is. I never said it wasn't. I actually said it was earlier, but the thing is, so is yours, my boy. Interrupts are a far cry from the best or only system in this internet verse.

But I mean, to each his own, right? To clarify on my sudden aggression, it is in response to your unwarranted disrespect toward I and my opinion, because of what I perceive to be insecurities and defensiveness because I said 'you don't understand', when, contrary to what you believe, you actually, factually, truthfully, did not understand several facets about it, and still dont, considering you continue to build straw men based on your aforementioned wrong preconceived notions of what 'no interrupts.' it wasn't rude, or inflammatory, nor 'bame dropping'. It was honesty, and I was attempting to help you understand.

Have a good day folks. I think this is as good a place as any to take my leave. I honestly don't have time to argue with some insecure elitist over a system that will never effect him because he will never fight me. Like I said, this happens quite a lot lol.
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God your all over the place, no wonder you've taken the easy option and bailed rather than trying to justify any of that nonsense, and you attempt to call me out on semantics.

That's exactly what I would do in a real fight, yes, if I couldn't 'deal with an attack' perhaps because I am a mortal man, rather than a superhuman warrior, I would indeed stop the gunman from aiming and pulling the trigger, rather than trying to bounce back the bullets. It's obvious you are more suited to a very high powered form of fighting that is simplistic in every sense of the word, that's fine, go do it somewhere away from me.

I can't quite comprehend the levels of hypocrisy in a post that simultaneously accuses someone of acting defensively while also announcing their immediate departure because a few people have pointed out an issue with a ruleset, and consequently why they would be unlikely to fight with it.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out, you weren't even willing to make the smallest concessions to the entire websites fashion of character sheet creation and then throw your shit out the pram when people question an illogical ruleset, impressive.

You don't have nearly tough enough skin for this internet deal.
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LOL. Except if you spent half as much time studying reading comprehension as you did the inner sanctums of your own anus, you'd have a clue what you were talking about, and everything j said was justified above, buddy.

And really? You're whining about my style of character, now? I mean I knew you were a cockatrice about my big bad ol' PC, but I seriously thought that wound would have healed by now.

And on the contrary. Please refer to my earlier advice and read above. I expect to be questioned about my rule set, and amiably answered everyone questions until your little tirade of defensiveness and disrespect. Look, bud, I'm an adult. I don't have time to sit here and try to convince some angsty insecure shitstain of shit that I already expounded on, especially when he's going to get offensive about it like a five year old.

Ouch. Whaddya know, the door did hit me on my way out.
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I honestly don't have enough time at the moment to read entirely, just popping in until I get back, but couldn't you just have your character uninteriptedly get to a prime location to cover so they can't shoot you until you get there and complete the action you described?
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@melonhead @gun Woah, gents, no need to get crazy. Gun you have an opinion, Melon you have a different one. Resorting to insults doesn't further dialogue. Clearly Gun there are people willing to fight under your rules. Melon, as Gun said, you need not fight him. There is plenty of room for differing views on text combat.
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I'm assuming that's me you're talking to. Though I'm not fully understanding your question. Care to try and rephrase?
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@Skallagrim I apologize for high tempers, but I deal with this so much its become second nature to return unwarranted aggression. I stated several times I actually use interrupts and various rulesets I've come across. I never attacked anyone for doing something different than I was, I never said that interrupts and those who use them are bad. that's where my aggravation comes from. For the fact I was attacked for not wanting to use interrupts lol.

That said, I'll back off.
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Soooo...... Do I still get to fight someone or what?
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@melonhead If you ever want to test my 'simplicity', then you know where to find me by the way. Just to show im amiable, I'll fight under any rulest you want.

I have various characters across just about every power standard, contrary to your belief, so I can accommodate you without you feeling 'outgunned.'
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@Doc Doctor I'll still fight. You still good with the stipulations posted?
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I think tonight I'll write up some paragraph information on each of the novas, if anyone is interested. Since no one chose to pick one up, I'll try to do one for each.
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@Skallagrim I apologize for high tempers, but I deal with this so much its become second nature to return unwarranted aggression. I stated several times I actually use interrupts and various rulesets I've come across. I never attacked anyone for doing something different than I was, I never said that interrupts and those who use them are bad. that's where my aggravation comes from. For the fact I was attacked for not wanting to use interrupts lol.

That said, I'll back off.


You should probably learn to separate yourself from your argument, its the sign of a huge ego. Unless you care to point out where I posted any personal insults towards you before your insult laden response or acted with 'unwarranted aggression.' I took the time to relay my criticisms of the rule set in response to your numerous assertions that I'd simply misunderstood your masterful system, and then finished with the remark that I had no further interest in debating and you, like everyone, were free to follow whatever rules you want, just not to expect me to fight under them.

You then took the time to write a shitload of sanctimonious bullshit, with insults including 'defensive shit your ilk love to do' (That's my favorite, I love a good generalization.) 'trivial understanding' funny as I made it pretty clear it was a basic understanding, going into the post-structuralist debate around what is time seemed un-useful to me, and the finale 'insecure elitist'.

Don't dish out insults and then cry when a few come back, you should probably go re-read my original post now and pick out all the abundance of insults dropped in your path, so you can maintain your non-existant moral high ground.

Also, I'll obviously be refusing your offer for a fight, even if I were fighting I can't see any enjoyment coming out of facing off against you. Maybe join the next tournament I'm in and you might get lucky, doubt it though.
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I love generalizing as much as you love drawing conclusions that are exactly contrary to what the person just fucking said they weren't.(lol cuz avoiding attacks alters timelines... Even though no actions have been erased or added to the situation).

You were hostile first, genius. Many an implication about me and my style were made, at which point I gave back the bullshit you for some reason thought id want to keep. Speaking of egos, it isn't like you didn't stroke your own e-dick the entire time this little charade transpired (lol cuz powered combat is Su much simpler than unpowered combat).

your understanding of how time works in a combat setting was flawed as all fuck. Because remember, not actually changing or altering the opponents actions before they happen is STILL screwing with timelines... Somehow.... After I specifically said interrupts are the retroactive prevention of an opponents actions, which you entirely ignored in your, yes, 'trivial' understanding of time.

Playing innocent gets you nowhere. You cab act like you weren't intentionally brusque with me for having a differing opinion, but I'm not blind, and am capable of reading. My moral high ground remains perfectly in tact. Because I am the morally right one. See how that works?

I didn't challenge you for enjoyment, but to see if your assumption of me added up, given you made an uneducated assumption about me. But if you don't want to fight on the basis of not enjoying it, which is fair, then cool.

Man, and the best part is how you still refuse to admit you misinterpreted how my system works, after I literally fucking quoted you posting one of the most generic uninformed ideas of what happens in interruptless fighting. Literally. I don't understand how you could even be performing the mental gymnastics you do to keep your ego safe.

Edit: Remember when you said 'attacking or avoiding would count as an interrupt'? Yeah, remember when I said that ISNT HOW IT works? Remember when you ignored what I said about MY rule? Remember how you constantly say 'lel I understand yer rulez' while saying you didn't misunderstand anything? I can't make it any more obvious than this.

So you going to continue to deflect and project, futilely trying to paint me as someone I'm not and trying to put words in my mouth, or are we done here? If were not going to fight, and were not going to agree, then nothing more needs be said.
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@MelonHead You've got this knack for bringing out the worst in people.
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I'm assuming that's me you're talking to. Though I'm not fully understanding your question. Care to try and rephrase?


Now that I am home I can look through your posts to potentially clarify myself, but in case not my question was along the lines of,

"If I can't be interrupted, could my character spot an awesome location for cover across an open field, so in my post I say they dart across the field and reach that location, ducking behind cover."

Your character could attack me or move around themselves, of course, but it seems like they couldn't actually do anything to stop me from reaching the awesome location. Of course I'd have to be a jerk to exploit this and other situations along this concept in every post, but this is what I worry for doing ranked battles with this system.

This system you have reminds me of checkmating in chess from my understanding, where you have to be able to kill them if they stay still or move. I'll explain more once I get a better understanding by reading through the argument.

EDIT #1: Interrupts could get kind of zany with interrupts for interrupts, even, although I haven't personally come across anything further than single interrupts on their own and they have made sense. Guess it depends on personal experience what people see as or has become a problem. Personally I wouldn't mind 100 interrupts in a long chain as long as it made sense and was reasonably executed. There comes to a point where reaction time wouldn't allow it to go any further, though.

EDIT #2: Read everything, and it looks like my concern still stands. Only one attack is allowed, which is good for this system, but I'm not sure about running around to your hearts content. I'm guessing a prep would count as the one attack or else you could obviously charge up a massive beam and then fire it and they couldn't stop you. Some of the problems would, therefore, be solved by way of character powers not being unfair to take advantage of the system, which is a problem for any system.

EDIT: 3: Like checkmate because if I start an action you cannot interrupt me until it's done, so I'd only be killed if I was already going to be killed even doing said action. You cannot suddenly pull out a gun and kill me while I'm doing something so I'd be safe for sure as long as mechanisms for my death are not already in motion.
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@GunYup, but can you make the thread?

@MelonHeadA tournament like the one I proposed? Doesn't have to be just melee or martial arts, could be the whole shebang!
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Just putting this out there for the lolz: Goku uses spirit bomb. No interrupts.
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@takashi Surprise, you are not the only one I've heard use that joke lol.

@importantnobodyinterrupts are not allowed so long as the actions happening happen within a reasonable timeframe. I have a paste bin with all the specifics laid out, but I can't find the link. Essentially, if you are extensively prepping and making it obvious, that's ground for a legal, logical interrupt. So no spirit bombs. Another example is monologuing, long series of attacks(the one attack rule essentially nips this in a bud in most fights, though). I'd say in most cases, interrupting things like that are a no-go, provided you aren't taking extra long or lollygagging while the whole time going ' nah nah nah boo, yew can't interrupt me', and exploiting the system.

I'm curious as to why this worries you. This issue mirrors the issue with standard interrupt rules where someone can easily exploit the interruption rule to do it every post. Its a matter of sportsmanship under either rule set, because both to me are equally exploitable.
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@Doc DoctorYeah. I'll probably have it up tomorrow.
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@MelonHead You've got this knack for bringing out the worst in people.


People are laughably easy to annoy, if I'm in the mood for it.

Gun is particularly easy though, in one page he's announced his departure and then swanned back in with another hate post, who knows where he'll go next. He'll never be able to change the fact he reacted with personal insults towards criticism towards his system though, which essentially broke any credibility he might have had yesterday.

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